It has been recently now that I've been cutting back so much. But I was honestly buzzing pretty good just off of that, not totally nodding but I was particularly sedated and feeling good and I'm just now being able to focus a little bit more. It was pretty difficult to read when I was trying to.
Currently I'm taking 4mg bupe every 2 days, and using kratom pretty sparingly, maybe 4-16 gs a day.
Completely off-topic but I'm quite interested in more information regarding this combination. I take 1.5-2mg Bupe per day myself. I was under the impression that Kratom would have little to no effect with said tolerance levels? I'll admit it's been quite some time since I've tried Kratom but assumed I would run into issues combining it with Bupe. I also assumed it wouldn't have any effect. Perhaps it's the timing but I would have thought that with a tolerance of 4mg of Bupe that Kratom wouldn't be able to touch you?
IIRC a decent dose of Kratom (8-16gs) hit somewhat like 20-40mg of Oxycodone which is significantly less than the 150mg Morphine equivalent of Bupe I'm on. (Basing the 150mg off Belbuca literature equating 1800mcg to 150mg Morphine (Belbuca = Bupe). Anyways enough random numbers (especially since they might be way off as I'm going off memory & I'm half awake & didn't bother to double check them). Anyways I'm just curious if you're willing to share more information regarding your usage & how it's working out if you don't mind me asking.
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I don't have any numbers or studies, all I have is my anecdotal evidence. But kratom works on many different receptors beyond just the MOR, so those effects wouldn't be hindered by Bupe use. All I know, going through this sub taper now, I'd be feeling a lot shittier without kratom, and it does help me out. But bearing in mind, I've been a daily user of kratom for 6 years, so I am pretty much just as habituated to kratom as I am anything else.
I've only been on bupe since June, so it certainly could be different for people with different experience. I also went a month without kratom while i was in rehab in June. So my circumstances I'm sure are different than many.
Today is the first day in my sub taper that I've started to really feel the w/d though, and the kratom hasn't been as useful as normal. All I know, is the other day when I took my sub dosage, and my kratom dosage at the same time, I was more pleasantly opiated than I have been in quite a long time.
2mg of pharma clonazepam
Yeah, those bottled Roche clonazepam that gypsies sell are propably some unknown rc + lil bit of real clonazepam. As far as I know atleast.As opposed to pressed clonazepam? Genuinely asking is that a thing people are doing now?
Anyway for me 10mg dex and 1mg clonazepam. That's just my cup of coffee.
Yeah, Im waiting for a call. About to score some bupre and maybe oxazepam later.Nothing till now.
oxazepam is a fucking rookie benzo you have to eat bottle to feel anything.Yeah, Im waiting for a call. About to score some bupre and maybe oxazepam later.