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Opioids Ultimate Poppy Pod/Seed Tea Mega Merged Thread III

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allalong said:
I've been expecting opioid RCs to take the place of pods....
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Forgive my shameless ignorance, but what are opioid RCs? I'm a semi-regular kratom user (about 2 times/week), and I'm always on the lookout for a similar substance that can perform as well as or better than kratom. I have the unfortunate bad luck of coming into a knowledge of pods when they're almost impossible to find. :X
 
People seem to be giving up on seeds, but there are definitely still unwashed seeds out there. I remember one post that said the cheaper the seeds the better, and as a rule of thumb, I've found none more accurate. I live in the US, in the same county where 2 separate PST overdose deaths have occurred and they still sell these seeds for around $1-$3 per 1/3 lb bag. The price and quality depends on the time of year I've noticed, as the vendor probably has different sources based on when the flowers are in season in certain regions. When they're at their best, 1 - 2 lbs would make me nod and keep me out of w/d's for 48 hours (all the alkaloids compete for elimination, slowing the process significantly) To put that in perspective, I need around 160-200 mg of oxy, or 24-32 mg Hydromorphone, or 0.5 g decent dope (all IV) to achieve the same effect. If the 0.5 g of H seems high (per dose) its because in colorado the quality is fairly poor. Really good shit i'd probably only need half that but it's hard to find.

ANYWAY: the whole point of this long, and semi-useless post is to give hope to those of you out there who are still trying the poppy tea approach. There are still good sources out there, and many will let you order bulk if they don't stock enough to hold you over.

Here's my story/excuse for buying massive amounts of seeds: There's a polish pastry/cake called Makoviec that requires a pound or more seeds per batch, and I would tell the clerk that my grandma or parent does catering jobs and makes it as a desert/delicacy and does special orders too. I once even brought my regular store's clerks each a slice of the pastry that i decided to make one night. Not many suspicions after that. . . .(its pretty good shit too if you don't wanna just throw away the seeds after use ;) )
 
Poppy Pod Tea Dosage Question?

Hey Guys,
I have recently acquired some pretty high quality dried poppy pods and I have a question about the dosage. To give you an idea of my current tolerance I regularly take Vicodin on weekends only and stay clean during the workweek. My usual dosage for a good nod when taking Vicodin is currently 70 MG using a cold water extraction then taken orally.

I realize that dosage for pods can be extremely difficult to judge, especially with a new batch. I have taken pod tea many times before but Its been a very long time since I have made a batch. What I will usually do is grind up my entire batch at once and store it, then dose by weight rather than by the pod. One pod from this particular batch is around 5 Grams.

My question is what would be a good recommended starting dose for my first batch of tea in some time, tho I have been taking opiates regularly in between?

Should I start with say around 15-20 grams or so then see how it goes?? Maybe drink half the batch and wait an hour for the next half?? Any wisdom would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
 
All we can say is start low OP. There is no way to know how potent your batch is.

I'll mere this in to the megathread now and you can read through it and the OD Directory poppy section for lots of examples of starting doses.

Good Luck!
 
Papaver somniferum

So basically I am curious about the 35 alkaloids pertaining to this plant.
I have about 18 pods left that were originally grown and not washed off and the original seeds still inside and I forget where they came from, but straight off the stem.. Anyways, I was wondering if someone was not used to all them alkaloids, but used to morphine/codeine derivatives would that give off that 'warm/fuzzy' feeling due to just that? I don't know exactly what to expect. I have been all over the web, pubmed, and googlescholar, etc. and no research really points out a TRUE average of what % they contain so I could even do a conversion. The closest I got was like .2-5% of weight, which if anyone was trying to dose high, would leave a wide range open.

One more thing, I also seen that you can do a wash (once EVERYTHING is ground up) in alcohol and then boil it off, and then dry that out? But that is as far as I read, it like stopped.. what occurs or should occur thereafter?

Thanks everyone.. Appreciated..

I just don't want to 'overdue' it, because I have a high tolerance due to a prescription, but want to try the tea, I was thinking maybe a higher concentration would overcome the tolerance..

Thoughts??
 
