the responses in this thread really surprised/educated me. Like I said, every user I know loves opiates, benzos, marijuana, and alcohol (and I must admit they will do coke if offered, but don't really prefer it), and none of them really like amphetamines, rc stimulants, or MDMA. Interesting...
Upper vs. Downer People
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2c-goinsane
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iv noticed people switch up want they like/want at times. i do there's purposes for everything imo really so 1 week i might want some morphine or xanax and then the next week i might want to go up just depends on how im feeling/setting/who im using with/whens the last time i used that particular drug etc. i like good cocaine/mdxx compounds but not to often shit tears me up but so does benzos/opiates. my main doc's are dissociatives and psychedelics/cannabis.
Heroic
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I got really sick from every opoid I tried, felt very good but vomitted my brains afterwards. Uppers are basically my drug of choice, some even relax me more than they speed me up, especially mdma and 4-mmc, when I sit down and relax it almost feels like I can fall asleep. Guess thats how my brain works.
Oh I love mdma, and the rest of the stims really, but there aren't that many activities you can put that much energy into... at least not without looking absolutely ridiculous. Also I physically cannot sleep until the next night after dosing and even then it is difficult to. And then there's the serotonin problems - you obviously can't take mdma every other day and enjoy it equally immediately or on a longer timescale.
I'm not much a fan of analgesics either, mxe basically makes me unable to feel anything (which I don't really like much) so anything more anaesthesising (sp?) than that I can't imagine would be nice.
Also, hate smoking/vaping. Not sure why but I just don't like it. Cannabis is nearly always out of the question, and I guess DMT to an extent. Maybe I should stop being picky...
Dr. Rabid
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I don't usually enjoy the feeling of being weak and incapacitated on downers, so it's mostly stimulants for me. I still drink and blaze, and will only do opiates if I really need to mellow the fuck out.
Pill2Chill
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MXE isn't an analgesic but a dissociative anesthetic. Analgesics are painkillers like opiates.
Anyway, I wouldn't write off dissociatives because you don't like MXE. It's not that much fun really, ketamine is far superior. But ofcourse it's up to you whether or not you'd like to try that.
I like most drugs. I do uppers more frequently, but only because they're easier to get. I would be REALLY into ketamine if I had a more consistent connect.
MissNervosa
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I'm diagnosed major depressive disorder which makes me over eat,over sleep,and generally makes me slow and grumpy-so uppers are fantastic for me,I feel more alive on them.
I'm also diagnosed with panic disorder so downers feel blissful and let me relax.
I had a bit too much speed the other night,and felt really tense and had a sore jaw,so popped a Xanax.What a great combo! Plenty of energy and euphoria but a chilled out energy rather than a manic one
So I enjoy both,just depends on what mood I'm in,or what mood I want to be in.
I'm also diagnosed with panic disorder so downers feel blissful and let me relax.
I had a bit too much speed the other night,and felt really tense and had a sore jaw,so popped a Xanax.What a great combo! Plenty of energy and euphoria but a chilled out energy rather than a manic one
So I enjoy both,just depends on what mood I'm in,or what mood I want to be in.
omt
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I had a bit too much speed the other night,and felt really tense and had a sore jaw,so popped a Xanax.What a great combo! Plenty of energy and euphoria but a chilled out energy rather than a manic one
Agreed, amphetamines and benzos compliment each other well. The benzos do not take away the euphoric buzz of the amphetamines but they do take the edge off of them a big in a nice way. The benzos come in particulary useful if you find you've dosed slightly beyond the totally comfortable level on the amphetamines and need to settle.
omt
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With your liking of stimulants you might well enjoy one of the PCP analogues as they are stimulating disassociate anaesthetics which I found to be superior to MXE.
Have you tried DMT before?
Nope and I doubt I will any time soon down here.
MXE isn't an analgesic but a dissociative anesthetic. Analgesics are painkillers like opiates.
Anyway, I wouldn't write off dissociatives because you don't like MXE. It's not that much fun really, ketamine is far superior. But ofcourse it's up to you whether or not you'd like to try that.
Oh I could never really work out the difference, but just found a decent link and I understand analgesics are like part of the anaesthetic family? Anyway, I feel nothing at all, no pain sharp or dull. Its weird, but nothing off putting. Probably would be if I actually felt numb though.
Oh no I do love dissociatives and MXE, they're ahead of most things but I'd much prefer to be raving with millions or just myself to something energetic without a care in the world, something so free about it. Dissociatives and Stims are probably equal for DOC.
Depends on my mood and situation. Overall i like opioids best but every now and then some fine crystal or blow is fantastic with it. Pretty much anything mixed with heroin is great in my opinion (best is heroin+heroin+more heroin). I think i was a junkie 
helium-4
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I'm a full on poly drug user. I'll use pretty much all classes of drugs recreationally besides a select few (I wont use say anti-histamines and anti-cholinergics for as deliriants). I like to get high, I like to explore different types of high and the individuals drugs with in those class, I like to add another drug to my list of drugs tried. I certainly have my favorites and would choose some drugs over each other, but I can't always consume the drugs I'd like to and end up consuming something else. I also like being able to understand/relate to the whole spectrum of drug users with in the drug culture than just specific favorites of mine, as my love of drugs is more than just about getting high. I want to learn as much as I can about the whole world of drug, for recreation or medicine.
