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What do YOU think is the most dangerous drug?

well now im not surprised to see people say cannabis b/c theres a WHOLE LOT of self-righteousness in this forum.

thanks for closing my thread btw. apparently having an unpopular opinion isnt welcome around here. didnt even give it a chance to produce discussion/debate. if youre worried about HR, you maybe shouldnt do drugs or run a site about them. js
 
splittingtheadam89 said:
thanks for closing my thread btw. apparently having an unpopular opinion isnt welcome around here. didnt even give it a chance to produce discussion/debate. if youre worried about HR, you maybe shouldnt do drugs or run a site about them. js
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It's not unpopular, just plain stupid. You essentially said knowing exactly what you are taking is stupid and people should just take random drugs without caring about what they'll do. This is a harm reduction site so you shouldn't be surprised it got closed.
 
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So hard to choose but when i think about me , my friends, people i know/used to know, people i know who are dead now, stories i hear on here and experience. it would have to be ....

Benzos .
They trick you the first few times by providing the best "fix" for anxiety ever imagined. I loved the first few times i did them .
Within a month-4 tolerance builds and theres rebound anxiety from it . you take more. and more and more. Well most do . But eveneutally you realize fuck what am i doing and why am i being so stupid.... I did stop eventually . some don't and continue.
When you can't get benzos you drink too which is even worse for you imo . and damn are benzos hard to get where I'm from if you are dependent on them.

If you don't exercise on the regular with them . (they make exercise harder btw) they physically ruin your muscles, cardio system, brain, bone density, muscle tone over time to the point where your dying slowly.
They actually increase mental fog by 100%, give you mad rebound anxiety that you have to face sometimes years of in abstinence before you see any impovements. Your memory becomes like a fish. Nothing else works really to solve it .
Some people who do benzos can't handle responsible use of them either so they take tonnes or more than needed everyday sometimes. Get themselves into situations a lot of the time bad. Become violent. Forget they did things. etc. This can effect their quality of life and others.
And because they are addicted would do stupid things for them like many other types of drug addictions.
Benzos have also shown to hold carcinogenic properties as well.

So instead of being dead, and fiending like from an OD of heroin or crack instead your just in this state of "why the fuck am i not be dead cuz I'm not pretty much useless without this piss" after some long term benzo use hits you innocent body mahwa. its not funny though :(
 
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Well.. alcohol is actually extremely dangerous, especially if alcoholism runs in your family. My Mother is an alcoholic and I saw the disease progress to the fullest extent. Luckily, she has been two years sober from any alcohol. When I ask her about the things she went through and choices she made, it's a lot more then just " wanting to have a drink". It can, will and does kill people. Alcoholic or not. Many alcoholics actually go their whole lives without getting proper treatment and continue to drink till they die. As someone who has two immediate family members with alocholism, I know alcohol kills. It can be VERY dangerous.
 
Cannabis is only dangerous under stupid, unethical, propaganda infused prohibition. When it's illegal the ways of getting it become more dangerous.
I'm pretty certain the OP probably meant which drug is worst for mankind when ingested? In that case I would say heroin. Or any opiates really. Ugh they are so good and make everything feel better. How can you argue that? Who doesn't want to feel good all the time?
 
jamesmartin said:
If you don't exercise on the regular with them . (they make exercise harder btw) they physically ruin your muscles, cardio system, brain, bone density, muscle tone over time to the point where your dying slowly.
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Do you have more information related to this?
 
falsifiedhypothesi said:
It's not unpopular, just plain stupid. You essentially said knowing exactly what you are taking is stupid and people should just take random drugs without caring about what they'll do. This is a harm reduction site so you shouldn't be surprised it got closed.
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Agreed. This isn't a drug site, it's a harm reduction site. There are other sites for glorifying drug use that are way more appropriate for that unpopular discussion. Even so, I think you'd get the same response. If you like surprises and unknown outcomes, go for a hike up a mountain, or meet new people from an obscure social circle, or go to your local international district and try a new food, or adopt a puppy. If you need to take drugs, eat some mushrooms, put on headphones and listen to music that you don't normally listen to and see what kind of a journey it invokes. I tried this the other day and it was a whole new experience, completely eye-opining. Putting random unknown chemicals in your body and waiting to see what happens is just about the worst way to seek out a thrill. The only thing dumber is trying to convince other people to do it too.

Back on topic, I say nicotine, hands down. I've never felt more of a direct negative impact form a drug than I have with nicotine. Even alcohol, which I drink every single night, has never made my body feel so directly damaged from usage. Then, after the almost entirely unpleasant nicotine effects wear off, I somehow find myself fiending for more! Then, I observe the smokers around me and how they act towards cigarettes the same way tweakers act towards meth, and how similar the resulting behavioral patterns are (ie. compulsiveness, obsession, prioritization, disregard, entitlement, etc..). I hate, hate, hate, HATE cigarettes and the entire lifestyle that surrounds them. Way worse than alcohol.
 
