violence in cronulla - a recreation of... (MERGED)

[silvia saint]

oc, just thought you may like some porn for bedtime.

horse1: should we trample them? horse2: nah, fuck it. let's go for a dip instead, they're just patriotic larikans who've had a few too many.

horse2: see this is much better and besides, there's an anti-globalization rally next week. horse1: fucking hippies and their just causes.

i bet he stole that bottle of water and his companion is guilty by association. cops are arresting him and her whilst water bill paying residents voice their outrage after dam levels fall.

 

[m4dd0g]

*sigh*

any moron can react, get angry, and perpetuate the cycle

it takes an enormity of spirit to swallow your pettiness and do what right, as opposed to what will make you feel better

/hippy ministry

 

[quiet roar]

Keystroke and Off_chops, nobody is defending the leb gangs' behaviour but yet you two are defending the redneck behaviour; please answer these questions for me:

1) Do you condone the bashing of innocents because they look (or even are) middle eastern?

2) Do you believe middle eastern appearing folk should be banned from Cronulla beach?

If you answered yes, I really have nothing further to say to you. If you answered no, how can you then justify those actions?

I would be 100% behind the bashing of "gangs" that are causing trouble but why is it that only a couple of easy targets were the ones bashed yesterday? Why didn't they travel to Bankstown to exact their revenge? That cowardice that the gangs are so famous for appears to be alive and well amongst the rednecks.

 

[Zero the hero]

I'm Australian and I don't want my country turning in to a shithole. Any angry mob of 5000 Australians attacking other Australians, attacking ambulance workers and attacking women IS my concern. So get fucked if you're gonna try and tell me otherwise.

This is Australia and as an Australian I have a right to feel safe ANYWHERE in Australia. I have a right to go to any fucking beach I want. Don't you dare try and tell me otherwise.

How about, I live in Australia, and I don't want this country turned into a shithole. Angry, violent groups of Australians intimidating and attacking other Australians, attacking volunteer life guards and gang raping women is MY concern... What's the difference between what I just said and what you just said?

The people who live in this area also have the right to feel safe anywhere in Australia, especially in their own community, that's not been possible in that area for a number of years now because of these thugs, people finally got sick of it and this is what happened, right or wrong can't you see WHY it happened?

 

[xcidium]

Scenario:
If a couple of Lebanese youths got bashed in lets say a heavily populated white suburb, which lead to the Lebanese people rioting in the streets, would you blame them for rioting?

Of course you would. What makes it Ok for us to do it?
Abso-fucking-lutley nothing.

I'm sorry, but you give Australian's a bad name.

 

[CutHere]

How about, I live in Australia, and I don't want this country turned into a shithole. Angry, violent groups of Australians intimidating and attacking other Australians, attacking volunteer life guards and gang raping women is MY concern... What's the difference between what I just said and what you just said?

The people who live in this area also have the right to feel safe anywhere in Australia, especially in their own community, that's not been possible in that area for a number of years now because of these thugs, people finally got sick of it and this is what happened, right or wrong can't you see WHY it happened?

The difference is I'm not justifying what the "middle eastern" gangs do. But you're justifying what this mob did.

 

[keystroke]

Keystroke and Off_chops, nobody is defending the leb gangs' behaviour but yet you two are defending the redneck behaviour; please answer these questions for me:

1) Do you condone the bashing of innocents because they look (or even are) middle eastern?

2) Do you believe middle eastern appearing folk should be banned from Cronulla beach?

If you answered yes, I really have nothing further to say to you. If you answered no, how can you then justify those actions?

I would be 100% behind the bashing of "gangs" that are causing trouble but Why didn't they travel to Bankstown to exact their revenge? That cowardice that the gangs are so famous for appears to be alive and well amongst the rednecks.

go back and read every post and you'll have your questions answered, I'm sick of having to repeat myself to people that can't be bothered reading the last few pages of a thread.

why is it that only a couple of easy targets were the ones bashed yesterday?

because the 'gangs' were too fucking gutless to turn up, they knew they were about to be cop a flogging, the ones that did turn up to cause trouble had their car windows kicked and smashed in.

 

[CutHere]

Originally Posted by quiet roar
Keystroke and Off_chops, nobody is defending the leb gangs' behaviour but yet you two are defending the redneck behaviour; please answer these questions for me:

1) Do you condone the bashing of innocents because they look (or even are) middle eastern?

2) Do you believe middle eastern appearing folk should be banned from Cronulla beach?

If you answered yes, I really have nothing further to say to you. If you answered no, how can you then justify those actions?

I would be 100% behind the bashing of "gangs" that are causing trouble but Why didn't they travel to Bankstown to exact their revenge? That cowardice that the gangs are so famous for appears to be alive and well amongst the rednecks.

go back and read every post and you'll have your questions answered, I'm sick of having to repeat myself to people that can't be bothered reading the last few pages of a thread.

