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What do YOU think is the most dangerous drug?

Dangerous to overdose- Propofol
Dangerous for brain- PCP
Dangerous for addiction- Any particular individual's DOC
 
Well, I think I'd have to go with meth...much as I used to, and kinda still do, love it, I also hate it too. Makes you crazy, changes your personality, fucks up your skin and your appearance generally, and destroys your ability to make good judgements. It's fun for the first 12 hours every time though...
 
Science and how the body works i guess.

And usually if you aren't exercising regularly (aka contracting muscles which is a form of tensing them aka the opposite of relaxation) your likely relaxing your muscles regularly instead.
(Without benzos this is) And over time this can reduce muscle tone and health. Because your muscles dont really see the need to be toned as you don't use them.


Benzos are quite the muscle relaxer. Some more so than others...Same applies ^ too one when on benzos. But benzos taken often along with little to no exercise likely speed up this muscle detoning/deterioration process as they add to the muscle relaxation you are already getting from lack of exercise.

However if you exercise regularly on benzos or not on benzos i believe you can significantly reduce this reduced muscle tone side effect. While also helping yourself fight against the long CNS depressant long term side effects of benzos (taking a CNS depressant regularly isn't good for your heart, muscles or anything).

I think you are wrong about benzos effects on muscles.

Not all benzos are muscle relaxers, in fact I think most of them aren't.

I was on Klonopin for 11 years and it was not a muscle relaxant in the way that something like Soma is and did not have the affect of significantly relaxing my muscles, more so just my mind.

Now while I DID exercise regularly on them, I'm no pro athlete by a LONG shot and I can say that after 11 years of taking them every single day I never noticed any significant weakening of my muscles of any kind and I am still probably stronger than a lot of people in my size and age group.

Can you post a source that says that they cause muscular degeneration?

Cause I've never heard that before.

I think however that they do have a lot of health defects associated with them, just not that one, but they can also be extremely helpful and I think they have become a drug that a lot of people like to unfairly demonize.


As far as most dangerous drug...I really have no idea.

But opiates are certainly dangerous because of their attractiveness that's for sure.
 
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Volatile Inhalants like duster, 25I-NBOMe and all NBx drugs, MDPV/A-PVP/Any PV drug, Crack cocaine, Barbiturates, Fentanyl powder, Fentanyl analogs, Any branded legal high, RC benzos, PMA, Ambein, Nightshades and XLR-11/AM-2201/Any extremely potent or fluorinated synthetic cannabinoid.
 
I think you are wrong about benzos effects on muscles.

Not all benzos are muscle relaxers, in fact I think most of them aren't.

I was on Klonopin for 11 years and it was not a muscle relaxant in the way that something like Soma is and did not have the affect of significantly relaxing my muscles, more so just my mind.

Now while I DID exercise regularly on them, I'm no pro athlete by a LONG shot and I can say that after 11 years of taking them every single day I never noticed any significant weakening of my muscles of any kind and I am still probably stronger than a lot of people in my size and age group.

Can you post a source that says that they cause muscular degeneration?


Proof of them possessing muscle relaxing properties . It varies benzo to benzo . Some are quite strong. While others like idk Clonazepam is a bit more muscle relaxing.

http://www.drugs.com/article/benzodiazepines.html
"The skeletal muscle relaxant class, which includes agents such as baclofen, carisoprodol, methocarbamol, metaxalone, and cyclobenzaprine, are typically used first-line when a muscle relaxing therapeutic effect is needed. Benzodiazepines such as diazepam may be used short-term as muscle relaxants reducing the tone of skeletal muscle. These are generally used to relieve painful skeletal muscle spasms."


As for the muslce degeneration that was just an educated guess. Taking something that relaxes your muscles constantly... No good is going to come from that. Im sure you can find articles but I'm stoned as hell lol. utfse.
 
Proof of them possessing muscle relaxing properties . It varies benzo to benzo . Some are quite strong. While others like idk Clonazepam is a bit more muscle relaxing.

http://www.drugs.com/article/benzodiazepines.html
"The skeletal muscle relaxant class, which includes agents such as baclofen, carisoprodol, methocarbamol, metaxalone, and cyclobenzaprine, are typically used first-line when a muscle relaxing therapeutic effect is needed. Benzodiazepines such as diazepam may be used short-term as muscle relaxants reducing the tone of skeletal muscle. These are generally used to relieve painful skeletal muscle spasms."


As for the muslce degeneration that was just an educated guess. Taking something that relaxes your muscles constantly... No good is going to come from that. Im sure you can find articles but I'm stoned as hell lol. utfse.

Hah, I can see where your logic was going here, but just, no. Benzodiazepines have several effects beyond just binding to BZD sites - they can lower & raise certain hormones that are involved in muscle tone, weight management, stress, etc. I would direct your attention to these downstream effects rather than your logic.
 
Nasty lab shit like Krokodil. Russians are using it to replace heroin and this substance I f.. dangerous as it eats ones own flesh..arg.
 
I have never known anyone that does krokodil but heroin is taking people left and right where I am from. It's cut with something even stronger then heroin, and it's not cool. Heroin.
 
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