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Why are women attracted to men who are assholes?

I don't think that nice guys finish last. I think that the "nice guys" are the ones that end up with the "nice girls". They end up with the girls that aren't all (for lack of a better term) used up. The girls that are caring and have something more than just T 'n A to offer. The "quality" girls, if you will. (or maybe I'm just trying to convince myself of that).
-Aaron
 
I think part of the problem is looking in the wrong places, as some others have hinted. In some places, a "nice guy" is not likely to find anybody, like at a bar or dance club. You need some "quality control": a location or event which selectively screens out certain people. If you're a poet, go to a coffee house, not a club. If you're an "egg head", go to a meeting of fellow geniuses, not some dionysian house party.
 
I like nice guys with some level of confidence--I don't like guys that are pissy or mean towards me and I won't put up with it for very long. However I also have no patience for guys that always give the whole "nobody ever likes me because i'm a nice guy and girls don't want that" because chances are that there is something else that they aren't liking besides the fact you're "nice".
Nice does not mean:
spineless
weak
lack of confidence
non-argumentative
positionless
condescending
patronizing
etc, etc, etc
 
Hey whats up, just thought I would share my opinions on this subject. I dont see any difference between nice guy and asshole, if I find a girl attractive and I want her I will pursue her or make a move you know, and I have never been turned down or rejected. Its hard to be to like have a flint/fuck with someone who I dont respect as a person, only because like I just end up using them, or maybe it was mutual I dont know. Anyway, what I am trying to say is, I dont think like the whole nice guy asshole thing exists, because what are you being really nice to this girl because you like her/fancy her and want to date/get into her pants? I dont understand here, cause yeah girls do like it when you treat them like crap, I have the same problem with a girl or two, just end up getting used or whatever, it works both ways completely.
Anyway be confident, and make a move when you want to, instead of like thinking of what would, I think thats the main problem "nice" guys suffer from. They are too nervous to make the first move.
 
EVERYONE knows the saying that nice guys finish last, right? ever stopped to think that most people will consider themselves the "nice" one, and the guy (or girl) who's getting more play than them the "asshole"?
granted, a few people will admit they're the bitch/asshole, but most people prefer to think of themselves as the poor, downtrodden "nice" one.
unless we can all walk around with a score from a magic test that determines how nice we are, you (to sound like my mother, GAH!) have to kiss a LOT of frogs to find your prince.
 
i hate being the "nice guy" who could be "a potential friend"...
girls can be patronizing to nice guys, and even when they aren't it seems nice guys are either not taken seriously, or taken as if they're too serious and can't just enjoy a date.
nevermind i hate whinning
 
I went out with this guy for like 3 years and he was nice towards the end of the relationship. It irritated me that he was so nice, like he tried to make me happy ALL the time. I ended up breaking up with him for one of my guy friends. The fact that a guy would drop everything for me and do whatever I wanted him to do...turned me off! really it is an individual bases...and I'm just one girl :)
 
i have some advice for you nice guys out there coming from the source itself:
most single women aren't waiting for a nice guy to come along -- we're waiting for sparks to fly. No sparks and we keep on looking
while 'nice' is definitely a quality we appreciate, it's not one that makes our palms sweat or our hearts beat faster, or leaves us wanting more afer evey date
Afer all, on the first date a nice guy won't tell a woman she looks incredibly sexy even if he's thinking it: he won't make fun of the froufrou way she holds her cocktail glass; and he definitely won't put ihis hands on that sweet spot just above her waist when he kidsses her goodnight.
if you want sparks, yhou have to make friction -- and that means taking risks. Next time you feel you're coming across as merely benign, confess an unpopular opinion, tease her a little, give in to an urge to do something unexpected -- and when you kiss her, do it like you don't give a damn whether she thinks you're nice.
good luck, i'm in the battle with you
-lifeischemistry
 
Often people mistake "assholeness" for confidence. Confidence is a powerful aphrodisiac, and bad-boys are probably a minor rebellion. Most people grow out of it eventually, when they've been with enough bad-boys who are truly assholes, and have had their heart (and limbs) stomped on liberally a few times.

I just hope that you are able to find someone that you can love for who they are, and who treats you with respect. That's really about all anyone can ask for. =-)
 
Re: Do nice guys (and girls) always finish last?

mariposa420 said:
I have noticed, without a single exception, that I always seem to be attracted to either the "bad boy" type or someone who is pretty much off limits (i.e. lives in another country).

