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War in Heaven

Because you brought it up and it was something I could remember.

People are just fascinated with that kind of thing because it's entertaining and like watching a horror show. But it has no relevance to your own spiritual development and is not what I've been listening to.
 
You brought it up. This is your thread.
Three (out of four) of the links you've provided talk about the reptilian aliens, including the one in your original post...

Forgetting that - even if I did bring it up - how was it emotional for you?
It doesn't matter if I "brought it up", or if it was "something (you) could remember"...
I mean, how does that have any bearing on your emotional reaction to something that you have no interest in and have no opinion about?

People are just fascinated with that kind of thing because it's entertaining and like watching a horror show.
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Do you think, maybe, this is why they mention it? For the sake of ratings / money?
And, if so, doesn't that make you question the integrity of everything they have to say?
 
I just remember it was an emotional show. People were crying, etc. You can go back and listen for yourself.

[video]http://www.blogtalkradio.com/channelpanel/2013/08/23/removing-all-dark-entities-from-the-planet[/video]

No, it has been completely derailed from anything I wanted to talk about, and that's obviously not possible.
 
I wasn't the one who started talking about the dark hats. I was more interested in whether the world had gone through a change and the "dark cell" stuff.

Anyway, I went through that releasing meditation and wonder if it worked, as I'm not spewing negative thoughtforms and emotions in the same way anymore. Or I still have negative impulses but I can let it go more easily instead of triggering a long chain-reaction which is very common.

This is a new concept people have only just started talking about, though.
 
You did bring up the dark hats, though... albeit, indirectly... The title of this thread is "War in Heaven", which is between the Dark Hats and the Warriors of Light... (from what I can gather from the source material... correct me, if I'm wrong.)

Anyway, let's move away from cold-blooded humanoids and headgear... what is a thoughtform?

I'm not spewing negative thoughtforms and emotions in the same way anymore. Or I still have negative impulses but I can let it go more easily instead of triggering a long chain-reaction which is very common.

This is a new concept people have only just started talking about, though.
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Is it, really? Or have they just altered some technical terms (like thoughtform) and taken credit for other people's philosophical / psychological observations.
I'm not really sure what you're talking about. I think, since what you want to discuss isn't common, you need to contextualize your statement a little better.

You seem to operating on the assumption that everyone else has read everything you have and/or that this all makes sense on the surface.
I don't know what the releasing meditation you speak of is, exactly, or what a "dark cell" / "dark seed" is, or what thoughtforms are...

"This was one of the most difficult events of our Earth history since Atlantis, and was approached with great concern that it might flare into a full-blown Galactic war if we were not extremely cautious about containing the conflict to only those we were challenging over the control of Planet Earth."

I thought this might be of interest to some, like Journeyman, and is also a more realistic outlook on the divine than the religious dogma most are pre-occupied with for some reason.
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How is it realistic (I'll avoid gravitating back to the reptiles)?
The quote in your original post says that Atlantis was not mythological...
Given there is no historical account of Atlantis, how is it (more) realistic (than the OT) to treat Atlantis as a historical event?

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If you want to generate a discussion, the people involved in the discussion need to have the necessary framework.
You can't just expect people to Google-educate themselves and post a bunch of links.
That is no way to facilitate a discussion.

And, if you don't want to discuss 4th dimensional genetically modified extra terrestrial reptiles, include a disclaimer with the link/s indicating as much. I don't know how I could possibly have predicted, prior to reading what you posted, whether or not you wanted to discuss one thing or the other.

You don't appear to have read the links very thoroughly yourself... I asked you about the dark hats, earlier, and you haven't explained who/what they are. When I asked you about the reptiles, you said you didn't remember and you just (lazily) posted another link.

I suspect, on some level, that you're trying to maintain a level of mystery surrounding this belief system, and - by extension - yourself.
But, maybe, you just haven't read the links. If you're not going to read the links that you're posting, why should anyone else read them?
You're not selling any of this very well. (No offense.)

