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Diacetylus said:
Ahh, ok. So, then because a 15 year old aussie lifequard was bashed by a few arabs, it's ok for all the aussies to go around bashing the shit out of any arab in sight around Sydney?

Err, not to condone the morons (from both sides) but the bashings/robbings/etc has been going on in that area for the past 2-3 years. This was not a one off thing that has made a lot of very pissed off people 'rise together'. To all the other idiots who have joined in thinking it's a bit of a lark or whatever, they are pathetic.
 
exactly...

this is the problem, no one knows the REAL history of it all, its something that has been brewing for years in crounulla not 2-3 ... more like 10-15...

I had another argument about this last night with someone, and someone that has lived in the shire said, it was NEVER EVER really a racial thing, it was a cultral/respect thing.

The media made a feast out of it, and turned it into a racist thing, i wouldnt be surprised if it was the fuckin media that started the first bunch of sms's that went around, just to keep the fire going...
 
0ff1cer_ch0ps said:
i wouldnt be surprised if it was the fuckin media that started the first bunch of sms's that went around, just to keep the fire going...

Yeah and I bet the holocaust never happened either.. 8(
 
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0ff1cer_ch0ps said:
The media made a feast out of it, and turned it into a racist thing, i wouldnt be surprised if it was the fuckin media that started the first bunch of sms's that went around, just to keep the fire going...


THAT wouldnt surprise me either to be honest. I dont think we will ever know. The commercial media industry is built on lies and deciet. You would be clever at covering your tracks too if you did it for a living.
 
^ Are you serious? I don't have a lot of regard for the mainstream media as they are generally too quick to sensationalise a story which they quite often haven't researched properly.

But to think they would purposely try and incite a race riot just for some good stories is really taking any conspiracy theory a bit too far.
 
Doodle said:
But to think they would purposely try and incite a race riot just for some good stories is really taking any conspiracy theory a bit too far.
Not really. In this day and age of profits above everything else, why wouldn't they do something like this? I'm sure there would be at least one cut throat journo' who would be prepared to give it a go - especially if they had rascist leanings.

It's a good thing you still have faith in humanity, doodle, it's just that I don't :\
 
to the fact that the media chan 7/chan 9/chan 10/sky news had about i dont know, 5 cars each there at the crack of dawn and have been camped out there for the last week doesnt help...

Its funny how/why that first message for the "Aussies" to gather at cronulla go out to the media?
 
When it begins with violence, naturally it ends with violence. Fuck we're stuck in a loop aren't we? :P It seems the nature of mankind as a whole is one that perpetuates conflict in such a vulgar manner. There are some people who are aware and clued on enough to see past it, to break away from this loop. Unfortunately there isn't enough consensus on this :/

Peace Out...seriously :P
 
0ff1cer_ch0ps said:
I had another argument about this last night with someone, and someone that has lived in the shire said, it was NEVER EVER really a racial thing, it was a cultral/respect thing.

The media made a feast out of it, and turned it into a racist thing, i wouldnt be surprised if it was the fuckin media that started the first bunch of sms's that went around, just to keep the fire going...

Man the random beating of people with a certain ethnic look + the flag waving goons is what turned it into a racial thing. I'm sure the media didn't help the matter but you can't blame it entirely on the media.

It certainly wasn't a cultural reason which led to the targeting of specific people both in the original riots and in the retaliatory ones, it was skin colour.
 
FORGET Clover Moore as the Grinch of Sydney's Christmas. The "Lions of Lebanon" with their Glock pistols and Molotov cocktails have put her to shame this holy season. While the NSW police lock down entire beachfront suburbs, instruct stores to stop selling baseball bats, and apply the full force of the law to pasty-faced nerds with a taste for Nazi literature, they continue to cower from the real hardmen, the Lebanese-Australian criminal gangs of Sydney's south-west who have ruled the roost in this city for at least a decade and now number in their thousands.

So when parents and children attending Christmas carols on Monday night, December 12, at St Joseph the Worker Primary School in South Auburn were abused and spat on by "young men of Middle Eastern appearance", there were no police to protect them. Not even when the sounds of gunshots echoed inside the church, and parked cars were pumped full of bullets. "Police were called by a number of parents and the principal, but they were unable to attend because they were needed elsewhere," said Cardinal George Pell in a statement.

