Opioids What do you find more enjoyable heroin or fentanyl?

[BabyFoo]

100% heroin .

 

[LucidSDreamr]

Heroin and it’s relatives have a way better high.

Fentanyl is just stronger for ppl that can’t get that high off heroin because they are too addicted to opioids.

Fentanyl has cleaner and more clearheaded and less sedating equigesic pain releif to heroin and it just seems better as a pain killer period to me (the fentanyl patches I’m referring to for pain)

 

[LucidSDreamr]

I do not believe what you stated $70-80 per gram for 70%. The math does not add up and I am not trying measure dicks with you. I am nicely illustrating the difficulty of selling single grams of 70% #4 for that price.

It doesn’t this should be significantly more for 70 percent #4 by the gram. Heroin is the most expensive drugs besides pharma pills and all of them even dilaided and 80s are fakes I think now. It’s bullshit.

 

[TheUltimateFixx]

What sort of question even is that.

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

The single gram $175 was without the morphine cut. For 10 grams it dropped to $140 per gram. These prices are standard for being linked to a well organized outfit regularly smuggling a kilogram from NYC down the Eastern Seaboard. It is was unfortunate being in a lot of the fed's photographs and having my name documented. I got clean and left the area 3 months before the feds indited the 95% of the outfit and brought up 100 others on charges.

Once it hit US soil, the starting price per kilogram of SEA #4 95% went for $80,000-$100,000 between 2000-2008. The Nigerian and French smugglers then handed it to the Mafia and others in NYC who cut it down to 80% for kilogram purchases.

With all due respect, I do not believe what you stated $70-80 per gram for 70%. The math does not add up and I am not trying measure dicks with you. I am nicely illustrating the difficulty of selling single grams of 70% #4 for that price.

I never sent any in for a purity test or anything but this was metro Detroit and at the time %s as high as 85 were showing up in ten bags off corners (DEA statistics). I normally did 4 dilly 4's in a hit (16mgs) and 2 packs woulda ended me fosure. Did a lil less than one so like 60 80 mg........ Morphine usually 100mg (due to 60mg per ml solubility a rinse was needed)

Based on equivalency charts it FELT about 70-90% --- than they all started having fet and game over.

You clearly have more experience in this world so I will not squabble -- I think the DEA database is our only real answer and how much do you trust the DEA? I trust your theory more frankly they love hyperbole. Its 1000% pure and its in the candy!! lol

I suppose I should have mentioned I wasn't buying 1g at a time off of corner boys, fingers and bricks as the journey was long and the risk insane.

 

[Them Witches]

I never sent any in for a purity test or anything but this was metro Detroit and at the time %s as high as 85 were showing up in ten bags off corners (DEA statistics). I normally did 4 dilly 4's in a hit (16mgs) and 2 packs woulda ended me fosure. Did a lil less than one so like 60 80 mg........ Morphine usually 100mg (due to 60mg per ml solubility a rinse was needed)

Based on equivalency charts it FELT about 70-90% --- than they all started having fet and game over.

You clearly have more experience in this world so I will not squabble -- I think the DEA database is our only real answer and how much do you trust the DEA? I trust your theory more frankly they love hyperbole. Its 1000% pure and its in the candy!! lol

I suppose I should have mentioned I wasn't buying 1g at a time off of corner boys, fingers and bricks as the journey was long and the risk insane.

I learn something new everyday. Thank you for explaining. If I came off cross, it wasn't my intention.

You would have loved the dope I am referring to.

Have tried Clonidine with opioids?

 

[to_oblivion]

100% prefer heroin over fentanyl. Fentanyl is cold and feels like you're teetering on the edge between life and death. It's just too easy to die trying to enjoy fentanyl, which is why I quit dope in the first place. Very tragic that so many junkies don't know the beautiful warm hold of H and only chase that nasty cold grip Fentanyl has on you.

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Def have used clonodine with opiates -- diphenhydramamine (Benadryl) was a common cut towards the end when things were falling apart. Nah ya came across fine I would normally challenge those #'s too (And I cannot say surely it was or was not above 70%) but based on 50mg = 150 of morphine 70% feels about right.....frankly I was lucky the person I was with told me 4 4's was about equal to .2 --- than demanded the first hit and almost dropped off .12 so I adjusted my estimate to half that for safety.

Damn kids would sell points for 50 bucks locally and it was partially my fault "How much could we get forr this?" Idk prolly 50 a point if you want to be pricks --- and it was set in stone they wanted to be pricks. I just based that on 50c/mg for morphine which may or may not have been what it was running around here

 

[Helpmeescapethis]

I’m in the minority, but after having access to pure fentanyl HCl crystals AND 90%+ #4 heroin over a decade ago, something inside me prefers fentanyl. This stuff cannot be compared to fentanyl of the street.

I know people say it lacks all the warmth and euphoria, but not for me. I loved being able to redose and get another amazing rush, every single time. With heroin, even pure stuff, the histamine reaction become too much for the doses my tolerance requires, and the rushes dissipate. Butyrfentanyl trumps all, though.

Damn shame it’s entirely gone, even on the markets. Now it’s just nitazenes.

 

[justme6263]

I've never ever had Fent (knowingly at least) but I had at Nitazene and Imo heroin is much more enjoyable, I find I nod more on Heroin where are Nitazene I just tend to pass out eventually..,

 

[Asante]

3-methylfentanyl is way better than heroin even if it's a tad less euphoric. buy some poppyseed

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

I’m in the minority, but after having access to pure fentanyl HCl crystals AND 90%+ #4 heroin over a decade ago, something inside me prefers fentanyl. This stuff cannot be compared to fentanyl of the street.

I know people say it lacks all the warmth and euphoria, but not for me. I loved being able to redose and get another amazing rush, every single time. With heroin, even pure stuff, the histamine reaction become too much for the doses my tolerance requires, and the rushes dissipate. Butyrfentanyl trumps all, though.

Damn shame it’s entirely gone, even on the markets. Now it’s just nitazenes.

Now you are in the minority --- but getting pure fent at least you know what you are dealing with. take that over the ?h/?f/?w/e else ratio on the street. still prefer heroin but I can understand the histamine release being a bit much. (or that the price makes it worth it) lol.

never tried butyr-fent (that I know of haha) sucks its gone though

 

[drewbocop]

(Real) heroin and it's not even fucking close lmao
Fentanyl is a short-acting, soulless, knock out punch drug for those looking to escape reality. Shoot and dip into the ether for a while. No euphoria, just a punch to the temple. I used to use Fentanyl in the early 2000s as a kid getting boxes of Duragesic patches and lolipops. Even then, we thought they sucked compared to the natural opiates, or even hydrocodone/oxycodone. I hate fent. Most overrated shite out there and it kills you with slight errors to boot.

You know that South Park episode with the guy at the bank that goes "Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd it's gone."? That's fentanyl. Feel a lovely buzz for about 30 seconds and left wanting more. Real nice. Ironically, this 7-hydroxymitragynine powder I've been Tony Montana'ing lately feels the same way. There and gone, left fiendish and upset with myself.

 

[Asante]

3-methylfentanyl has a comparable duration to heroin and is as simple to make as fentanyl but the racemic form is 3200x morphine in potency. clearly superior to fentanyl.

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

^ Duration (as you know) does not equate to euphoria. (though it does keep you from being sick) I have not had any fent analogue that felt traditionally euphoric or 'warm'.