Well, 2C-I was not that cool.

[Winding Vines]

I think if I took 50mg of 2C-I, I'd need a little help. 20mg produces a full +3. 16mg of 2C-I produces a strong +2, touching +3 at the peak, and this is the dosage I usually used.

 

[Von Kroloc]

I think if I took 50mg of 2C-I, I'd need a little help. 20mg produces a full +3. 16mg of 2C-I produces a strong +2, touching +3 at the peak, and this is the dosage I usually used.

Exactly! And I sure was in need of help! To my luck I was ably to call my girlfriend and tell her about my condition, and she rushed home from work! That, I think, probably saved my ass!

 

[Fragbait]

40mg didn't even give me a +3. While I was not able to drive, read, write, or draw, I was capable of walking around campus and interacting with people just fine.

 

[Morninggloryseed]

16mg of 2C-I is plenty for me. 20mg results in a full +3. 26mg (highest dosage I have used) absolutely floored me. I am very glad I do not need astronomically high dosages of these things to get to where I want to go. Only psychedelics I seem to be resistant to are 2C-B and 2C-T-7. I need 35mg to 40mg of each to really reach a full +3.

 

[PlunX]

2C-I, for me, is visuals with no trip. 2C-E on the other hand, is trip with little visuals. 2C-D is moderate trip with hardly any visuals. When I trip, I like to TRIP. Not just get visuals. I personally don't like 2C-I because of this reason, not to mention the wide array of side-effects people have been complaining about from it's use (static-y vision and other vision problems, usually). I can never reach a true ++ on 2C-I. The visuals are there, but the trip isn't. I've taken up to 33mg, I believe it was, and I still didn't really get the mental +++ I was looking for. Eye candy, nothing more. Peace.

 

[Blowmonkey]

Nope, hardly think that such a thing is possible..

 

[0bfuscate]

2C-E has visuals with alot of "mindfuck". But its not exactly a "recreational" drug. Use an accurate scale if you do decide to try it. It's stronger by the way, I suggest you start with 10-15 mg. Don't go over 20 mg your first time. This is a chemical I have respect for. I dont like to see it abused. The RC industry is destroyed anyways, I dont see why your asking.

I was going to mention 2C-E, too. I took only a median dose (11-14 mg--the person who sent it to m had used the "solution" method of measuring so it's not exact) and WOW.

 

[0bfuscate]

I say it all comes down to 'different strokes for different folks'. I realized this after discovering that I might possibly be one of the only posters on this forum that actually likes 5-MeO-AMT.

I like it, too. Granted, I've only used it twice so far, at fairly low doses (5 mg and 6 mg), but I did like it and will do it again. I liked 2C-E better, though.

 

[0bfuscate]

Hee hee. No sir. But I wish simple expectation could make any psychedelic experience as deep as the 2C-E experience. Then all the lesser psychedelics would have use.

2C-E was quite possibly the best psychedlic I've ever taken, and I really didn't expect it to be all that great going into it. I'm sort of mad that I never got around to trying it before the whole RC bust/blowup fiasco.

 

[0bfuscate]

In my experience, 2C-E magnifies tactile sensations to an incredible degree (great sex drug), while 2C-I has more of a numbing/analgesic feeling. 2C-E visuals are much more influenced by my mind than 2C-I which seems more like just a light and color show. I also experience intense synaesthesia with 2C-E between visual, aural, olfactory and tactile dimensions. 2C-I provides very little synaesthesia and only modest enhancement of music.

I'm also amazed at how strongly 2C-E effects me (and my partner) at lower doses. Last weekend, we had only 12mg and we still had intense visuals. The pine trees out our friend's window were literally dancing in time with the music. It was full open-eye fantasia, and that's on only 12mg! 20mg is compareable in intensity to the strongest Mescaline experiences I've had.

I guess some people's head are just wired differently. Or maybe there are some purity issues after all. [/B]

I just tried it for the first time over the weekend. At 11-14 mg, my partner and I were blown away. We did also smoke pot with it, but it was visually and mentally intense and I have never felt so sexual in my life.

 

[yaesutom]

I've noticed also 2c-e is a very "sexual" psychedelic for me. I mean, any dose (i prefer low end doses mostly) just...makes me damn horny... A great one to take before, well, doing a lot of fucking! %)

 

[0bfuscate]

I've noticed also 2c-e is a very "sexual" psychedelic for me. I mean, any dose (i prefer low end doses mostly) just...makes me damn horny... A great one to take before, well, doing a lot of fucking! %)

We didn't actually have full-on sex, but what we did was very nice.

 

[SpellmanT7]

The official RC market is destroyed, but at least some of these compounds will pop up in the black market.

The official RC market may be destroyed on your continent but that doesn't mean the whole market is dead worldwide.

"A whole world exists outside of your window"

 

[MrM]

I know and trust several people who find 2C-E to be some sort of crazy, intense super-psychedelic,

You don't know me, but i found 2c-e to be some sort of crazy, intense super-psychedelic. Far more than 2c-i (taken around the same dosage level) which i found boring and uninspiring.

Not that i'm suggesting you're wrong. I find it interesting that these two different chemicals can produce such opposite reactions from people.