The police were busy that night - Sydney's mini Kristallnacht "night of the broken glass" - as carloads of men drove east from Lakemba and Punchbowl to systematically attack whole streets of parked cars with bats and machetes. Identified by police as being of the proverbial Middle-Eastern appearance - code for Lebanese Muslim, despite the fact many are second-generation Australians - they also stabbed a man, smashed a woman's head with a bat, attacked another woman in a pizza shop and a man who was putting out his rubbish.

They were extracting revenge for the riot the day before on Cronulla beach when a protest against continuing intimidation of beachgoers by thugs described as Lebanese turned ugly and drunken racists attacked passers-by suspected of being "Lebs".

The retaliation from the gangs of the south-west was a calculated show of strength, with victims reportedly being asked if they were "Australian" before being attacked. Over the next 24 hours another three churches in Sydney's south-west were attacked.

With police unable to guarantee safety, Holy Spirit College at Lakemba cancelled its carols service. Other schools in the south-west cancelled concerts and end-of-year presentations or hired security guards.

Thus the lead-up to Christmas this year has been notable for a rash of cancellations of traditional yuletide activities. The North Cronulla surf carnival was called off. As was the Bondi Surf Bathers Life Saving Club's annual Christmas cheer party, and a carols concert expected to draw 3000 people to Coogee beach.

Rather than a problem of race, religion or multiculturalism, Sydney is suffering from a longstanding crime problem. It is a textbook case of how soft policing and lenient magistrates embolden successive waves of criminals, infecting other people who might otherwise have been law-abiding.

The roots of the problem can be traced back to Telopea Street, Punchbowl, in 1998 when a Korean schoolboy, Edward Lee, 14, was stabbed to death because he went to the wrong house for a birthday party and looked at the wrong people in the wrong way. He didn't know that a notorious group of extended Lebanese-Muslim families, descended from the lawless hill tribes of Northern Lebanon, lived in Telopea Street.

When police arrived they were surrounded and intimidated by about 100 people. For two years they seemed incapable of solving the crime, despite at least 20 witnesses.

Lee's mother, Soobin, searching for clues to the death of her only child, went doorknocking in Telopea Street and the inhabitants laughed in her face. His father took to sleeping on top of his son's grave and weeping.

Eventually a youth, who was 15 at the time of the stabbing, was charged with Lee's killing. In 2003, the youth, who had said "f---ing Asian deserved it" after the stabbing, was sentenced to a maximum of 10 years in jail. His friend, now-jailed triple murderer Michael Kanaan, received a three-year sentence for being an accessory after the fact.

But Lee's killing had brought unwanted police attention to Telopea Street's criminal activities, which included drugs and car rebirthing rackets. Soon Lakemba police station was attacked with machine-gun fire, death threats were made to police on their radio network and a police car was shot at as it travelled down Telopea Street. Kanaan was acquitted this year of the attack on the police station, which prosecutors said was to teach police a lesson for "hassling Lebanese people". An alleged accomplice skipped bail and was arrested in Lebanon on terrorism charges. No one has been brought to justice over the attack.

The police commissioner of the time, Peter Ryan, talked tough and did little.

Seven years later, the police are still running scared.

Last week, Channel Seven reported it had obtained a police incident report instructing police officers to stay away from Punchbowl Park that Monday night, where a group of men were congregating before heading to Maroubra.

The report said "a direction was given to police about midnight not to enter the area and antagonise these persons".

The Police Minister, Carl Scully, told reporters he defended the decision not to confront the group. Superintendent John Richardson was quoted saying a car crew sent to Punchbowl Park, where 10 cars and 40 men had gathered, was "ordered to withdraw and observe from afar. There was no trouble and sending police in would only cause trouble."

Setting the example of an astonishing lack of nerve, the Premier, Morris Iemma, told Sydneysiders to stay away from the beach for safety and then cancelled his Christmas media reception which had been scheduled for last Wednesday night. He appeared in every media appearance like a rabbit frozen in the spotlight, perhaps frightened of alienating Lebanese Muslims in his electorate of Lakemba.

That Iemma's electorate is at war with former premier Bob Carr's former electorate of Maroubra is a handy synchronicity. It highlights the ALP's long-term culpability in creating the monster that is plaguing the city, its history of ethnic branch-stacking and "whatever it takes" tactics to shore up support in the heartland electorates of the south-west, its policy of spin and cover-up which is at last coming undone.

As one passenger last week told taxi driver Adrian Neylan, who has chronicled the violence on his weblog, "the gangs have won".

Indeed they have, but the recent display of official cowardice in the face of the criminal gangs of Sydney's south-west is just a taste of the way Sydney has been run for a decade.

 
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