Burnt Offerings said:
Do you have more information related to this?
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Science and how the body works i guess.

And usually if you aren't exercising regularly (aka contracting muscles which is a form of tensing them aka the opposite of relaxation) your likely relaxing your muscles regularly instead.
(Without benzos this is) And over time this can reduce muscle tone and health. Because your muscles dont really see the need to be toned as you don't use them.


Benzos are quite the muscle relaxer. Some more so than others...Same applies ^ too one when on benzos. But benzos taken often along with little to no exercise likely speed up this muscle detoning/deterioration process as they add to the muscle relaxation you are already getting from lack of exercise.

However if you exercise regularly on benzos or not on benzos i believe you can significantly reduce this reduced muscle tone side effect. While also helping yourself fight against the long CNS depressant long term side effects of benzos (taking a CNS depressant regularly isn't good for your heart, muscles or anything).
 
the most dangerous drug is Propofol
At least that's the easiest to overdose on.
It has a steep dose-response curve, moreso than drugs like heroin or barbiturates, and is therefore far more dangerous.
also a popular drug for executions, and the killer of the king of pop...
 
After reading the empathogenics forum here... MDMA when badly used. Fuck man those long term comedowns surely scare me. It feels like it is a drug with some serious potential to fuck your mind up. I have a cousin who went through a year long LTC and shit she says it was hell on earth, and she was not the depressive type. Even worse was not knowing wtf was happening while she was going through it i guess.

Otherwise... Well opiates are playing with the devil... And shooting cocaine... That white bitch always convinces you to do another shot even if your poor heart is already exploding. Rec dose is too close from killin yourself dose and yet you can spend all night doin it...
 
marijuana is by the far the worst, the school drug counseler said that lots of kids inject marijuana and overdose+die.





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Marijuana by far because it is a gateway drug and it could lead to every horrible drug there is.

Also nicotine because in terms of amounts I think less than a microgram can kill you.

But in all seriousness probably alcohol. People think just because it is legal it is safe. Well first off alcohol is one of the few drugs you can die coming off of. Also people tend to get violent when they drink and that stuff does thin out your blood so sharp objects, alcohol, and violent people can lead to a shitload of blood.

Also since it is legal people go to the bar and get drunk and get behind the wheel. I think alcohol causes many deaths.

Chronic alcoholism is an ugly thing to witness. People are semi functional on it so they still go about the day, work, drive, and whatnot while impaired. Then they get all self righteous and shit because it is legal.

Crack is a really nasty drug too. Crack heads will literally steal your car and sell your clothes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRAOWepVplw
 
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Seattle_Stranger said:
Back on topic, I say nicotine, hands down. I've never felt more of a direct negative impact form a drug than I have with nicotine. Even alcohol, which I drink every single night, has never made my body feel so directly damaged from usage. Then, after the almost entirely unpleasant nicotine effects wear off, I somehow find myself fiending for more! Then, I observe the smokers around me and how they act towards cigarettes the same way tweakers act towards meth, and how similar the resulting behavioral patterns are (ie. compulsiveness, obsession, prioritization, disregard, entitlement, etc..). I hate, hate, hate, HATE cigarettes and the entire lifestyle that surrounds them. Way worse than alcohol.
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Good post! Just came back in after smoking a cig and your post is spot on. Immediately regretted doing it, but i know i will be out smoking again in an hour or two. Its doesn't have a effect that is worth the side and long term effects.

Its always about chasing these one cigarette a day that's really nice. Like the first cigarette a day with a coup of coffee or the cigarette after a massive meal. The cigarette that tastes good and is enjoyable. But 90% of times its not really enjoyable. Sometimes i feel how people addicted to gambling could feel. Putting a cig in my mouth hoping this time i will win and it will be some how enjoyable.
 
This is a tough one. I think the most addictive is nicotine, the easiest to overdose on being heroin, the most destructive to user when it comes to addiction, destruction of body and mind I think is easily methamphetamine. The drug I'd say that is the most damaging and dangerous once you become hooked, though in my experience its harder to become hooked than most drugs... Is alcohol. But if you do become hooked.. Alcohol for sure is probably the worst.

So I'd say the most dangerous drug is methamphetamine. For sure. Plus overdose isn't too difficult on this one either. I got hooked on the first hit. Within a week was injecting it. I swore I'd never do it more than once. Nope. Couldn't do it. Said the same for heroin... And have only done heroin once. To this day. So that's my personal experience.
 
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