Doncha just looooove those "untouchables?" (hint: gay guys are off limits for us girls... :/)

*****

I feel you 100%. no, 100000000%. I have been asked MANY MANY times by MANY MANY people: "Why do you always end up with the assholes?" the answer i am STILL unclear of. recently, though, i have just found myself to shy away at any chance of a starting relationship- in fear of this guy being an ass. I'd like to tell you that "guys just aren't worth it" but- we all know they are ;)

I've come to the conclusion that guys under the age of 24 are normally ALL assholes, regardless. By 24, they have normally had a taste of the real world and are ready for a woman to take care of them... and in turn, they turn nice and sweet and charming and might even take you out in return for doing their laundry, cleaning their house, ironing their work clothes, and packing thier lunches.

good luck!
 
the trick is to act like an asshole till you have them woo'ed then let them think they changed you into being a nice guy.

gotta work the reverse mind game on them.

it worked i'm gettin married in may

Jj
 
Let me tell you guys once and for all that, being nice gets you nowhere. Been there , done that. Whenever I treat them nicely, they end up asking 'Why are you being so nice'. It's as if they expect you to grope them, and to want to have sex with them that night, or else you have some kind of a hidden agenda. So here are some points in helping those who need it :

1. Make sure you have a mobile phone with plenty of empty mem spots for all the numbers that you will be storing on it. The mobile 'sim card' is the equivelent of the last generation's 'black book', and must be guarded with your life.

2. Act like an arrogant asshole (Even if you are not one). This is the hardest thing, when you are first starting off. However soon you wil see the benefits of it, and will forever say to yourself, 'Why have I not always acted this way??'. :)

3. Always ask for their phone numbers, and I mean always. They almost always say 'I don't usually give out my number, but you seem different', meaning that your arrogance has attracted them.

4. Never actually call them, before they call you, which they will unless you have come across a female 'Player'. However don't worry though, as they can also be much fun to play with.

5. You may send them an SMS first, only if it contains a flirtatious message.

6. Flirt with other girls around them, showing how confident you are, and that they don't mean squat to you. They may act like they are hurt at first, but that just seems to disappear quickly as they try to make themselves more attractive to you.

7. Never buy them anything of value the first few times you see them. Buying them anything of value could signal to them that you're nice, and is therefore counter productive.

8. No lovie, dovie gestures. It has to be dirty, or again it will show you off as being 'nice', and therefore you will be put into the category of men with which they will not want to have sex with.

9. Write them SMS messages offering SEX(This works a treat everytime).

10. Never give a shit what their friends think of you. It's not them you're wanting to have sex with. They can all be 'fair game' later, if they are good enough looking.

11. When at pubs/clubs you MUST strike early in the night. By that I mean usually before 12am, when the girls have just started to arrive and are still checking out their potential prey(you).

12. If you have the means, a nice car will also do wonders for you sex life. There have been numerous occasions where I have gone to get into my car(Lotus Elise/ Nissan 200SX) which was parked at a McDonalds near a popular club, and girls have been very eager to make conversation, then then ask for a ride home.

13. Always have your business card handy with your phone number on it. You don't always have to give it out, but it's good to have some handy.

14. Always remember that their friends are also 'fair game', and that the person you're actually seeing now can be just a stepping stone.

15. It's not a bad thing to go out with a few friends who you may consider wimps, when it comes to wemen(as long as they too are good looking. you want the girls to actually want to look towards your direction). That way you can stand out in the group, and are almost always successful. You friends will just look at the girls, while you're the only one showing guts, and actually approaching them. This works a treat every time.

16. Last but not least, you must have the guts to actually walk over to them and start the conversation. Don't worry about how they may portray themselves(such as being snobs), All those aspects of their personality will come crashing down quicker than the Iraqi army's defences.

Thats's all that comes to mind for the moment.

Happy hunting.

P_P
 
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FuckBunny, they're everywhere, you just got to know where to look :D.

I'm a nice guy (I think?) with a fair bit a of confidence, and I've never had any trouble pulling chicks before. You just have to know what groups of chicks would be the snobby kind (mostly the chicks that like the assholes) and the group of chicks which are nicer. I like the nice chicks, they aren't fake and they don't tend to PILE on the make up anywhere near as much as the snobby chicks.

It's matter of opinion anyway, and I'll stick to my nice chicks, I like the innocent factor, which is generally lacking in the snobby chicks department.
 
I think you just have to just find the right mix of nice guy and assertiveness. I mean I hate guys who always call like 4 times a day and open doors and hold hands and always pay for things Im not poor or weak I can do these things for myself. But then again I hate guys who dont ask which movie I want to see or what I want to do. I feel that relationships should be equal both guy and girl discussing things then coming to an agreement. I hate bossy guys but I hate Pussys to

Maybe Im just complicated;)
 
nice guys don't always finish last. my friend john is about the nicest guy in the world: he's open, honest, always tries to include everybody, and is willing to do a lot for most people. but he's also very confident, very funny, and has movie-star good looks. he has no problem getting, or keeping, women. im just guessing here, but i bet a lot of the "nice guys" are probably not as confident as they need to be.
 
The world is against me!

If your personality/behaviour/appearance isn't getting you laid, sitting around grousing about how the whole world is slanted away from you is pointless. Do something about it.

Be Dynamic

Lots of "nice guys" get play because they also happen to be dynamic, interesting people.

You don't have to become an asshole. Educate yourself. Broaden your horizons. Learn to dance. And appear confident at all times.

Why you're in the friend zone

Most people who land in the friend zone put themselves there by acting like a friend at the first meeting. When you meet a girl that you find attractive, immediately treat her as a GIRL and not as gender neutral.

If you offer a smile, a genuine compliment, and make good eye contact when you meet a girl, you will not be in the zone.

Quit complaining

Quit complaining.
 
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