Here quite roar, I'll save you some time:

1. yes, keystroke does. They "brought it on themselves"
2. yes, keystroke does. The locals are sick of them.

 

[CutHere]

Every single person in this picture should be arrested and charged with aggravated assault. Some with attempted murder.

 

[keystroke]

Scenario:
If a couple of Lebanese youths got bashed in lets say a heavily populated white suburb, which lead to the Lebanese people rioting in the streets, would you blame them for rioting?

Of course you would. What makes it Ok for us to do it?
Abso-fucking-lutley nothing.

I'm sorry, but you give Australian's a bad name.

the only people that give Australia a bad name are the people that vote for this cowardly government that takes a softly-softly approach to everything

if the Police had stopped the 'gang' trouble when it began years ago this would not even be an issue, but they did absolutely NOTHING to prevent it and it's raging now 10 years later.


it's sad when the local surfers of a suburb have to defend the suburb because the police wont do a damn thing about it.

 

[keystroke]

Every single person in this picture should be arrested and charged with aggravated assault.

I think the guy with the army hat is just upset that his kebab had beef on it instead of chicken...

 

[joannie_mhm]

what a tops ad for carlton draught there

 

[CutHere]

because the 'gangs' were too fucking gutless to turn up, they knew they were about to be cop a flogging, the ones that did turn up to cause trouble had their car windows kicked and smashed in.

I wouldn't call it "gutless" to not want to take on a mob of 5000 racist pigs. I'd call it gutless to attack innocent people from a gang of 5000 people.

 

[Mary Poppins]

keystroke, i'd like to know what political party you align yourself with?

i voted Liberal, but i still think that the views I espouge are exponentially more tolerant and socially aware than your own.

the only meaning i can deduce from your remark that it's the people who voted in the 'soft' (something i'm sure many would argue against...including myself) Howard government, is that you would vote for a more 'hard' party such as Family First or One Nation, because I'll be damned if you strike me as a left voter.

 

[CutHere]

it's sad when the local surfers of a suburb have to defend the suburb because the police wont do a damn thing about it.

They are not "defending a suburb". They are attacking people based on WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE. They are throwing bottles at the heads of ambulance workers who try and help them. They are breaking AUSTRALIAN LAWS.

 

[xcidium]

the only people that give Australia a bad name are the people that vote for this cowardly government that takes a softly-softly approach to everything

if the Police had stopped the 'gang' trouble when it began years ago this would not even be an issue, but they did absolutely NOTHING to prevent it and it's raging now 10 years later.


it's sad when the local surfers of a suburb have to defend the suburb because the police wont do a damn thing about it.

Way to go, avoiding the point of my post. 8)

 

[CutHere]

keystroke, i'd like to know what political party you align yourself with?

i voted Liberal, but i still think that the views I espouge are exponentially more tolerant and socially aware than your own.

the only meaning i can deduce from your remark that it's the people who voted in the 'soft' (something i'm sure many would argue against...including myself) Howard government, is that you would vote for a more 'hard' party such as Family First or One Nation, because I'll be damned if you strike me as a left voter.

...I think keystroke was talking about state government. But I wouldn't be surprised to find him campaigning to bring Pauline Hanson back.

 

[keystroke]

what a tops ad for carlton draught there

I was thinking the same thing :D

 

[Zero the hero]

Both of you can gobble me...

The difference is I'm not justifying what the "middle eastern" gangs do. But you're justifying what this mob did.

*edit* unecessary
I'm justifying it am I? Bullshit, where? When? What I've been saying is that I can see WHY it happened, can YOU see the difference between that and “justifying what the mob did”?

Scenario:
If a couple of Lebanese youths got bashed in lets say a heavily populated white suburb, which lead to the Lebanese people rioting in the streets, would you blame them for rioting?

Of course you would. What makes it Ok for us to do it?
Abso-fucking-lutley nothing.

I'm sorry, but you give Australian's a bad name.

You missed the point, it wasn’t simply an isolated incident, this sort of shit has being going on for years in that area, it became a racial issue because they made it one, you can like it or lump it, but that’s just the way it is.

When did I “blame” anyone for what happened? When did I say it was “ok” for a mob to set upon people of different racial groups? Never, that’s when. Again, I simply said that I can see WHY it happened, if you can’t, or if you’re so fuckin’ pathetically PC that you refuse to, that’s your problem. By the way, how exactly do I give Australians a “bad name”?

Who’s this “us” you’re referring to anyway? Are you saying they’re different to you because of the color of their skin? Hmm…Sounds suspiciously racist to me…

 

[keystroke]

for someone I've never really agreed with, Zero, you sure are making some spot on points in this thread.

welcome to aus social :D