what bodybuilding supplements do you use?

whey - where I live it's one of the cheapest sources of protein + I kinda like the taste
fish oil - more for health benefits
caffeine - when I'm a bit tired
dmaa - same as caffeine, sometimes combine both (low doses, high are too speedy for me)

creatine never done anything for me
 
bmxxx said:
first- cell mass is solid (i've done many tubs- bsn used to throw me shit 24/7 lol, i've consumed more 'proprietary' ingredients from their cellmass, no.xplode, and their stim product<can't recall brandname> than i care to admit or am comfortable with.
nobody is saying cellmass, or CEE doesn't work. the questions are in regards to relative safety/efficacy/price re the standard (creatine mono). if i'm going to consume CEE (regardless of price), i want to know a bit about it; i've found that is impossible for any conscientious consumer.

secondly- "most ppl think anything new is bullshit"... that's a very pessimistic way of seeing what is, in essence, a thinking person's reality. creatine mono cannot hold a candle to, say, test enthanate. but it's cheap, is absurdly "inert"/healthy/non-concerning wrt health/ etc. so, to be blunt, creatine is something that is all but foolish not to supplement with (whether you're looking for performance/ergogenic aids, or nootropics). But, yes, informed consumers are all too aware that, when THC is accepted by the masses, ppl will try to sell inferior, "RC" cannabinoids. i actually use such "spice" mixes, but in no way do i think they're equivalent to mj. i use them for other reasons. NOW, of those "other" reasons were irrelevant- like theyt are for accepted products like creatine, then, upon finding someone with a "better" tweaking of a compound, i'd expect sufficient proof b4 i swapped to their compound. CEE manufacturers are able to provide none (my recollection- though i will not google to confirm on this matter- is that it was a U of nebraska or iowa creation, and the inception 'proof' of validity didn't put it better than creatine. that 'proof' was also the most legit scientific work on this compound.

honestly, CEE is cheap as shit, so if it's better, i'll grab my next batch of creatine online instead of walmart/gnc/vit.shoppe. i hate buying inferior products. BUT, i think mono is the way to go right now, and until someone can clarify why CEE (or any other form outside of mono) is advantageous, then mono will be my go-to and the product i endorse to others :]
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Point taken. Maybe it's placebo but I have seen the best results from Kre-Alkalyn (the purple pills), and it was 29.99 for a months supply.
 
^^Where did you find a deal like that? Online? That is really cheap. Guess I have been getting ripped :( Even when I was using cytosport's creapure (monohydrate) it was like 25 a month!
 
OOOHhhh, you only take 5 grams a day....is that what you're saying. My kre-alkalyn bottle says if you weigh more than 200 (which I do) to take 3 pre and 3 post workout.
 
LOGan1314 said:
OOOHhhh, you only take 5 grams a day....is that what you're saying. My kre-alkalyn bottle says if you weigh more than 200 (which I do) to take 3 pre and 3 post workout.
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you're not taking your whey like b1t o'roughjack suggested right??? Lmfao... fucking retarded shit.
 
^^Naw, I was talking about creatine monohydrate. Based on his price numbers I did the calculations and he only takes 5 grams a day.

I Drink a 30 g whey shake 30 minutes before weight training and then a 45 gram whey shake with creatine immedieatly after.....that sounds right right??
 
'right' is subjective (at this point in our being :| ).
if you're asking if 75g high-quality protein around workout time is proper to ensure you get as much adaptatipon to the training stimulus as possible, then- yes, in regards to protein, that is sufficient. having carbs/fats in your system after training is beneficial too, as are a million other [unmentioned]things, but yes, your protein is fine. if you're getting at least 5g creatine daily, you're fine there, as well (and plz understand how creatine is used- if you're supplementing daily, and your typical daily routine includes a creatine-depleting workout, then, yeah, putting the creatine near your workout is common sense :] )
 
rubenr4g said:
sadly im too young for the juice yet (20yr old) and im trying to find some stuff i can add to get bigger quicker, basically things i can buy at GNC, vitamin stores etc what do you guys use?
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kre-alkalyn, jack3d micro, whey, and a LOT of red meat is my favorite combination.

i fixed my diet up (no more soda/junk food) and i've seen a good increase in strength while losing fat.

going to try to fit a whey-casein protein in there and see what it does for me, as i might have to cut back on the red meat (pain in the ass to cook 2x a day)...

i also want to add, that supernutrition multivitamin seems legit, been using them for 2 months and i feel a bit healthier (although it might be because i cut down, too).
 
-Guido- said:
Yup. I love it. Combined with Clenbuterol it burns fat like crazy.
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yohimbine headache outweighs the clen headache for me... i imagine the combination would feel like HELL. might give it a go with a couple NSAIDs for the first 2 days next time i cut though.

i've seen people cycling them as alternates (2 weeks of clen, 2 weeks of yohimbine) with good results around here too.
 
Lopez said:
yohimbine headache outweighs the clen headache for me... i imagine the combination would feel like HELL. might give it a go with a couple NSAIDs for the first 2 days next time i cut though.

i've seen people cycling them as alternates (2 weeks of clen, 2 weeks of yohimbine) with good results around here too.
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I honestly get no headache because I keep the dosage low. I experience minor jitters and some significant sweating and increase in temperature but that is all.

My supplements at the moment:

Milk Thistle
Soy Protien
Potassium
Multi-Vitamin
B12
B5
Vitamin E
 
Velvet Deer Antler Spray, Shark Cartilage, and a Myostatin inhibitor :D lol
 
bmxxx said:
anyone have experience using gelatin/collagen for joints?
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I haven't looked into gelatin/collagen for joints, but what I use that works is Cissus Quadrangularis and Omega 3 fatty acids. Idk if you ever have used Cissus but if you decide to try it make sure you get at least 5-10% standardized ketosterones.
 
bmxxx said:
^surprised to see you using soy..
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I'm only using it at the moment because I got a bunch for Christmas and it tastes fucking great. After it's gone though it's back to Whey.

I want to add that most of your protien should be coming from meat, nuts, eggs and actual food as opposed to protien shakes. Protein shakes are meant to SUPPLEMENT your protien intake, they aren't meant to be your main source of protien.
 
if it's soy shakes, of course not ;P
i'd rather have my protein from whey than from, say, beans. being in a powder isn't an inherent disadvantage, it's about bioavail and amino profile in my eyes. i actually got back on powder last week after almost a month on food-only.
 
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