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What is there to do during lockdown apart from drink?
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All our actions and inactions, positive and negative, count.
Chinup, I just watched a member sail off in his oil tanker to the middle of nowhere where he longed to be so, since you're a moderator: If you Ignore somebody, is it onesided, that you can't see them, or twosided, that neither can see each other?
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Bluelighter
Still ignoring the big questions..
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
the ignore function on here is janky. i don't control it and we low level mods have no insight into how it works. it is not symmetrical, fuck i have had notifications when the only member i have on ignore has quoted me!! sometimes it works perfectly, like threads i know they have posts in you just see nothing. but other times you see their name but just the content is taken out but you can click to see it.
i will say don't get too upset if someone puts you on ignore. most people on here are british and we all hate ourselves and anyone who doesn't obviously hate themselves. culturally, we don't big up our achievements, like Eric Newby called his book about some serious mountineering feats 'a short walk in the hindu kush,' i do quite difficult programming but usually describe my job as typing. so we find it a bit strange and jarring when someone is obviously so pleased with themselves about having done things that they actually should be pleased with themselves about. so, don't get upset about it or think you should play down your achievements, its not you, its us.
i know right!! like if i had been able to go off around the world i'd probably not have developed this drinking problem. or at least i'd have developed it somewhere warmer. but as the next few countries on my hit list are predominantly muslim i doubt i will drink much in those.
Bella Figura
Bluelight Crew
I have friends who drink and drug in Saudi desert parties, you'd be surprised what goes on...
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
oh yeah i'm sure plenty goes on. just not sure about the wisdom of a white girl travelling either alone or with people i don't know very well (i.e. on group tours cos none of my friends wanna do weird holidays with me) partaking. i try to be cautious especially when i'm on my own, though some safety suggestions are ridiculous- was told not to go out after dark in amman but i'd have needed to eat at like 6 to stick to that and was in a super central area.
we got offered alcohol by our guide in iran, he said basically even there most people drink at big parties etc just have to bribe the police ahead of time. my boyf at the time wanted to go for it but backed down when i said if he was drinking, i'm never coming this close to afghanistan again probably so i would get some dark.
we got offered alcohol by our guide in iran, he said basically even there most people drink at big parties etc just have to bribe the police ahead of time. my boyf at the time wanted to go for it but backed down when i said if he was drinking, i'm never coming this close to afghanistan again probably so i would get some dark.
I won;t lose sleep over getting ignored, I actually prefer it to people being aversively contrarian vs everything you write for years. A swift ignore is more pleasurable for all involved than an endless arguing thats like a nutsack waxing for anyone reading it.
like if i had been able to go off around the world i'd probably not have developed this drinking problem.
I'm handicapped Chinup, for life, and not just impaired by that but also, by poverty. If I physically had the ability to go over there and do the work and harvest the happiness which would have been a wonderful experience, there wouldnt have been the money to even do the work. So, this strapped on cash handicapped guy scraped some cash together during covid times and rather than spend it on himself spent it on the wellbeing of people he will never meet in countries he will never visit through use of a volunteer network. I contracted it, my money made it possible, finalized the design and cranked the wheels in motion, while quitting all drugs, losing 25 lbs and studying up for a side job to help people in need in my own country, as an unpaid volunteer.
So what can one do in lockdown other than drink? Well a whole fucking lot even when not well off in the least in terms of health and finances, if one bloody well tries and perseveres.
So, I compiled a joyful list of what I managed to get done while in lockdown nonstop since Feb 2020, in the hopes it would pleasantly challenge people to make more of this time when we're all restricted in our mobility.
Of course the guy talking about spending 300 grand on an oil tanker and a mil on fueling it up and sailing off to nowhere to be king of an empty hill felt stepped on the dick by that, so not to appear as a egotistical misantrope he had to flak the crap out of that. Of course, it doent look good to brag about spending 1.3 million quid on a selfindulgent escape fantasy where you give the world the finger and some bloke passes by and mentions he scaped 1/1000 of that together and spent it all on the needy and destitute of the world. So how would a misantrope react to such development? Heinously, obviously, further underlining the nature of his stance.
Fuck him.
like if i had been able to go off around the world i'd probably not have developed this drinking problem.
I'm handicapped Chinup, for life, and not just impaired by that but also, by poverty. If I physically had the ability to go over there and do the work and harvest the happiness which would have been a wonderful experience, there wouldnt have been the money to even do the work. So, this strapped on cash handicapped guy scraped some cash together during covid times and rather than spend it on himself spent it on the wellbeing of people he will never meet in countries he will never visit through use of a volunteer network. I contracted it, my money made it possible, finalized the design and cranked the wheels in motion, while quitting all drugs, losing 25 lbs and studying up for a side job to help people in need in my own country, as an unpaid volunteer.
