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War in Heaven

I guess ths was a bit much for most. I didn't realise it would be taken so seriously, I'm just used to reading a lot of all kinds of spiritual material and I just sensor out what I don't care about and focus on the things I find useful. Who it comes from doesn't really matter so much and mystics always come up with some crazy statements, anyway, I have a way to make sense of it and will explain what interested me most and might lead to some progress.

I only first heard about "The Sleeper Cell" (Also called "The Lucifer Cell") a few weeks ago. It was explained how this was a small seed of darkness that was originally implanted in humans an eternity ago, when we were in a kind of Garden of Eden state and lived a form of ideal existence where we din't make much progress, and it was something we agreed to in order to speed up our evolution and as a service to God and the universe. But it turned out it took over our nature more than anyone could have imagined and we just got worse and worse over time as we acted more out of this. It was believed that the spiritual nature of human beings would be strong enough to overcome it and the first I read of it said we just had to keep at it and work harder and we would overcome all this.

I wasn't feeling very happy about it. I thought it was far too much or we were up against too much to ever overcome it. Not only were we living hard human lives in a difficult world, we also had this seed of evil within us, that was being triggered by all the evil in the outside world, and then evil spirits in the invisible realm that were trying too tempt us, etc. It has been too much for too long and I couldn't see any end to all this. At least it could still be a long time so I didn't feel enthusiastic about this.

Anyway, last week they came back with a new channeling saying the terms had been changed, and the seed could be removed and the original contract be broken by our own will. There's a great meditation exercise in the link I provided first. I'm not sure exactly what happened, I'm a shitty clairvoyant, but I could feel some pressure in the middle of my brain and my intution says it was removed. It felt very intense and I got a glimpse of my higher self but I can't really eplain it any more than that. I would recommend everyone to try it, though, as the worst that can happen is it's just a waste of time.

There was also this clairvoyant woman with a beautiful voice who called in and descrbed what she's seen clairvoyantly. It was like a typical mystical experience or simlar to what I can experience anyway. I'll try to write it down.
 
"I wanted to describe the celebration that is going on. So at the moment when we released the cell, the sleeper cell, to our higher selves the angelic choirs began singing a song and began telling the tale of what's happening. And it's a song of celebration and announcing that we have consciously began to do this on surface Earth.

And it spread throughout the higher dimensions, and on the ships, and a cheering began accross the ships, and on the decks, and in the quarters, and everywhere. And the angels are still singing and singing the song of this new phase that you're describing. Our higher selves are celebrating, our twin flames, our families. It's everywhere and the news has spread already. And it's just the sweetest, most peaceful, excited, and joy. And there is cheering, and the song is very, very beautiful. It's a music that our hearts knows, and they're saying "Look, look, the choice has begun, it's beginning now".

This is an awaited moment, and it begins not only a new beginning for the ones who are doing it and a new moment for each of us individually, but it begins a new momentum on surface Earth. So their song starts soft and it's getting bigger and bigger. And then they start another round again and they start with "Look, it's happening". It's kind of like it's an announcement. And it's just so sweet. It's excitment, and it's an announcement, and there's so much sweetness in the sounds of it and in the release of it.

And it's so long awaited and it's being received with, not just a celebration, but there's like a knowing and a reverence. Like, together, us and them, but together, we've reached a turning-point. It's a big deal, but it's a big deal that is received with reverence. The ones who reached into their hearts and with their heart brought their heart up, and pushed out their cell, and handed it over.

In any moment, everyone who has a moment to do that, it's just going to be received with such.....the celebration will not die down. It's just going to be another, and another, like another bell ringing. Like, another sleeper cell handed their contract over."
 
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Journyman16 said:
Yeah but there is a problem. And it is one I have with almost every Religion. Holograms have nothing to do with Religions. ANY of them. Holograms are very distinctly NOT "beams of light' - they are constructs of higher 'levels' transcribed into lower levels that can be 'manifested' by... a topic for another conversation. :D
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You're still thinking in terms of shadows.
It's probably because of your religious beliefs based on holographic principle ☺
'Shadows' necessarily involve the loss of information where as a hologram doesn't.
One involves imagination and another involves information.
A hologram is created when interference of frequency and wavelength of radiation(light) is observed.
Holograms distinctly ARE how our brain determines/perceives the wavefronts of "light beams" that are focused on our retina.
The energy within these light beams/rays (which is aranged in the form of a code) is translated/converted into coded electricity that the brain then uses to make a 3-D image of light....aka hologram.
Do we see what we want to see or do we see what we are suppose to see?
This a question I find fascinating.

P.s If you think plants were genetically engineered ( which I follow your rationale BTW)
who or what engineered them?

ForEverAfter said:
That was fucking hilarious, meth.
Well done, sir!

I vote for COCKS!
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lulz...
I got a laugh and inspired by what your acronym stood for.


I guess COCKS rolls off the tongue a little easier (no pun intended...well....maybe☺)
than
RDHCGCSHRDAHRFS.
I would imagine it would draw more attention on a bumper sticker too.
 
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As much as I dislike fact I'm agreeing with Ninae ( ;) <3 Ya), this is correct (Infact Ninae has managed to produce from the froth of garbage on that site, legit stuff a few times now)

I took part in the battle on the ground.
 
