Why are women attracted to men who are assholes?

[Pill_Poppa]

^^^^^
Most of the 'nice guys' I know fall into Cat. 4.

I mean you actually have muster up the balls to go up to girls, and start a conversation. That's what the so called 'assholes' are so good at.

Once you're in what could resemble a relationship with a girl, then they can be considered a cat 1, or cat 2(in which case they will surely get dumped).

P_P

 

[Petersko]

Petersko - that's all right on, but I have to point out that you can use all sorts of psychology in the short term, I do it all the time, and it works. But to consistently date very attractive women long-term, you need to be close to their attractiveness level, or be damn funny, intriguing, interesting, something.

Of course. Just remember that one doesn't have to be all that attractive to date attractive women.

Frankly, every woman I've ever dated has been "out of my league", or so it would seem from an ousiders point of view. And yet - I've never, ever been dumped.

Mind you I started dating late in life...

You've got it right. Be funny. Be interesting. Be different. But don't sweat it if you're not a tall, perfectly-formed strapping buck of a studmuffin. It isn't required.

Neither is assholery.

Also, understanding women isn't some kind of psychological "trick". It's not unfair. It's the right course of action.

 

[Raas]

I will not let this thread die... it's become sentimental with me now.

here is the truth -

A Woman likes : A degree of confidence and assertiveness, commony associated with acting deviant or unfair. Yet, most woman would be put off from excessive behaviour, perhaps psychotic. Character and charsima also play a crucial role in this attractiveness. They hate any lameness or patheticness, respect someone with some sort of self dignaty. More advanced complexes within a womans mind, can stem from some sort of "opposite attractiveness", where a man plays on what she wouldnt expect. Flirting with her friends can also intrigue, or draw her attention in.


A Man Likes : Nice face and a pair of tits



Oh and no-one quote me on the above because it isn't that serious .. and by the way, pete, i loved ur phrase of "tall, perfectly-formed strapping buck of a studmuffin" lmao

 

[hashish2020]

I was a nice guy. Found my girl. Fell in love. We broke up (distance problems) I got hurt. Haven't cared since. I can't really love, but the ass is so much easier in coming like this. Throw in I AM a nice guy at heart, and that when someone gets me to open up they might find it, it's all good (I hope). Lastly, looks mean NOTHING for a guy. Watch a rap video. They are caracatures, true, but they are accurate. Fling money and nice things around (or in my base, make it LOOK like you are) act postive and self-satisfied, and they flock. I swear, before I was like this I looked a LOT better (muscular, trim, athletic..) than I do now after my injury (not BAD, sorta flabby, still some muscle) and now I get more. It's wierd, but sorta nice. Now when I get back in shape and have my attitude....hell yea

 

[The Word]

muffins

"But don't sweat it if you're not a tall, perfectly-formed strapping buck of a studmuffin. It isn't required."

I'm leaving my precious 69th post behind for this, so it's not a post I make lightly. Almost NOTHING in life is REQUIRED, but if I had all the same characteristics that I have now but were also a tall, perfectly-formed, strapping buck of a studmuffin (great phrase! hereafter "muffin") I guarantee more girls would FALL for me. It's not a question of possibility but a question of effort...

It's true you that when you have to work hard for something you appreciate it more yatta yatta but I'm not looking for an ego boost or thrill of the chase. (all the time, anyway) I don't want the satisfaction of "scoring" an intelligent, attractive girl, I just want the girl.

Understanding women is great, but if I'm acting differently from how I normally would to impress a woman, regardless of how successful I am it's not the right course of action - I'm still in the territory of trying to attain the girl rather than relate with her.

I guess I just mean you have to "have the goods" in some capacity for it to work long term. Goods can be looks, intelligence, passion, mystery - preferably all of the above. I've got dozens of psychological truths that can be used to manipulate people, but that doesn't satisfy me. As a muffin, I could just be myself all the time, hell even be a mess most of the time and would probably still be liked by most attractive women instantly. You get that whole "sticker on the flowers" effect going for ya.