So what can one do in lockdown other than drink? Well a whole fucking lot even when not well off in the least in terms of health and finances, if one bloody well tries and perseveres.
So, I compiled a joyful list of what I managed to get done while in lockdown nonstop since Feb 2020, in the hopes it would pleasantly challenge people to make more of this time when we're all restricted in our mobility.
Of course the guy talking about spending 300 grand on an oil tanker and a mil on fueling it up and sailing off to nowhere to be king of an empty hill felt stepped on the dick by that, so not to appear as a egotistical misantrope he had to flak the crap out of that. Of course, it doent look good to brag about spending 1.3 million quid on a selfindulgent escape fantasy where you give the world the finger and some bloke passes by and mentions he scaped 1/1000 of that together and spent it all on the needy and destitute of the world. So how would a misantrope react to such development? Heinously, obviously, further underlining the nature of his stance.
Fuck him.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
i think you are putting us all to shame @Asante - though it is better you organised it from afar, even outside of COVID, it denies local people work.
i must say my sister is in the humanitarian sector and i feel disollusioned with it. most of her job s deciding which desperately in need people get help and which don't, because there aren't resources for all of them. i've done some data analysis for a few of her projects and there is never any statisically significant impact.
for example- they are trying to prepare Dhaka for an earthquake due that might hit from Kathmandu right down to the bay of Bengal. she needed security guards and couldn't leave her hotel at nights because aid workers are a target for terrorists.
flood defenses sound great but the locals put a massive hole in so they can drive their cars through.
sex education to reduce infant/maternal mortality- accidentally caused loads of women to go to hospital for straightforward births, saddling them with unecessary debt.
not telling farmers some of their seeds are drought resistant so they just threw them in with the rest so no impact could be evaluated.
what sending a couple of brits halfway round the world to East Timor to suggest that if they fish, given they are on an island, is supposed to do i don't know. this can't be the first they've heard of the see being a potential food source.
i could go on. i still donate money but its more to assuage my middle class guilt than cos i think it will help anything. luckily i have a specialised job that enables me to work on projects that could genuinely help people so that's a better use of my time.
anyway, back on topic. i did not drink last night so that is good. i'm not entirely sure what i did that wasn't drinking.
i've reached the point of annoyance with myself that i'm considering doing boring shit like trimming the hedge on saturday just to try and avoid drinking.
i must say my sister is in the humanitarian sector and i feel disollusioned with it. most of her job s deciding which desperately in need people get help and which don't, because there aren't resources for all of them. i've done some data analysis for a few of her projects and there is never any statisically significant impact.
for example- they are trying to prepare Dhaka for an earthquake due that might hit from Kathmandu right down to the bay of Bengal. she needed security guards and couldn't leave her hotel at nights because aid workers are a target for terrorists.
flood defenses sound great but the locals put a massive hole in so they can drive their cars through.
sex education to reduce infant/maternal mortality- accidentally caused loads of women to go to hospital for straightforward births, saddling them with unecessary debt.
not telling farmers some of their seeds are drought resistant so they just threw them in with the rest so no impact could be evaluated.
what sending a couple of brits halfway round the world to East Timor to suggest that if they fish, given they are on an island, is supposed to do i don't know. this can't be the first they've heard of the see being a potential food source.
i could go on. i still donate money but its more to assuage my middle class guilt than cos i think it will help anything. luckily i have a specialised job that enables me to work on projects that could genuinely help people so that's a better use of my time.
anyway, back on topic. i did not drink last night so that is good. i'm not entirely sure what i did that wasn't drinking.
i've reached the point of annoyance with myself that i'm considering doing boring shit like trimming the hedge on saturday just to try and avoid drinking.
Actually its a volunteer organisation, they don't go around with a drill rig like in this feelgood video:
But rather, they have a few local people taught the specifics. A council of village chiefs decides which village is most in need, they go there, they recruit people from the community and teach them how to dig the well BY HAND themselves, using locally sourced materials, how to do repairts, who to call etc. So what they do is teach villagers the skill to dig their own 100 foot deep water wells, install pumps, maintain and guard them etc so they arent just giving fishes but are actually teaching how to fish - they now know how to dig water wells on the level of technology that is available to them. This is INCREDIBLY cost efficient, wells built this way are ridiculously cheap cause theres no $200K drilling rig being transported around, no people flown in etc.