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I get the impression (from reading your posts in various threads) that you're attracted to "fringe" belief systems, not because they're superior to mainstream belief systems but because they are - simply - not mainstream. I, honestly, don't understand how you could possibly suggest that the stuff you posted is more "realistic" than Christianity, Judaism or - indeed - Sesame Street... I suspect that you think it makes you more interesting to promote the unconventional foundations of your spiritual belief system/s, but I'm not sure that it does. You're plenty interesting without this stuff... And there are two kinds of interesting... Some things are interesting because they have substance, while others - like freak-shows - are interesting merely as a curiosity... Personally I think the stuff you're promoting falls into the latter, curiosity, category.

The reason I'm saying all this is because I care about you and I am genuinely concerned.
Subscribing to a cult is not necessarily going to kill you or cause financial ruin.
But: it's confusing; it's idolatry; and, none of it (from what I've read) is true..
 
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I'm presuming, Ninae, you mentioned me in the OP because I have posted about previous history?

I am puzzled about one thing though. I've seen channellings before and where they talk about ancient history, they always seem to have an implacable ancient foe they have or are defeating. Reptilians are common but in these they are tyhe Dark Hats who used to have control of earth and got ousted.

My puzzle is this - just when were things so bad on earth that we could lay the blame at the feet of these evil beings? Most of the view of the past that modern folk have is false, caused by the Church (mostly, there have been others) demonising everybody else and destroying/removing any evidence that other people might actually have had a decent life. The Dark Ages were not in spite of the Church but because of it, so when we look at ancient tribes and nations, we need to adjust our thinking to remember they had far more choice over their lives than we have right now - if Troy, Jericho or Ur existed unchanged for thousands of years before being destroyed, it was because the people let it be so.

Unlike us, those people had the same weapons available as their rulers - revolution was much more feasible for them. We'd be taking AK47's up against drones and cluster bombs and strike fighters and smart missiles.

So for a society to survive so long, things cannot have been as bad as the Judiacs make it out to have been. The winners always write the histories.

I'm hoping maybe you could help with the question - when were the Dark Hats and reptilians in charge of us?
 
I feel like this is a crazy debate. Reptilians? Darkhats? WTF are you guys arguing over? This is almost as bad as jeebuz vs mohambomb. Why are people so desperate to believe something existed with power over humanity? People are as kind/cruel, intelligent/ignorant, violent/passive, mindful/spiteful, etc; as they allow themselves to be. We are ultimately responsible for ourselves as a species, this is it folks! Lets dedicate some time to thinking about that and maybe moving past a bunch of outdated fucked up beliefs that are holding us back from the global orgy that awaits us. Get all them shits mixed up in a genetic blender and focus on colonizing space and getting some intergallactic pairing partners so we can roll this plan out into the infinity of the universe!!
 
*grins* Would that be the Universe that maybe doesn't actually exist? Science seems to be moving towards the idea that Consciousness is what matters - Relativity has the Observer's frame as being the definer of what is seen and experienced and Quantum Theory has the observer as causative.

It may be we are like the survivors of a shipwreck, adrift in a boat and surviving on rations - once we get to land we will suddenly have vastly expanded horizons. Investigating what may or may not have happened to cause the shipwreck would seem a good idea - wouldn't want our lifeboat to go the same way.

And while most may think we are the epitome of all humankind, the evidence suggests that what we see as our history is an extremely truncated and modified version of what really happened. Subject for a different thread, but to me, it is enough that subjects such as this current one are worth thinking about.

I am curious about the Dark hats scenario (it's a regular feature in alternative religions - Scientology is notable) but Reptilians could simply be a misunderstanding by people not Science-aware and who are trying to reconcile the various brain stages we apparently went through - the brain stem and cerebellum are called the Reptilian brain and deal with basic autonomic functions and fight/flight - it also tends to be rather rigid in that it is a stimulus/reaction system - not a lot of room for considered thought.