 

[bloodpromise]

Having tried 2C-B, 2C-I and 2C-E, i must say that none of them really impressed me. On a combined trip of 2C-I and DPT with some friends i had tons of fun, but that was only after we added the DPT, as we all agreed that the 2C-I was one of the dullest thing we'd ever tried by itself. It just has no emotional depth for me, nothing to focus my mind on. I'ts just as the first poster said, like "watching a movie". 2C-E was similar, but with that compound at least i found some depth. However, this is all subjective, and i do not think it's appropriate going around telling people they're wrong in saying that it's "great" or "boring" or whatever.

 

[PlunX]

When you say that none of them impressed you, what exactly are your expectations of the drug? Perhaps you're just not taking enough. Peace.

 

[bloodpromise]

When you say that none of them impressed you, what exactly are your expectations of the drug? Perhaps you're just not taking enough. Peace.

Well, when trying 2C-I i was expecting basically what i had heard, visual enhancement, euphoria and a general "trippy" feeling i guess. I had had 2C-B before that, which i thought i was ok, extremely visual, warm and fuzzy but with a rather clear head. The last time i took 2C-I was last summer, and then i took 45 mg's, in a park, with my friends. All it gave me was extreme, overpowering hallucinations, and at the peak even delirium, i would forget how much, and what, i had taken etc.

The only phenetylamines i have really appreciated and enjoyed are DOB, mdma and, to some extent, 2C-E. The DOB was top notch, while the sheer intensity of the 2C-E visuals made it for an interresting ride.

I don't know, maybe i've just had the wrong set and setting, but most phenetylamines just doesn't do it for me. We're all different

 

[PlunX]

See, the reason that I asked this is because I myself was disappointed with most of these new phenethylamines. The only one that I really like is 2C-B. I think it became popular for a reason and all of these other phenethylamines lack certain things that I'm wanting in a psychedelic. I know that I'm not personally a phenethylamine person; I love tryptamines, my favorites being 4-HO-DET and mushrooms, and I never feel disappoiinted with them.

I think I was able to try most of the phenethylamines that reached the research market before all of this happened (in the US) and, to be honest, the only other one beside 2C-B that I thought might deserve praise was 2C-E. 2C-I, to me, was like a trip without the 'trip'. I had visual enhancement, regular 'visuals', laughter, etc. but it lacked the complete feeling of a 'trip'. On the other hand, 2C-E seems to be heavy in the sense of 'trip' and moderate in the sense of visual distortion. I dunno, I think 2C-B and 2C-E are worthwhile and the others are trash, especially 2C-I. Peace.

 

[fastandbulbous]

2C-I can only get so far

Personally, I've found that 2C-I can only take me so far, in terms of depth of introspection, and that's regardless of the dose taken. In that sense it's a bit like pethedine (demorol); while pethedine is a good painkiller, no matter how large a dose is used, there are some pain that it's not strong enough for; that when you have to use morphine instead.
2C-I will not take you as far as 2C-E or mescaline, no matter how much you take.

Last year, I made up some sterile 2C-I soln., to use in combination with ketamine in order to better recall the experience (2C-B works for this purpose, and 2C-I's not bad). I eventually decided against using it, but to predose orally, a couple of hours beforehand.
So, one sat night, I decided the time was right for a ketamine/2C-I exp (other half was at work related conference all weekend). I took 5mg of 2C-I at about 5pm, and at 7pm drew up 1ml of sterile 50mg/ml ketamine soln into a diabetic syringe for IM administration. After inj into a buttock, I lay down and waited for the ketamine to envelope me. Something was wrong, then it hit me (thought, not drug); I'd put the 25mg/ml sterile 2C-I soln into an empty vial that used to contain ketamine solution, but forgotten to relabel it. After about 30 seconds of panic I realized that I'd just injected 25mg of 2C-I on top of the 5mg oral dose. I immediately swallowed 20mg of diazepam and phoned a friend, asking if he could come to mine, as I might need his help. If the 3X potency increase gained by snorting 2C-I also holds true for IM injection, then that night I had the equivalent to an 80mg oral dose.
Visually, the effects were so strong that at times everything in my field of vision was reduced to elemental shapes (squares, triangles etc) that were vivid neon hues, and I thought I was going to do the big spit a couple of times due to the body load, but I never got anywhere near the degree of introspection/chaos produced by 12.5mg of 2C-E (although what I did get lasted for what seemed an eternity - actually about 10 hours).

So for me at least, there is a definite limit to 2C-I's effects (and I label things as soon as the contents are added ever since).

No lasting HPPD, or any other effects, so (as well as being very lucky) 2C-I does not seem to be too acutely toxic either. Had that been 2C-E, it would have ended in tears (and I'd most probably still be crying!).

That said, I wouldn't recommend that anybody repeat what I did (I still can't believe my stupidity re: re-labelling the vial)

 

[bloodpromise]

I know that I'm not personally a phenethylamine person; I love tryptamines, my favorites being 4-HO-DET and mushrooms, and I never feel disappoiinted with them.

I am certain that this is the case with me as well. The first time i ever got intoxicated with anything stronger then nicotine or alcohol was with mushrooms, out in the woods near where i live, with some friends. I know that every other experience i have with a psychedelic drug will always be in the light of that, ecstatic, first experience, but i am fairly sure that tryptamines are the family of drugs that does "it" for me. Sure, i love amphetamine, mdma, dob, but they all fall in the shade compared to my tryptamine experiences. 2C-I i can have great fun with, mixed with other drugs, but it will never be anything special by itself to me.