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Where the hell did ketamine go?

chrisinabox

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I love doing ketamine but in the past months, it's like literally disappeared everywhere, in the U.S. at least. Nobody can seem to get it or anything. I know MXE and these analogs people are switching too but I like the good 'ol fashioned ketamine. Does anyone know why it in a sense disappared, become so hard to find, and if it will come back? I hope this doesn't turn into like methqualone(Quaaludes) for example, which became literally non-existent once made illegal.
 
Into a hole?
(it maybe a nosehole)

but FWIW it's hard to get access to it in The Netherlands as well though I am fortunate to have found it, actually pure product fit for converting to liquid K.
 
It has been much less available lately..

Dont know how much this has to do w it, but i just watched a special on ketamine and they talked about how authorities in India are going out of their way to slow down production and cooperate w other countries govts to throw a major wrench in organized crime associated w its production and distribution. india is iirc the main source of the majority of ket that has been making it to us since its flow from mexico in vials slowed down yrs ago.

There were apparantly a few huge** seizures in canada recently too; hundreds and hundreds of kilos. apparantly ketamine is considered a big problem in toronto so they are cracking down on it hard and is even harder to find there; although it was once a place to go where one could find it very easily. im sure there are other factors but these few things explain alot. i just hope the prices dont go back up to what they were a decade or so ago :(
 
Same in the UK.. I know a large group of free party heads that do it far to much and some of them seem to still be able to get hold of dribs and drabs but I think they are going well out of their way to do so. I also love K but not to the point I will go on mad hunts for it. I have just ordered some Methoxetamine instead and hoping it will be a good alternative :-)
 
Over here (netherlands) it is been avaiable again for months; we had a drought in the late summer; starting probably somewhere in june which is when some bigger sources started running out, I was lucky to have a smaller scale source that lasted until early september but at that point it was gone everywhere, I was at free parties where normally ketamine is véry prominent and everyone was like 'it's gone country-wide, there's no ketamine anywhere'.

That lasted till around half oktober although I found another small scale source again by the end of september (which is still available as of now, still the same stuff too, I'd not be supprised if it's from a local source, for example pharmaceutical ketamine ment for animals etc.) meaning that for me the drought didn't last longer then two weeks but for plenty of people it was a period of months. Since half oktober it's been back again pretty much everywhere, especially in scenes that are typically heavy-in-ketamine it's really everywhere again; the only difference now from before the drought is that the prices have gone up a little bit and where as before it were large crystals now it's rather powdery, doens't matter what source or what enantiomer (S, racemic etc.), it's all powdery stuff while before all of it was large crystals. I'm not sure what is up with that, seems to be the caze all over europe too.

What I find odd though is that the drought in the Netherlands has been fixed since oktober and getting better too (prices dropping a little bit, more and more people having some again); it's still so bad over in the UK? The only two things that I can think of is that it would be more difficult to import over there being an island and all or that MXE never got big here OR that I'm just in exactely the right scenes and that the people complaining about it being gone are not?

There's a huge discussion about this phenomenon in the european subforum by the way, mostly people from the UK posting there. I also saw topics about this in this subforum before and mostly these topics were closed and people redirected to that topic in the european subforum. Either way since the drought was solved in the Netherlands I'm pretty sure it will get solved in other european countries too, probably not instantly but there is ketamine comming in and as long as there is some comming in there is still people producing it and importing it and it's only a matter of time before it goes back to normal I think. There has been an MDMA-drought in the past here that also lasted only a short period of time and got fixed completely so I think the same will happen with the ketamine thing.
 
Same in the UK.. I know a large group of free party heads that do it far to much and some of them seem to still be able to get hold of dribs and drabs but I think they are going well out of their way to do so. I also love K but not to the point I will go on mad hunts for it. I have just ordered some Methoxetamine instead and hoping it will be a good alternative :-)

Yeah that's what it's like round here. I know people that are well connected and love their ket, and it's coming through a few ounces at a time, but that's about it. Could imagine this definitely not being the case where there isn't a massive K scene, like there is in most major UK clubbing cities.

There are rumours about an Indian prince dying or injuring himself off the stuff or something, and Indian authorities clamping down massively.

Either way, it's to do with the Indian authorities.
 
I have been looking hard enough. Wow, KETASET brand vials? I haven't seen those available in forever. Anyways, barely anyone I know, other than online people, know what the fuck ketamine is, let alone where to get it. It sucks... :(
 
Yeah that's what it's like round here. I know people that are well connected and love their ket, and it's coming through a few ounces at a time, but that's about it. Could imagine this definitely not being the case where there isn't a massive K scene, like there is in most major UK clubbing cities.

There are rumours about an Indian prince dying or injuring himself off the stuff or something, and Indian authorities clamping down massively.

Either way, it's to do with the Indian authorities.

If thats the case it makes perfect sense. I'm sure the majority of it did come from India in the past.
 
in the UK as people have been saying there has been a huge drought since the summer. Although i think things are beginning to pick up slowly but surely. I obtained some for the first time in a very long time about 2 weeks ago but it was cut with msg (i think). was extremely painful to sniff but the ket that was in there was good quality.

my guess is that it took longer for the drought to take effect on the US so thats maybe why you are only noticing now. Dont worry though, if there is a demand, there will most likely be a supply!
 
This falls under availability discussion - although it's been allowed since it's worth discussing why it disappeared. As people have said, India has been really cracking down, and since then people have been resorting to getting their supply from China, where it is illegal and penalties for manufacturing and trafficking it are extremely serious. Now that Methoxetamine is around, and people are enjoying it just as much/more, it's cheaper, and legal.. They have no real reason to risk producing Ketamine and the Chinese producers have switched over to MXE.

I think most of any remaining Ketamine going around will be sneaky vets and doctors stealing vials here and there and cooking up a few grams. I think mass illicit production is slowing down to a halt.

This thread may be moved to NADD in the near future as I don't think there's much more that can be said on the subject and this does fall under availability discussion, but I'll leave it here for now. :)
 
I searched high and low to try and find some for my birthday, but found nothing. Could have gotten some methoxetamine, but I was being drug tested at the time and I've heard of it causing false- positives. Still, it seems that the ket was all around my area in the past, then just sort of vanished...
 
I searched high and low to try and find some for my birthday, but found nothing. Could have gotten some methoxetamine, but I was being drug tested at the time and I've heard of it causing false- positives. Still, it seems that the ket was all around my area in the past, then just sort of vanished...

Just FYI Ketamine causes the same false-positives for PCP on some drug tests.
 
I've never really been into the K scene but at a certain music festival last summer, there was way too much k compared to demand. I mean literally it seemed like half of the dealers there had K. I became acquainted with one and sampled it and it was very strong compared to what I had gotten through the smallest time dealer (literally) ever back in my home town.

Though I've only done K a handful of times.

MXE on the other hand...well, there are various reasons for me having numerous experiences though its been a month since I've taken it...but the major reasons are that its legal, relatively cheap, and easily accessible.
 
MXE on the other hand...well, there are various reasons for me having numerous experiences though its been a month since I've taken it...but the major reasons are that its legal, relatively cheap, and easily accessible.
I don't think saying its legal is correct... but its not illegal

I get it for the same reasons. I hear that K is better, so now I need to find k! :|
 
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