what bodybuilding supplements do you use?

to the OP,

i know this may not be what you want to hear, but i don't think it's sad at all that you're too young for steroids. in my opinion, everyone is too young for steroids. i would suggest stopping looking for a substitute for steroids and instead asking yourself why it is that you want to get bigger faster. wanting to get bigger faster is something of an unattainable goal because no matter how big you are or how fast you get there, you'll still want more faster. i used to lift hard too - I was a pole vaulter and I always wanted more strength and mass, more power and speed to give me more of an edge, and that led me to spend hella money on supplements, train way to hard, and ultimately cause permanent damage to my knees and low back from overtraining and one vault injury.

my recommendation is this: cultivate patience! you'll get there. what's the rush, really? focus on your most basic needs: eat well with lots of vegetables, fruit, protein, and omega oils (hemp seed oil is my favorite, great taste, optimal omega balance, pretty cheap), give the same focus to your sleep regimen that you give to your lifting regimen, and take the proper time to rest, recover, relax, and destress. and focus on the big, compound lifts, like the olympic lifts. these activate more muscles at once, generate more useful strength, and cause your body to naturally elevate its testosterone levels to compensate for the hard work (if I recall correctly). it's worth it to go slower without relying on supplemental aids, because then you'll have real gains, you won't damage your heart and liver like you would with HGH or steroids, you'll get to keep your balls, and you won't grow tits and need to go on hormone replacement therapy when you finally come off the juice because your body stopped producing its own hormones when it got dependent on steroids. this will also save you an absurd amount of cash on supplements which are really pricey. and if you go a bit slower and lift safely with proper technique, you can avoid a whole host of injuries. that is the most worthwhile part in my opinion. i've had chronic knee and back pain for the last six years from my bad training habits earlier in life, and i probably will for the rest of my life. and i'm only 23, so that's probably going to be a while. i really believe that it's very worthwhile to examine your desire to get bigger faster, and then step it back a bit. i wish i had.

sorry if you or someone else brought this up earlier, i didn't read all of the posts. fascinating information in here though!

peace, and best of luck in achieving your goals, whatever they may be
 
I think it would always be nice to grow your body in a natural way, by eating well and have a healthy diet plan. Rather than going for supplements, as somehow they always leave some side effects on your body and health. Which might appear to show up in later stage of your life.

Fair play on your view my friend, this is probably the best way to go for most people,
Though us who want to be the best, who want to be the biggest, strongest and most powerfull need to use supplements. The levels achievable with supplements both legal and illegal, absolutely blow natural gains out of the water.

I would never push my beliefs or views on AAS or whatever onto others though it is the path a lot of us have chosen, we decide that the benefit outweighs the risk
 
I think it would always be nice to grow your body in a natural way, by eating well and have a healthy diet plan. Rather than going for supplements, as somehow they always leave some side effects on your body and health. Which might appear to show up in later stage of your life.

I have always been an advocate for growing your body naturally to establish a foundation to build upon with steroids. During that time you learn how to read your body, be in tune with your body, and learn proper diet and what routines and lifts work best for you.

Jumping on steroids with no knowledge about hormones, biology, diet, or training is just asking for trouble. I see to many guys jump on Test, Tren, T3, Clenbuterol, and another injectable alongside one or two orals and wonder why their gains aren't a reflection of the amount of steroids they are on.

There is a guy on another site I post at who is running this as his first cycle and opted no to build a foundation, research hormones, and get his diet and routine in check:

Test P 100mg ED
Tren A 150mg ED
Deca 500mg EW
Test E 250mg EW
Clenbuterol 120mcg ED
T3 75mcg ED

There are other people on the site running half or even a quarter of the amount of gear he is running and look 150% better than him. It's quite sad. What's even sadder is that the guy is complaining about reddish urine. People are fucking idiots.
 
^Nice to see you're a mod, hah!

I recently picked up Muscletech's Anabolic Halo, which is glutamine, BCAAs, assorted test boosters, carbs, creatine, and a few other similar things; I also use whey & MHP's Up You Mass weight gainer; I need to get another pre-workout, but I'm not sure which. No steroids for me.
 
A good diet is the most important thing. Mine sucks right now and I need to sort it out, ill eat anything regardless of how processed it is. You may want to go high carb or high fat, but you will want high protein. Knowledge is the real answer to getting results, it will mean you will get bigger results from your hard work as you will be doing the right thing.