If you have no life but pretend you do to get a girl, eventually the bottom falls out. There aren't any real shortcuts, so go to the gym, become interested in something, whatever it takes. Now if only I practiced what I preached. Yes I guess I'm on the bandwagon to never let this thread die!!!

 

[discobunny]

I understand the reason for dumping 2 and 3, but what about 1?

sorry i wasnt really clear - my point there was that he was smothering...

I am all for being made feel like a goddess (bring it on!!!) but a girl likes to have her freedom and a little independance. Finding a balance in a relationship is difficult to begin with. I think the basis of a relationship is respect and honesty - from there you can do anything. ( oh and it helps if your partner is as sexy as hell). What I and my friends have found is that some guys are over protective, jelouse, insecure. This makes it difficult to develop anything when you feel you are constantly under suspicion for whatever reason...

Most of you guys on here sound great!! and im sure it wont be long until a beautiful person comes your way, remember good things come to those who wait...

8)

 

[dopy_dave]

Yeah, FUCK being a nice guy. For all of the 'hippy' type shit that chicks say, like "I wanna sensitive guy", etc. they sure don't back it up with their behavior. So i encourage every (hetero) guy out there to treat women like shit and don't consider them in your thoughts, b/c they sure as hell don't care about you. Fuck 'em.

 

[Yesterday]

for what its worth....


I'm in love with the NICEST GUY EVER

And hes sexy as hell

 

[hashish2020]

Yeah, FUCK being a nice guy. For all of the 'hippy' type shit that chicks say, like "I wanna sensitive guy", etc. they sure don't back it up with their behavior. So i encourage every (hetero) guy out there to treat women like shit and don't consider them in your thoughts, b/c they sure as hell don't care about you. Fuck 'em.

Fuckin werd man

 

[Petersko]

dopey_dave and hashish2020: I love it when guys like you deliberately remove yourself from the dating pool. More women for me.

 

[hashish2020]

dopey_dave and hashish2020: I love it when guys like you deliberately remove yourself from the dating pool. More women for me.

It's even funner when they cheat on you with us

PLAYINN

 

[Raas]

Bump

How could you all just sit there and let this thread die... i bite my thumb at you all.

 

[Merlin744]

really nice thread guys..... I'm headin off to a big university next year, and after age 1-19 of "nice guy-ness", I have most definitely made a few improvements/changes in my lifestyle/appearance, hopefully enough to bring about a ton of reckless wild sex with girls of all kinds. %)

 

[psychoblast]

Hashish owns this thread. My experiences mirror his. I've had an easier time getting women being a cocky, soft-bodied jerk than when I was a sweet, naive hardbody.

I have a theory on this: Guys want a woman mostly for sex. Women want a guy mostly for entertainment. See, guys don't look to their girlfriends to entertain them. We look to buddies, movies, tv, computer games, etc. for that. Girls want the guy who is going to take them hiking or biking, who is going to do something interesting at any moment that keeps their life interesting (because they won't rely on cool techno gadgets to keep things interesting like guys). The guy who is nice, is also predictable and, thus, uninteresting. I mean, shit, put girls around a table with 5 guys and have 4 nice guys and one guy who belches super loud and the laughs it off, the women will go for that one guy. Because he will keep them on their toes. Bring an X factor into their life.

Anyway, as long as women want to be "entertained" by their mate, they will keep going for guys with money, connections, and attitude and will actually prefer rudeness over docility. Once a girl learns to find her own entertainment, she can find happiness with a nice guy.

When you think about it, guys get ripped off in dating. Guys often give the girl what she most wants from him (being taken out, entertainment) and then only MAYBE does he get what he most wants from her (sex). Even if she had a good time, she still might say no to sex. That's not fair. There should be a written guarantee, "If you keep me entertained for at least 2 hours, I wll have sex with you. If you keep me entertained for over 1 hour but less than 2 hours, I will give you head. Less than one hour and you are on your own."

~psychoblast~

 

[MindBodyStregnth]

I know I saw the word "sensative" again!Go right ahead and be sensative.that reminds me of one of those dating disasters from Bedazzled.