I'm safe in the knowledge that everyone will agree with me in the end.

But this is my speciality. I go through endless amounts of spiritual material, because I'm always loking for something new, and just ignore what doesn't resonate with me or what I've come to believe.

Also, I'm quite telepathic by now, at least I'm completely fluent on the level of emotions, so when I hear someone's voice I can clearly tell what sort of person they are, what their intentions are, their general consciousness-level, what they really feel and think about about something, and what their ultimate aim is.
 
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If I focus I can sometimes recognise someone's "energetic signature" and also the speech patterns, syntax, vocabulary, themes they tend to bring up, and the personal traits that show in their writing. It's not that hard if you pay attention. But I need to see someone's face or hear their voice to really tell what they're like.
 
Like expected, no one would show any interest the things that really matter - or the dissolution of the dark cell and the successful battle of light over darkness.

After all, there is so much else to attend to, like paranoia about evil cult-leaders and alien monsters, there is simply no time to focus on what could be to one's benefit.

Anyway, it has now turned out to be helpful for many, and I'm sure it will for more. This was the first that was published about it:

http://www.whoneedslight.org/cm-english/2015/1/23/sananda-and-aa-michael-help-us-clear-the-way-for-ascension-with-the-hoopoopono-prayer

I didn't really take any notice at first as it just sounded like another impossible project which it would take an eternity to complete and might never come to anything.
 
ninae could i ask you some personal questions? not for mockery or judgement or anything negative just to satiate my curiosity...you can be as honest or deceptive as you like or just ignore me altogether

how old are you?
what is your race?
what is your education level?
what region of the US do you live in?
how well traveled are you?
 
I've already answeared those questions and it doesn't really matter.
 
To Birc0014: I can't see how that has any bearing on anything. Its like you wish to gain personal information to judge her with; why should she answer you? I wouldn't.

Ninae said:
Like expected, no one would show any interest the things that really matter - or the dissolution of the dark cell and the successful battle of light over darkness.

After all, there is so much else to attend to, like paranoia about evil cult-leaders and alien monsters, there is simply no time to focus on what could be to one's benefit.
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Yes, but these things that "really matter" are presented in the context of reptiles, transmissions from Jesus and some sort of galactic war. There could exist the best, most revolutionary ideas of all time within the writings you link to, but it is subsumed by the extraneous stuff. That is the fault of the author, not the audience. You've admitted that you can see how far-fetched this is so I'm sure why you are shocked at the responses in this thread.

Its like you are saying that we should really be discussing the victory of Light in this war in heaven, but the "evidence" you've presented makes most think this war is fictitious, so what is to discuss? "The dissolution of the dark cell"- I rest my case. This is impossible for most to relate to, so don't blame the audience for getting distracted by distractions.

Its not me, its you ;)
 
To Birc0014: I can't see how that has any bearing on anything. Its like you wish to gain personal information to judge her with; why should she answer you? I wouldn't.

To willow11: Well I didnt ask you now did I? Also I was pretty clear judgement wasnt an objective, if she doesnt want to answer thats fine, like I said it was purely out of curiosity.

I've already answeared those questions and it doesn't really matter

It matters to me or I wouldnt have asked, nevertheless I defer to your judgment on whether it matter to you or not.
 
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To willow11: Well I didnt ask you now did I?
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True, but I don't really care about that. Have you not responded to posts directed at others before? Its a public thread, you didn't write that privately and I wanted to say stuff :) Judgement is implicit in what you are asking TBH.
 
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willow11 said:
Yes, but these things that "really matter" are presented in the context of reptiles, transmissions from Jesus and some sort of galactic war. There could exist the best, most revolutionary ideas of all time within the writings you link to, but it is subsumed by the extraneous stuff. That is the fault of the author, not the audience.
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This is normal for modern channelers. Most of them will bring up far-fetched stuff like aliens, etc. but that doesn't mean there's nothing to take from them. I just thought there would be more used to skimming through that kind of material as it's not really that uncommon.
 
Well I was clear in stating I wasnt intending to judge so its actually the opposite of implicit, you might want to check your usage. I also felt it was clearly directed at her not you or 'publicly' so maybe you should stop making decisions for other people or assertions for moi
 
willow's response was completely justified. he/she didn't answer for Ninae, since Ninae had already provided her answer...
This is a public forum. It isn't a private conversation. I agree with willow's reaction.

Regardless of whether or not you said you weren't going to judge, it seems like you were.
Otherwise: why were you curious? (Out of curiosity.)
you can be as honest or deceptive as you like

(I'm pretty sure she lives in the UK, by the way, not the US, so the 4th question doesn't really apply.)

Ninae said:
This is normal for modern channelers.
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Well, what does that say about them?
 
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Birc said:
how old are you?
what is your race?
what is your education level?
what region of the US do you live in?
how well traveled are you?
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I sincerely try not asking questions like these on forums like this unless absolutely necessary. I don't see how these questions can do anything but conjure up sterotypes in respect.
For me, it's truly refreshing for the chance to be as free of sterotypes as possible.
 
No, I live in Norway, as I have mentioned before. But I don't see what it has to do with anything.
 
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