Also doing a routine made by a professional not one you made yourself or what you feel like on the day. People get paid a lot of money to write training programs, a lot of effort and research goes into some of better ones. Find a good routine, one thats been around for years and that works. Not onfrom a fitness mag. Stick to one routine for a few months otherwise you wont know if it worked or not.

As far as actual supplementa go. Only use protein if you cant get enough in your everyday diet. 1g pre lbs of bodyweight minimun.
I found the combination of creatine and beta alanine to boost strength ridiculously after just a weeks use. When first using it things that were previously difficult would suddenly be very easy. I was trying to lose weight and gain strength at the time. Which I managed to do, before hurting my back outside of the gym. Strength is directly linked to muscle growth. So these products Would be very beneficial. Caffeine powder, wont make you bigger or stronger but you will have more energy/endurance and possibly more of a willingness to work hard.

I would however say, if you are thinking about beta-alanine then to do some research on the subject as it seems fairly new and bad reactions do happen.

I think thats the most complete answer I can give and good luck, hopefully I can follow my advice too and get off the sofa. I have gym planned after work on monday and need to think about resetting my diet and getting into a routine with a good sleeping pattern and to have control over what I eat. Hope I've helped.
 
Fair play on your view my friend, this is probably the best way to go for most people,
Though us who want to be the best, who want to be the biggest, strongest and most powerfull need to use supplements. The levels achievable with supplements both legal and illegal, absolutely blow natural gains out of the water.
I agree with you on this one, I did a year of natural and then a year of supplementing, the results were nearly five times better than natural only. If you ate as people did many years ago you might get better results, but nowadays the food is crap. Even the best is not that great. If you want tremendous gains, you need to supplement.
 
Even with healthy modern foods it's hard to raise a certain macro nutrient without getting some bullshit you don't want, such as getting too much fat when raising protein intake.
 
pre workout:
3g l-arginine
3g l-arginine akg
2g beta alanine
2g citrulline malate
100mg caffeine

post workout
5g creatine mono hydrate
5g glutamine
whey protein
multi vitamin

before bed
zinc
magnessium
b6
gaba
 
pre workout:
3g l-arginine NO!
3g l-arginine akg NO!
2g beta alanine NO!

2g citrulline malate
100mg caffeine

post workout
5g creatine mono hydrate
5g glutamine NO!
whey protein
multi vitamin

before bed
zinc
magnessium
b6
gaba NO!


Stop wasting money and spreading this non-sense bro.
 
pre workout:
3g l-arginine
3g l-arginine akg
2g beta alanine
2g citrulline malate
100mg caffeine

post workout
5g creatine mono hydrate
5g glutamine
whey protein
multi vitamin

before bed
zinc
magnessium
b6
gaba

Gaba is synthesised from glutamate via glutamic acid decarboxylase takes place in the cytosol of axon terminals, GABA when orally ingested does not cross the blood-brain-barrier at significant levels..

Distribution of radioactivity was examined in various tissues following the administration of H3-γ-aminobutyric acid, injected intraperitoneally to adult mice and intraventriculariy to adult rabbits. In mice treated with amino oxyacetic acid, a potent inhibitor of γ-aminobutyrate-a-ketoglutarate transaminase, no significant amount of radioactivity was found in brain after intraperitoneal injection of labeled γ-aminobutyric acid. After intraventricular injection of labeled γ-aminobutyric acid to rabbits similarly treated, small amounts of radio activity did appear in liver and blood, but electrophoretic characterization showed that the label was not in γ-aminobutyric acid itself but in other metabolites. In untreated mice and rabbits, in which metabolism of γ-aminobutyric acid occurred normally, the label from injected H3-γ-aminobutyric acid was found by electrophoresis to be distributed over several major metabolites. The radioactivity that seemed to move into or from brain in these untreated animals was largely attributable to these labeled metabolites. These labeled derivatives of γ-aminobutyric acid, at present unidentified except glutamine, were discussed.

The present results demonstrate that the blood-brain barrier in adult animals is impermeable to both blood-borne γ-aminobutyric acid and endogenous cerebral γ-aminobutyric acid.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/002839087190013X
 
Supps have nothing on sauce. I used hundreds of dollars of supps & it did nothing comparing to one cycle of test.
 
There's been reports that milk thistle doesn't really do much if anything for the liver :/ otherwise I'd say a good water intake would be extremely beneficial.
 
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