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Upper vs. Downer People

When it comes to trust and general comfort, the opiate user is a no-brainer.

I can't stand being around people who are tweaked and geeked. If you have any propensity at all to be a douchebag, stimulants will always bring out that side of you.
 
"crackhead vs. dopefiend"
Neither. Trusting any addict is, on average, setting yourself up for failure. It doesn't matter if the addict is your best friend, brother, father, so, or what they're addicted to. When someone is deep within addiction, their number one concern is satisfying that addiction; ethics are of no concern.

Just my experience from being on both sides of the equation.
 
Ive found crack heads to be way more volatile. But yeah both crack heads and junkies can be scummy it's just that crackheads tend to be more violent.
 
I guess I'm one of the few people that this kinda thing doesn't apply to.

I love both uppers and downers.

Getting spun out of my mind is sooooooooooooooo amazing.

But at the same time, I love getting all doped up on oxycontin.

Benzos are nice too.

Maybe it's because I'm more of a poly-drug user.

But I have a friend who is mainly into stims/K, and yea downers barely do shit for him. Like when I give him oxy (20mg, since he has no tolerance) he says he doesn't feel shit. So I kinda got the impression he was one of those guys that had a naturally high tolerance to opiates. But even when he crushed and swallowed 40mg of oxy (of course I told him he shouldn't need that much), he STILL didn't get the euphoria from it - but of course he got the nausea from it and was on the very edge of puking. Weird.


EDIT: Didn't realize that another thread was merged into this, so I'll comment on that one too.

Crackhead vs dopefiend

In my experience I would choose the dopefiend - although like someone else said, it's never a smart idea to trust an addict.

Just about every crackhead i've ran into pulls the sketchiest of the SKETCHIEST shit. Scamming and stealing - and not even trying to hide it really. Dopefiends...well, I don't doubt that they do some sketch shit, but at least they do it in a way thats not like "in your face" kinda thing. Also, I've been an addict to oxycontin before, and so has my friend. But I could still trust him with important things. Although sometimes we would have plans and he would just flop/go MIA on me - because he probably just stayed home high. And shit, he trusted me even knowing I was an addict - sometimes leaving 15 - 20 OC80s in my possession for a week or so while he had to take care of things. Sure it was tempting, and it's not like I didn't use any. But before I used one, I would always call him and let him know what was up. It was never something that he would have to find out on his own, e.g. "Yo...last time I was here I counted them and there were 17...how come there's only 15 now?" "Oh you must've dropped them because I didn't touch them" - yea I've never pulled that shit with oxy.

But crack...I have. But even when I did, I still told him what I did. I remember one time he left 2 grams of crack with me while he went to the police station - he didn't come back that night. So I decided to take a blast. That blast turned into me smoking 2 grams of rock that night. The next day when he called me I told him straight up what happened and to just add it to my tab - which I eventually cleared.
 
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I love them both. preferably though: a long amphetamine binge, then getting heavily zonked on opiates and benzo's on the 4th or 5th day awake, is an amazing feeling to me(but not crashing totally)

When I'm off Amphetamines, I have such a intense/nervousness that is so abnormal, that nobody believes that I'm NOT on amphetamines....so when I do, do them, I usually either: 1. geek badly and act like an asshole or 2. calm down(same applies to crack, I calm down far more with Crack then amp's though) -If that makes any sense....
 
jamesmartin said:
Ive been scamme by crack heads alotttt
on a Friday night in Ottawa they are all over the place being crazzy ass weirdos


While on the other hand the dope heads are just sitting somewhere peacefullly nodding off :)
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haha yeah. I just moved back from Ottawa. I lived in the Caldwell projects. There were a lot more crack heads then anything. I found Ottawa had less of a demand for opiate pills then anywhere else I lived(Sudbury,Belleville) which made them really cheap! Or since there was actually heroin..they just were not as expensive.
 
Wow.

My dog really always liked downers (alcohol, benzos) and always avoided "uppers" because of her anxiety problems. But oddly enough, she was just diagnosed with ADD and prescribed Adderall which is sort of calming to her- as "they" say it should be for people with ADD who "need" that drug. She is 28, in dog years, btw.

On another thread.... opiate pills have always been sort of an upper for my dog. She's basically a rx person (vs street) due to insurance availability.

It's just amazing how different everyone is.
 
humanguineapug said:
Wow.

My dog really always liked downers (alcohol, benzos) and always avoided "uppers" because of her anxiety problems. But oddly enough, she was just diagnosed with ADD and prescribed Adderall which is sort of calming to her- as "they" say it should be for people with ADD who "need" that drug. She is 28, in dog years, btw.

On another thread.... opiate pills have always been sort of an upper for my dog. She's basically a rx person (vs street) due to insurance availability.

It's just amazing how different everyone is.
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Sorry, but that was a massive fail at avoiding self-incrimination!

You've just publically admitted to animal cruelty. ;)
 
^ It's ok to admit you use drugs on Bluelight.

As long as you don't post a photo of yourself sitting beside several kilograms of cocaine, you should be safe enough. ;)
 
Its crazy, but when I was a young man I was all about the uppers in every form they came in, now I really just like to slip into the downer chill, nothing better then just forgetting what stress is
 
I've always been a downer person. The highs for both are great but the comedown for uppers is just too much for me. Which is why whenever i do uppers i always have to have benzos and opiates for the comedown.
 
I go with uppers. I can learn to tolerate physiological anxiety and rarely experience enough to have impact on my thoughts and actions and sleep.


Upper comedowns: "Ack! I may be bored for the last two hours I'm awake."

Downer comedowns: "what the fuck bitch! who's number is this? whose number is this! What the fuck! I knew I couldn't trust you..."

Upper withdrawals upon awaking: "..Oh I'm awake. I'm not very excited about it. Oh well."

Downer withdrawals upon awaking: "DANGER! Something's wrong! Oh what the fuck did I wake up? Goddammit I am awake. Today's gonna be bullshit -- what the fuck! My pillow is all sweaty! Fuck I'll have to remember to clean this later... Fuck it, I'll just lay in my sweat until I'm ready to look at the clock..."
 
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phrozen said:
"crackhead vs. dopefiend"
Neither. Trusting any addict is, on average, setting yourself up for failure. It doesn't matter if the addict is your best friend, brother, father, so, or what they're addicted to. When someone is deep within addiction, their number one concern is satisfying that addiction; ethics are of no concern.

Just my experience from being on both sides of the equation.
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As a general statement I agree to the absolute fullest.

however, I have to say that I have met a couple, very few and far between, exceptionally trustworthy fair people, (who were addicts) ....

Ive also thought that before and was wrong, I admit it. Never give money upfront right, everydopefiend knows that.

there was this cat id give money for #30 60mg phines upfront to go pickup once a month like clockwork...he never ripped me off, untill 6 years later, I gave him like 20 bucks just to get a couple before the next month, and he stole it and burned the bridge. I handed him upwards of 500 all the time, he always was straight, than 5 years later he burns me on 20 dollars....see you just never know. .
 
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I am 100% totally completely an UPPER person. I have had depression in the past, that's when I 'discovered' stimulants. They made me feel alive. Ever since then they've been my drug family of choice. Downers never really made me euphoric, just slow, tired, and indifferent. At most a 'dumb smile' type feeling. I feel more like me while on them than off them, I perceive myself to be an energetic, hard working, sparky individual but when I'm not speeding I just feel.. so tired. :( It's no good habit but it's my habit.
 
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