I wonder if it is possible that this has somehow been altered to be actual physical beings and now the meme is being used across a wide variety of alternative ideas.
 
Journyman16 said:
*grins* Would that be the Universe that maybe doesn't actually exist? Science seems to be moving towards the idea that Consciousness is what matters - Relativity has the Observer's frame as being the definer of what is seen and experienced and Quantum Theory has the observer as causative.
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Not so much the observer as observation. An electron interacting with a photon is enough to cause wave function collapse. Of course, that could imply that particles like electrons are a form of consciousness.

When you say that universe doesn't actually exist, what do you actually mean by that?

I find it interesting that matter is actually mainly nothingness, or at least discrete particles that don't neccesarily touch, leaving empty space between them, and that atoms are pretty much empty by-and-large. In that sense, I guess most of what we see is actually nothing at all...

The below is an image constructed using carbon nanotubes. It is an attempt to create the blackest black, and follows a sequence of other similar works, all being black squares. The artist is a guy name Frederik de Wilde; he states (paraphrasing) that the nanotubes are 0.01% carbon, and 99.99% air/empty space. For something that is largely nothing, it sure looks like something :):

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I find the implications intriguing.

It may be we are like the survivors of a shipwreck, adrift in a boat and surviving on rations - once we get to land we will suddenly have vastly expanded horizons. Investigating what may or may not have happened to cause the shipwreck would seem a good idea - wouldn't want our lifeboat to go the same way.
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I like that idea if thought of in a literal sense. Have you read the novel by Gene Wolfe "The Book of The Long Sun"? Essentially, it takes place on a generation starship (though the reader is not aware of this initially) where the occupants have basically forgotten they are on a ship, and have created a vast cosmology of gods and ritual in response to what are, evidently, normal functions of the spacecraft they are on. Its a fascinating idea to me :)
 
How about The Reptilian Dark-Hat Children of God (Children of Stephen Hawking) Rambling Drug Addict Harm Reduction Forum Society?
...or The RDHCGCSHRDAHRFS, for short?
 
willow11 said:
The below is an image constructed using carbon nanotubes. It is an attempt to create the blackest black, and follows a sequence of other similar works, all being black squares. The artist is a guy name Frederik de Wilde; he states (paraphrasing) that the nanotubes are 0.01% carbon, and 99.99% air/empty space. For something that is largely nothing, it sure looks like something :):

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I find the implications intriguing.
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Some butterfly wings have vivid colour but contain no pigment at all. Instead they have microstructures that trap light and release only a specific blue/green or others.
willow11 said:
Not so much the observer as observation. An electron interacting with a photon is enough to cause wave function collapse. Of course, that could imply that particles like electrons are a form of consciousness.

When you say that universe doesn't actually exist, what do you actually mean by that?

I find it interesting that matter is actually mainly nothingness, or at least discrete particles that don't neccesarily touch, leaving empty space between them, and that atoms are pretty much empty by-and-large. In that sense, I guess most of what we see is actually nothing at all...
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There is a steadily growing evidence that the Universe not only isn't really there at Planck lengths - (one string theory proposes perhaps rolled up branes that appear and disappear in Planck times, another proposes one end of a string might be attached to give one kind of effect for us and others might have both ends attached - one has to question just where the rest of the string might be) or that almost everything is nothing at all - (what IS there between a proton and an electron? Pauli space? de Sitter lattice? the Aether?) - but that it is a hologram.

The densest information possible in our universe is that which exists in the event horizon of a Black Hole - (for the moment let's presume they exist, because the SMC includes them :D) and it is described in 2D, not 3D. In fact the point at which the densest possible information turns from 3D (imagine 3D super computer chips piled together) to 2D is right at the mass a star can collapse into a BH.

Another piece of evidence is from the LIGO jitter problem - LIGO is an instrument to measure putative Gravity waves suggested by Relativity. In trying to compensate for all possible interference they found there was jitter they couldn't identify nor remove. It happens to be the exact value that Planck lengths would become if the Universe is a hologram 'painted' in 2D out at the boundary.

