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What Was YOUR Morning Fix? v. Special K and Weedies

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I'm nicely high, but still relatively clear headed, can't complain.

150mg Tramadol hcl
1st small joint of some decent weed I got today
Coffee
Cigs
 
It has been recently now that I've been cutting back so much. But I was honestly buzzing pretty good just off of that, not totally nodding but I was particularly sedated and feeling good and I'm just now being able to focus a little bit more. It was pretty difficult to read when I was trying to.

Currently I'm taking 4mg bupe every 2 days, and using kratom pretty sparingly, maybe 4-16 gs a day.

Completely off-topic but I'm quite interested in more information regarding this combination. I take 1.5-2mg Bupe per day myself. I was under the impression that Kratom would have little to no effect with said tolerance levels? I'll admit it's been quite some time since I've tried Kratom but assumed I would run into issues combining it with Bupe. I also assumed it wouldn't have any effect. Perhaps it's the timing but I would have thought that with a tolerance of 4mg of Bupe that Kratom wouldn't be able to touch you? :unsure:

IIRC a decent dose of Kratom (8-16gs) hit somewhat like 20-40mg of Oxycodone which is significantly less than the 150mg Morphine equivalent of Bupe I'm on. (Basing the 150mg off Belbuca literature equating 1800mcg to 150mg Morphine (Belbuca = Bupe). Anyways enough random numbers (especially since they might be way off as I'm going off memory & I'm half awake & didn't bother to double check them =D). Anyways I'm just curious if you're willing to share more information regarding your usage & how it's working out if you don't mind me asking. :)
 
Completely off-topic but I'm quite interested in more information regarding this combination. I take 1.5-2mg Bupe per day myself. I was under the impression that Kratom would have little to no effect with said tolerance levels? I'll admit it's been quite some time since I've tried Kratom but assumed I would run into issues combining it with Bupe. I also assumed it wouldn't have any effect. Perhaps it's the timing but I would have thought that with a tolerance of 4mg of Bupe that Kratom wouldn't be able to touch you? :unsure:

IIRC a decent dose of Kratom (8-16gs) hit somewhat like 20-40mg of Oxycodone which is significantly less than the 150mg Morphine equivalent of Bupe I'm on. (Basing the 150mg off Belbuca literature equating 1800mcg to 150mg Morphine (Belbuca = Bupe). Anyways enough random numbers (especially since they might be way off as I'm going off memory & I'm half awake & didn't bother to double check them =D). Anyways I'm just curious if you're willing to share more information regarding your usage & how it's working out if you don't mind me asking. :)

I don't have any numbers or studies, all I have is my anecdotal evidence. But kratom works on many different receptors beyond just the MOR, so those effects wouldn't be hindered by Bupe use. All I know, going through this sub taper now, I'd be feeling a lot shittier without kratom, and it does help me out. But bearing in mind, I've been a daily user of kratom for 6 years, so I am pretty much just as habituated to kratom as I am anything else.

I've only been on bupe since June, so it certainly could be different for people with different experience. I also went a month without kratom while i was in rehab in June. So my circumstances I'm sure are different than many.

Today is the first day in my sub taper that I've started to really feel the w/d though, and the kratom hasn't been as useful as normal. All I know, is the other day when I took my sub dosage, and my kratom dosage at the same time, I was more pleasantly opiated than I have been in quite a long time.
 
I don't have any numbers or studies, all I have is my anecdotal evidence. But kratom works on many different receptors beyond just the MOR, so those effects wouldn't be hindered by Bupe use. All I know, going through this sub taper now, I'd be feeling a lot shittier without kratom, and it does help me out. But bearing in mind, I've been a daily user of kratom for 6 years, so I am pretty much just as habituated to kratom as I am anything else.

I've only been on bupe since June, so it certainly could be different for people with different experience. I also went a month without kratom while i was in rehab in June. So my circumstances I'm sure are different than many.

Today is the first day in my sub taper that I've started to really feel the w/d though, and the kratom hasn't been as useful as normal. All I know, is the other day when I took my sub dosage, and my kratom dosage at the same time, I was more pleasantly opiated than I have been in quite a long time.

Thanks for the detailed response! Information even if anecdotal is none the less useful. I myself use Bupe for pain / maintenance & mostly was curious as to whether or not I could occasionally use Kratom & gain benefits from it. Perhaps I'll give it a try one of these days. :unsure: Either way I appreciate the response. :)
 
60mgs dxm
600mg magnesium
1000mg gaba(the supplement not the drug)
1000mg taurine
50mg vit b6
500mg holy basil extract
300mg relora
400mg l theanine
120mg methadone
Weed,dabs,cig n coffee
 
Have been avoiding the suboxone/kratom/opi monster for quite some time. I'm only able to minorly dissociate _______bumps______ of 3-meo-pcp
but im still tweakin

Watched The Wall this morning and dosed 1.2mg 25b-nboh; it was nice to watch through a new lens but definitely think the ole band needs some new material
 
I might've accidentally ingested 200mg of DPT before realizing i have been newly modded in DC. Go easy on me this one night at least please :(
 
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