Its horrible how many westerners are flown in to basically grandstand, at a ticket price and environmental burden greater than the cost of the whole project. Its become a thing to do a vacation of "unskilled helping" and then return with the loot of social media pictures of them handing crayons to bewildered looking kids with clear marasmus.
Its outrageous how much money and effort is wasted basically to make westerners feel good about themselves.
You're 100% correct about that empowering local people to help themselves is key to success. Let them rise, fan the flames of their initiatives. They are smart enough and know better than us what is needed in many cases because they are on the spot.
The benefactor not as top-down enforcer of what they think is right but as assistant in enhancing community viability.
When we get the Shroomery back up there's going to be one water well in one Ugandan village bearing the Shroomery logo :D because thats what the members put together. Maybe there will be more, but at least 1. That means the world for that village.
anyway, back on topic. i did not drink last night so that is good. i'm not entirely sure what i did that wasn't drinking.
i've reached the point of annoyance with myself that i'm considering doing boring shit like trimming the hedge on saturday just to try and avoid drinking
When you are FED UP is the best possible time to implement change, so enhance your sense of that enough is enough, fan those flames, and restate your Top 5 Reasons To Be Sober religiously.
But rather, they have a few local people taught the specifics. A council of village chiefs decides which village is most in need, they go there, they recruit people from the community and teach them how to dig the well BY HAND themselves, using locally sourced materials, how to do repairts, who to call etc. So what they do is teach villagers the skill to dig their own 100 foot deep water wells, install pumps, maintain and guard them etc so they arent just giving fishes but are actually teaching how to fish - they now know how to dig water wells on the level of technology that is available to them. This is INCREDIBLY cost efficient, wells built this way are ridiculously cheap cause theres no $200K drilling rig being transported around, no people flown in etc.
Its horrible how many westerners are flown in to basically grandstand, at a ticket price and environmental burden greater than the cost of the whole project. Its become a thing to do a vacation of "unskilled helping" and then return with the loot of social media pictures of them handing crayons to bewildered looking kids with clear marasmus.
Its outrageous how much money and effort is wasted basically to make westerners feel good about themselves.
You're 100% correct about that empowering local people to help themselves is key to success. Let them rise, fan the flames of their initiatives. They are smart enough and know better than us what is needed in many cases because they are on the spot.
The benefactor not as top-down enforcer of what they think is right but as assistant in enhancing community viability.
When we get the Shroomery back up there's going to be one water well in one Ugandan village bearing the Shroomery logo :D because thats what the members put together. Maybe there will be more, but at least 1. That means the world for that village.
anyway, back on topic. i did not drink last night so that is good. i'm not entirely sure what i did that wasn't drinking.
i've reached the point of annoyance with myself that i'm considering doing boring shit like trimming the hedge on saturday just to try and avoid drinking
When you are FED UP is the best possible time to implement change, so enhance your sense of that enough is enough, fan those flames, and restate your Top 5 Reasons To Be Sober religiously.
Ahhh... Man I felt I recognized your name elsewhere. Shroomery has done me a lot of good over the years in my own hunting, despite my seeming inability to find very many actives
Speaking of what to do during lockdown! Mushroom hunting is damn fun, gets you out in nature hiking around, and can bring about lots of physical and mental health benefits.
Just made up a tincture from Fomitopsis pinicola I found recently. Morels already popping in some areas.
Foraging in general is fun. Berries, herbs, roots..
-GC
4meSM
Bluelighter
Yeah I have great memories of going on shroom hunting expeditions.
Sometimes we had to walk for hours through pastures and small forests, only ever stopping to roll spliffs. But finding a bunch of shrooms growing in the wild is an amazing feeling, in my case it was mainly Cubensis and Copelandia cyanescens (had to look that one up). Some specific spots were absolutely filled with shrooms, sometimes 100s of them very close together, but you had to go at the right time of the year.
I don't think I've picked up a regular -non hallucinogenic- mushroom though (only by mistake)... I should try doing that next time.
Sometimes we had to walk for hours through pastures and small forests, only ever stopping to roll spliffs. But finding a bunch of shrooms growing in the wild is an amazing feeling, in my case it was mainly Cubensis and Copelandia cyanescens (had to look that one up). Some specific spots were absolutely filled with shrooms, sometimes 100s of them very close together, but you had to go at the right time of the year.
I don't think I've picked up a regular -non hallucinogenic- mushroom though (only by mistake)... I should try doing that next time.