indigoaura
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What do ya'll think of posting this somewhere as a PDF? What could I add to make it more encompassing?
Please read this first, before posting to the thread “What is Wrong with the MDMA Available Today?”
Please read this first, before posting to the thread “What is Wrong with the MDMA Available Today?”
- We are specifically discussing MDMA that has been sent to a lab, tested with GCMS or other lab testing, found to be MDMA, but presents with a different effects profile than typical MDMA. We are not discussing un-tested product that could be anything or contain any adulterant.
- “Loss of magic” does not explain the issue, because the alternate effects profile has been experienced by users new to MDMA, including MDMA virgins and users with a short history of use. Also, many users who have experienced this sub-par MDMA go on to experience traditional MDMA from other batches of product with no loss of quality to the experience.
- “Set and Setting” does not explain the issue because it has been experienced across multiple settings/environments/circumstances. Furthermore, multiple users report experiencing the sub-par effects from one batch, and then trying a different batch and easily rolling with a traditional effects profile.
- Dosage does not explain the issue, because the questionable products have been tested in a wide range of doses from low to high with no improvement in effects.
- Route of administration does not change the issue, as several users report alternate routes of administration with no change in effects.
- No, we do not mean to imply that ALL modern MDMA is of poor quality. Obviously, there is plenty of high-quality MDMA out there. However, there is a large amount of poor-quality product available, and it has been reported across multiple continents and regions.
- Although we have not currently identified the specific nature of this problem, we have discussed a variety of possibilities based on published research articles. Some of the possible explanations are: undetected contaminants, structurally similar compounds that present as MDMA to GCMS, metabolic/liver processing issues, drug polymorphism, and isomer ratios.
- Please review the below chart for a simplified visual of what has been noted by many contributors to this thread over the last several years. These are generalizations based on observations and may not be true in every circumstance.
Traditional (magic) MDMA | Sub-par (meh) MDMA | |
Mydriasis (eye dilation) | Yes | No |
Enhanced tactile senses | Yes | No |
Enhanced auditory senses | Yes | No |
Feelings of euphoria | Yes | No |
Feelings of empathy | Yes | No |
Pro-social behaviors | Yes | No |
Energy | Yes | No |
Feeling sleepy | No | Yes |
Desire to be alone/quiet | No | Yes |
Enhanced sex/making out | Yes | No |
Feelings of love | Yes | No |
Desire to be still | No | Yes |
Jaw movement | Yes (tension, grinding) | Yes (shivering, shaking) |
Duration | 4-6 hours | 1-3 hours |