My overall favorite classes are dissociatives and opioids, but love the depth of and allure of psychedelics, as well as the occasional pick me up/motivator that stimulants are.
My overall favorite classes are dissociatives and opioids, but love the depth of and allure of psychedelics, as well as the occasional pick me up/motivator that stimulants are.
P A
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I suppose I'm a little bit of both. Psychostimulants were my DOC for years. Now that I've kicked the habit, I've taken a liking to moderate doses of oxycodone. I've always been a fan of cannabis, dissociatives, psychedelics, etc., but ever since my mental health went off the deep end, I haven't touched a single hallucinogen - and I intend to keep it that way...the point of all this being: I don't think it's fair to pigeonhole based on recreational drug preference. In my experience, most of the stereotypically 'tweaky' drug users were actually just sensation-seeking, risk-taking poly-drug fanatics who would take anything and everything that was handy at the time; in other words, they were just 'like that,' drugs or not. Likewise, many 'potheads' and opiophiles I've met were more or less the same on the drugs as they were once they'd quit. They too dabbled in quite a lot of stimulants and entactogens. Different strokes, I guess; but in my experience, the factors that contribute to stated drug preference are rarely as arbitrary as 'personality' or 'mood.'
i almost wish i was more into downers, cause then i wouldnt have long sleepless nights and groggy day-afters where no matter how much more speed you do, you still feel like absolute shit. true, its cheap, euphoric as hell, and helpful for work and studying, but the physical and mental aftereffects really make it hard to tell whether the crash is worth the high. it feels like poison flowing through your body, melting everything it touches. unfortunately, some part of my brain is completed when i take stimulants, and they fix a lot of my problems with ADD, social anxiety, confidence, depression (until a few hours in), and general laziness. it quiets my restless thoughts in such a way that i can sit down and write a paper without wandering off to the kitchen everytime i try to maintain attention on my work for more than 45 minutes. the only reason im not addicted to it is because everytime i crash, i feel like such shit that i have to wait a long while to recover before i can use it again.
the only problem is that opiates tend not to impress me all that much, unless i IV them, which i wont do again. they are an interesting drug class though.
in general, though, im a polydrug user who was unlucky enough to have access to all manner of stimulants, but not much else. if my drug diet were more balanced i feel like i wouldnt have such a love/hate relationship with meth and stimulants.
the only problem is that opiates tend not to impress me all that much, unless i IV them, which i wont do again. they are an interesting drug class though.
in general, though, im a polydrug user who was unlucky enough to have access to all manner of stimulants, but not much else. if my drug diet were more balanced i feel like i wouldnt have such a love/hate relationship with meth and stimulants.
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macd610
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I am prescribed all different types of medications...methylphenidate, oxycodone ir, fentanyl, and Alprazolam. Although I guess technically opiates/opioids are considered "downers", they actually don't have that effect on me. They make me feel clear-headed, energetic, and give me a feeling of well-being all the way around. I've even on a few occasions taken a very low dose of alprazolam if I have had a bit too much of my oxycodone. If I have too much, I can at times become agitated and a little too "speedy" (for lack of a better term).
I don't take my alprazolam recreationally at all; I just use it for sleep and occasional anxiety.
I've also never been a big fan of marijuana.
SO...I guess I'm more of an "upper" person, based on the effects opiates have on me....although I DO enjoy a few alcoholic beverages. Hmmm, it's a mystery lol
Interesting topic.
As for the other part of this discussion...I would DEFINITELY prefer being around someone who, for example, is high on benzodiazapines or pot rather than someone high on say, crack. I just can't stand all the window peeping, carpet picking, and insane paranoia
I don't take my alprazolam recreationally at all; I just use it for sleep and occasional anxiety.
I've also never been a big fan of marijuana.
SO...I guess I'm more of an "upper" person, based on the effects opiates have on me....although I DO enjoy a few alcoholic beverages. Hmmm, it's a mystery lol
Interesting topic.
As for the other part of this discussion...I would DEFINITELY prefer being around someone who, for example, is high on benzodiazapines or pot rather than someone high on say, crack. I just can't stand all the window peeping, carpet picking, and insane paranoia
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helium-4
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Analgesics and anesthetics are not the same thing. Analgesics are drugs that help to reduce or give relief to pain (opioid painkillers, some anti-convulsants, and non-opioid painkillers like NSAIDs) but not by eliminating sensations that cause the pain. They also don't cause muscle relaxtion. Anesthetics due reduce pain - for the most part provide analgesia -, but unlike analgesic, they create an absense of sensations [pain], and unlike analgesics they also cause muscle relaxation.
So yeah, anesthetics also function as analgesics, though since there are different types of anesthetics, like say local anesthetics, the analgesia from say an opioid and a local anesthetic will be different. Pain can still be felt outside of the anesthetized area, where opioid analgesics for example, painrelief is primarily from their action on the CNS. Analgesics are not however anesthetics.
KomfortablyNumb
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Same with some of the other posts for me. As a teen I loved upper. But as I get older it all about the downers. Opiates especially, best feeling in the world.