Lots of speculation, but that's what I mean by maybe the universe isn't there at all.

And a question I haven't seen ANYBODY ask - if the universe IS a hologram, of what is it a hologram? Holograms are lesser dimensional versions of something. Princess Leia existed and while her hologram looked real it wasn't solid - holograms are imitations. What is our universe imitating?
willow11 said:
I like that idea if thought of in a literal sense. Have you read the novel by Gene Wolfe "The Book of The Long Sun"? Essentially, it takes place on a generation starship (though the reader is not aware of this initially) where the occupants have basically forgotten they are on a ship, and have created a vast cosmology of gods and ritual in response to what are, evidently, normal functions of the spacecraft they are on. Its a fascinating idea to me :)
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It is more fascinating than you might realise.

The major grains in use around the world are very strange. Not only are they unusual for their type, they are genetically strange as well. Rice wheat and corn strongly suggest somebody engineered them. Grasses (of which they are a type) propagate by having animals eat their seeds and pass them out into a nice nutrient-rich pile of poo. Of what possible evolutionary advantage could it be for a grass to produce nutrient packages that get consumed in the gut?

While talking about propagation, think of bananas. Found on every continent, they need to be propagated. A banana floating across an ocean will not cause a new plantation, it has to be a cutting and planted. Yet they are on every land mass and have been since before there were men that we know of. Who planted them?

These things suggest to me somebody was getting emergency rations together. They knew things would be tough after a major cataclysm and developed foods that would keep us alive till the normal ecosystem re-established. A lot of our health problems come because grains are now a major part of our diet and we are not suited to them.

Like lifeboat passengers who get home and stay on hard tack for years - what got us through the hard times is not enough to keep us healthy forever.

*grins* and this is all WAY off topic... :D
 
FEA said:
How about The Reptilian Dark-Hat Children of God (Children of Stephen Hawking) Rambling Drug Addict Harm Reduction Forum Society?
...or The RDHCGCSHRDAHRFS, for short
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Birc0014 said:
I dont hate it
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Wow, that's a mouthful ( cue that's what she said joke)

How about Children Of Confused Kindred Spirits
or...The COCKS for short.
Just think Birc, you could be the the supreme head of the cult.
That would make you the chief COCKS- head. ?
(cue that's what he said joke)
only teasing BTW...
willzlow said:
The artist is a guy name Frederik de Wilde; he states (paraphrasing) that the nanotubes are 0.01% carbon, and 99.99% air/empty space. For something that is largely nothing, it sure looks like something
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Shouldn't be too suprising,
everything we see is 99.9 percent "nothing."
Crazy...

J-Man said:
And a question I haven't seen ANYBODY ask - if the universe IS a hologram, of what is it a hologram? Holograms are lesser dimensional versions of something. Princess Leia existed and while her hologram looked real it wasn't solid - holograms are imitations. What is our universe imitating?
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I think you are thinking in terms of shadows.
Holograms are beams of light.
We and everything we see are beams/waves of coded light being executed at the hands/mouth of the Almighty programmer. (Yes, this would be my opinion)
 
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How about Children Of Confused Kindred Spirits
or...The COCKS for short.
Just think Birc, you could be the the supreme head of the cult.
That would make you the chief COCKS- head.
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That was fucking hilarious, meth.
Well done, sir!

I vote for COCKS!
 
methamaniac said:
I think you are thinking in terms of shadows.
Holograms are beams of light.
We and everything we see are beams/waves of coded light being executed at the hands/mouth of the Almighty programmer. (Yes, this would be my opinion)
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Yeah but there is a problem. And it is one I have with almost every Religion. Holograms have nothing to do with Religions. ANY of them. Holograms are very distinctly NOT "beams of light' - they are constructs of higher 'levels' transcribed into lower levels that can be 'manifested' by... a topic for another conversation. :D
 
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