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CutHere said:
The key point which seems to hard to get through is that the tables haven't turn on the people who committed the acts you described above. They've turned on a whole community -- many of whom are innocent. But you seem to be ok with targeting innocent people because they share the same racial background as some of the people who committed despicable acts. You seem to be ok with generalising the actions of a few to a whole community.

You're no better than the racist gangs who you described in your post.

if the idea was to turn on the whole community why meet at cronulla
not bankstown??????
 
CutHere fails to see the point and according to him/her everyone is a racist if they agree that it was time for someone to stand up and tell them to fuck off.
 
standing up and telling someone to fuck off is understating the situation a little, wouldn't you agree?

that would be on par to me suggesting middle eastern people who incite violence in the area were simply 'making it known that they live there too'

euphemisms don't serve any purpose except to sugar coat the truth. accept what you're defending keystroke - unmitigated violence.
 
Zero the hero, I wasn't referring to you as giving Australia a bad name. I was referring to the moron mob. It just so happened that your post was above mine, so it seemed like I was reply to you. My apologies, I should have clarified.

I can see WHY it happened too, but I don't agree with how it's being handled (ie: the local mob).

I can see why "What makes it Ok for us to do it?" sounds racist. Once again, my apologies. I should of re-worded that. I'm far from racist. The amount of racism in this thread actually makes me quite angry, so I'll leave it at that, before I write something else that can be mis-interpreted.
 
I cant be bothered going through all the pages of argument but I know two of the three lifeguards that got bashed last weekend. They are 17 year old boys who just finished year 12 and volunteer down at Cronulla because they enjoy the surf and being able to help people. Two of them rescued a young middle-eastern girl from the surf and were set upon by the group of 20 guys accusing them of 'handling her inappropriately'. The third boy jumped in only after one of the other 2 was down so badly he couldnt move. He is still in hospital over a week later.
 
Mary Poppins said:
standing up and telling someone to fuck off is understating the situation a little, wouldn't you agree?

that would be on par to me suggesting middle eastern people who incite violence in the area were simply 'making it known that they live there too'

euphemisms don't serve any purpose except to sugar coat the truth. accept what you're defending keystroke - unmitigated violence.


I accept what I'm defending, that middle eastern gangs have terrorised a local suburb for far too long and now they are getting what they've given. sure, innocent bystanders might of gotten in the way unfortunately, there should be plenty of warnings now to stay away. I am defending the locals, because no one else has bothered with their complaints for the past 10 years.

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Look, it's pretty obvious that keystroke thinks violence against minorities is funny. Let's not let him run this discussion anymore and get on with it ok?

Don't feed the troll.
 
keystroke said:
I accept what I'm defending, that middle eastern gangs have terrorised a local suburb for far too long and now they are getting what they've given. sure, innocent bystanders might of gotten in the way unfortunately, there should be plenty of warnings now to stay away.

dude, how many gangs were assaulted? from all media reports it was "gangs" consisting of around two people. one as seen in the photographs as being female and not looking at all like a banger.

plenty of warnings to whom? you've answered those 2 questions asked. i've read every post. you're a hypocrite, more than likely a racist too.
 
when was the last time you went swimming at Cronulla beach silvia saint?

how many innocent people were assaulted last night? a guy was stabbed and the two girls were told they were about to be gang raped for fuck sake...


beatlebot said:
Look, it's pretty obvious that keystroke thinks violence against minorities is funny.

as I've said before, read every post before making a comment, I said that the ethnic gangs deserved it, not innocent bystanders. try fucking reading.
 
sure, innocent bystanders might of gotten in the way unfortunately,

Yeah I guess it must just be their fault for being in the way of an angry mob. Look, one Italian man was basically chased into the police station because he looked Arab, come on! Can you honestly say that you want mob rule?

I have been reading, and you seem to think that it's nothing that innocent people get hurt as long as they are not white. I've also seen you make light of a very serious situation. You did the same thing in the Van Nguyen thread and it's offensive.
Do you really think these 'lebanese gangs' or whatever are going to run away into hiding over this? They have nowhere to go and cornering them is only going to make them more vicious while it increases the divisions in the rest of the community.
 
Beatlebot said:
Yeah I guess it must just be their fault for being in the way of an angry mob. Look, one Italian man was basically chased into the police station because he looked Arab, come on! Can you honestly say that you want mob rule?

I have been reading, and you seem to think that it's nothing that innocent people get hurt as long as they are not white. I've also seen you make light of a very serious situation. You did the same thing in the Van Nguyen thread and it's offensive.
Do you really think these 'lebanese gangs' or whatever are going to run away into hiding over this? They have nowhere to go and cornering them is only going to make them more vicious while it increases the divisions in the rest of the community.


it's not their 'fault' for being in the way of a major protest, it's the fault of the hundreds of ethnic gang members that decided to take it upon themselves to attack, abuse, harass, mollest and rob the regular beach locals over the span of at least 10 years. it's their fault, if you can read, you'd of noticed how I've said countless times that it's unfortunate that people went overboard and innocent people were hurt, but what the fuck do you think people are meant to do? stand around and let the ethnic gangs terrorise the suburbs for another 10 years? hell no, they have had enough and are prepared to do ANYTHING it takes to stop the violence. why can't you see that? oh, that's right, probably because you've never grown up on the beaches there, you haven't seen it deteriorate from a nice family location to a haven for ethnic crime.