Nice?sensative?ok whatever.no.Assertive,decisive.good job,well dressed,decent career etc.some intelligence and passion.No over the top tyranny or stupidity.too much rage or total lack of balls.

A little feeling/thinking but to indesision or outright jealousy.Don't walk on her but be firm.show passion but not worship.You can still care but you're a worthy person too.A constant unpredictable challenge. She chases you.not the other way around.

Be sexy,don't be nice.Listen when she speak.don't emphasize or symphasize."nice" guys do that.Comment and continue.As for dating dinner and movies?too cliche.roses?aren't you original?can't you do better then the last 15 jarheads to go out with her.

She wants to do something but sometimes you're unavailable for whatever reason.Think,listen,focus,beleive and be confident in yourself.

Now stop whining and get out there and DO something about it all.Even if it's wrong.

M.B.S.

 

[psychoblast]

Oh, the above post reminded me: NO FLOWERS!! They are the deathknell for romantic opportunity. Maybe because it makes it look like you are trying to hard and girls want a challenge. But every time I can think of that I have brought flowers to a girl, she has not warmed up and it was our last date. DO NOT BRING FLOWERS!! Oh, it also helps not to be on time. Girls don't like guys who are too anal, and if you are late it also gives you something to apologize for (which girls like) and it makes her wonder whether you are actually coming during the time between the date time and your arrival time. In pondering that question, the girl thinks, "Gee, I hope he comes" and gains a new realization that she wants to be with you.

~psychoblast~

 

[Raas]

I've thought about this long and hard.

I used to be pissed off thinking "why do girls go for bastards and not nice guys", but now i know it's right, and if you understand sex; you'll know it too.

Having casual sex with a stunning girl is one of the best things ever, and unlike crack cocaine it doesn't fuck your body and mind up.

To have this pleasure, you must earn it. No, not by sucking up, worshipping and giving out flowers....it would all just be too easy that way.... anyone can be nice if they have too. The finest woman go to those who have honed their personalities into confident, slightly arrogant men who take no shit and can see past sucking up...and treat woman no better than anyone else.

Nothing pisses me off more than seeing lame guys going out of their way, being extra nice and buying gifts to get a girls affection....

[edit] haha i was pissed when i wrote most of that.. oh man

 

[junglboy]

Plain and simple....Girls Really Dig Assholes...And that really pisses me off too. I too am a nice guy and when I see a girl being dogged...OH MY GOD...I want to blow up...First at the prick she is with then at her for being so nieve...Then Make It Up to her by an all night fuck a thon.......SEE YA AROUND LIKE A DOUGHNUT....

 

[THeRaVeToY]

i'll admit, in the beginning, girls want the asshole, the bad boy, the smartass loudmouth...

it's because we think we can tame them, change them, show the world how vulnerable and sensative they are.


but boys, we learn! i swear we do, it just always seems like the girl you want is the last to figure it out... (true) assholes don't have the sensative, sweet, downtrodden aspect, no matter how deep the girl tries to dig. and once the girl has gone thru a few assholes and figured out that there's nothing good to unearth, she quickly tires of the frat-boy personality (gross generalization, i know, there are some sweet frat boys out there. somewhere.)

at any rate, the worldwide female population is larger than the male population, so guys have a better chance of finding someone than girls do.

 

[DJ_Kaotik]

I will admit. There is something about the "bad boy, rebellious type" that I find very appealing. I guess it has to do with wanting to "tame the beast" or having this feeling of being the one that this "bad boy" has a soft spot for. It just makes you feel a little more special than being with the "nice guy".

But, I also know that a relationship like that wouldn't last....at least not for me. I have dated some assholes before....let's just say I've learned my lesson. In the beginning it's exciting but that feeling fades VERY quickly.

Right now I am with one of the nicest guys I have ever known. He's never mean to me, never says anything disrespectful. He even helps me clean the house and sometimes he cooks for me. He is wonderful. And I love him so much.....and now we're engaged and I can see this lasting for a long time.

Nice guys out there....don't worry. All girls grow up.....and realize that being with the "bad guy" isn't what it's cracked up to be.