I suppose you think it's okay for them to retaliate and stab someone on a golf course while telling his female companions they are going to pack rape her, that's awesome, isn't it? according to you, it's okay because the police have done absolutely NOTHING in ten fucking YEARS. why the fuck would the local community try and even bother to report anything to them now when they have been ignored for the last 10 years for the same things?


as I have said earlier, it's unfortunate that innocent bystanders get caught up in this but by now they have had enough warnings to stay away from the troubled areas and I believe that these ethnic gangs get what they fucking well deserve - that is an absolute hiding by a bunch of people that have had to endure years of relentless abuse and torture.


(and why is it that everyone has to bring Van Nugget into this thread? he brought the trouble onto himself, the poor lifeguards at cronulla did nothing wrong, they didn't bring any trouble to themselves other than save a poor girl that couldn't swim, Van Nugget deserved the death penalty because he accepted that as his punishment when he entered singapore, *edit* not necessary)
 
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The mob attacked police. They forced two girls to the gound and threw bottles at them. They were fucking pigs.

Don't ever try and justify it as "standing up for themselves" or "the community" because its not. They took the law in to their own hands and violently beat innocent people. They "stoned" girls. They were a racist violent mob. I deplore the acts of both the "middle eastern" and "caucasian" gangs. They are really no different -- a bunch of people breaking the law assaulting innocent people. Very un-Australian.

I hope they all end up in prison and I applaud the efforts of the Police force in identifying and arresting those involved.
 
keystroke said:
so fuck the ethnic gangs, they deserve to be beaten to a pulp, they are the fucking scum of australia and they can only 'fight' when it's 10 on 1 (the 1 being a 15 year old)

Yeah! Fuck the two girls who were forced to the ground then pelted with bottles. Fuck the defensless guy cornered on a car and bashed up by a drunken mob. Fuck the ambulance workers who were hit in the head with bottles. Fuck the police who were injured.

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CutHere said:
Don't ever try and justify it as "standing up for themselves" or "the community" because its not. They took the law in to their own hands and violently beat innocent people. They "stoned" girls. They were a racist violent mob. I deplore the acts of both the "middle eastern" and "caucasian" gangs. They are really no different -- a bunch of people breaking the law assaulting innocent people. Very un-Australian.

I was gonna stay out of this thread, but I have to give this the thumbs up, forming a riotous mob makes them no better, nay infact worse than the people that allegedly started all this...
 
keystroke said:
CutHere fails to see the point and according to him/her everyone is a racist if they agree that it was time for someone to stand up and tell them to fuck off.

Can you comprehend that bashing up innocent people is not "standing up for yourself"? Can you comprehend that you have no right to tell middle eastern looking Australians (or any Australian) to "fuck off" or be bashed up?
 
keystroke said:
but what the fuck do you think people are meant to do? stand around and let the ethnic gangs terrorise the suburbs for another 10 years? hell no, they have had enough and are prepared to do ANYTHING it takes to stop the violence. why can't you see that?

Frankly I can understand vigilante justice when the police aren't doing their jobs. Now I'm not saying it's right, but I understand it.

But that's not really what happened here is it? Some yobs drinking to excess at a peaceful protest got out of hand and then everything went to shit and people there were exposed for the racists fucks they are. Did people take the time to search out the culprits for last weeks bashing? No, they got drunk and took it out on anyone around them who looked vaguely arab. Innocent people were set on and attacked, and what's your justification for that? That innocent people have been set on and attacked.

Think about it.
 
Beatlebot said:
Did people take the time to search out the culprits for last weeks bashing?

The reason they didn't is because the local police made a breakthrough and arrested those believed involved. Those who were assaulted yesterday had nothing to do with the lifeguard incident -- something keystroke and the angry mob conveniently ignore when they try and justify the hate crimes.
 
CutHere said:
Can you comprehend that bashing up innocent people is not "standing up for yourself"? Can you comprehend that you have no right to tell middle eastern looking Australians (or any Australian) to "fuck off" or be bashed up?


as I've stated a NUMBER OF TIMES now, innocent people were hurt and that's the worst part about this entire ordeal. but it's every cronulla locals right to tell the ethnic gangs to fuck off, that they aren't wanted and that the local citizens will enforce their rights to make sure that these gangs frequent the beach no more.

you seem to miss the point that gangs have terrorised an entire local community of more than 50,000 people for far too long and now no one is going to put up with it any longer. so yes, FUCK the ethnic, Australian hating arseholes. If Australia and it's citizens are such bad people, you're more than welcome to get back on a tin can, or boat, or whatever, and fuck off back to where you came from. Because no one here wants to deal with ethnicity wars, violence or crimes against differing cultures because that's what is "the norm" back at home.

either deal with the Australian culture, it's laws and it's people or get the fuck out, it's not fair to bring your troubles and violence here and then expect that everyone in Australia should learn to deal with the differing culture. either you learn to deal with it, or you leave.
 
keystroke said:
either deal with the Australian culture, it's laws and it's people or get the fuck out.

I couldn't agree more. Anyone who took the law in to their own hands should get the fuck out of my country.
 
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