I'm not exactly sure what you are asking OP. Because you have a high tolerance to opiates the pod tea will not effect you as strongly as an opiate naive person but you can still get lots of itchy side effects. As for first time dosing there is no way to tell how much active ingredient in sap dried to the pod there is and you'll just have to start low and titrate up to stay safe.

Regarding the alcohol extraction. Once it dries you'll have the solid alkaloid salts.

I'm going to merge this in the poppy pod mega thread so that it triggers the subscriptions of everyone who is subscribed. Generally a good practice. You can check out all the other poppy threads in the OD Directory if you haven't already as well.
 
poppy seed tea experince

Hello all, I have been a lurker here for some time and finally have something to post.. I like many have wondered at the efficasy of pst statewide with all the conflicting info. Today on a whim I visited a certain bulk food store that is inside a local supermarket.. not sure what the rules are regarding sources, but the natural foods section reminded me of a certain mark twain character named fin.. they had seeds that were whitish looking with lots of plant matter throughout. I bought a pound (all they had) for around ten bucks and it turns out its a good thing they didn't have the full two pounds I was looking for. I did a quick five min cwe in a two liter with some lemon juice to hopefully convert some of the goodies into hcl. Well unlike the last two tries at other stores this worked a treat and im pleasantly stoned after about twenty mins. Mind I don't have a huge tolerance but I know my way around and it takes 60+ mg of hydro or oc to get me where I wanna be. Its not that good, but for the price its very nice indeed.

Cheers
 
im interested in trying this next week once my uni exams are all over. i was wondering though, how quickly does tolerance and dependence build. i mean, if i was to take it for 3 days, would i likely suffer withdrawal symptoms in the following days?
 
I just had to post my solution to this problem of suppliers running out or quality issues... I started growing my own! It is WAY easier than most people imagine. I have 3 strains started right now. Persian Whites and Tasmanian (purchased online) and grocery isle McCormicks. They are all getting pretty big after about 4 weeks, but the McCormicks is actually doing the BEST!! I suggest trying it.
 
Lazyscience said:
im interested in trying this next week once my uni exams are all over. i was wondering though, how quickly does tolerance and dependence build. i mean, if i was to take it for 3 days, would i likely suffer withdrawal symptoms in the following days?
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At that level of dosing with pods, I wouldn't call the after effects withdrawal... What you will probably experience is more of an odd hangover. I've had really good pods that didn't do this before though, hopefully you get some like this!
 
does anyone know if the pods have to be fully developed to extract the goodness?

Thanks :)
 
does anyone know if the poppy pods have to be fully developed to extract the goodness?

Thanks :)
 
nice 1! is it damaging to the body to consume small amounts(just enough to take of the rattle) of thebaine?

Thanks!
 
I am new to pods- I know its a bad time to get involved- <snip>

First of all, how many tablespoons of pod grind would be acceptable for somebody who uses 15g of kratom PL per day and high powered extracts a few times a week.

I am looking to help with chronic pain issues but also wouldnt mind some u4ia

Any advice is greatly appreciated. Feel free to PM me
 
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Wow...

I have not done pods in some time now, and just out of curiosity I looked at my old vendor's site, which has been closed down, and several other sites. They are all out of stock or closed.

Grim. It was such a lush market last summer.

One site I read is pushing Papaver Setigerums, which they described as "a legal hybrid of the somniferum species". Does anyone here have any experience with this type of pod?
 
Hey guys, thought id post in here before I make a new thread in bdd. So I got 56 ounces of poppy seeds yesterday which I was really excited about. They are pretty dark in color with a very nutty smell so I put 300gms in a 2 ltr bottle with water that rose about 2 inches above the top and shook like mad every once in awhile for about 15 min. The resulting liquid was very milky white and smelled just as nutty as the seeds themselves. The taste was nutty also but when I don't breathe through my nose I literally don't taste anything I drink.

T+30 I start feeling a strong tightness in legs but nothing else noticeable
T+1:00 A slight spacyness maybe a little tiny bit of a happy feeling (might just be me excited to be high)
T+1:30 No difference, still a small background feeling, starting to feel let-down
T+1:50 Made another tea with 200gms and drank with a 2nd wash
T+2:30 Feelings a little bit stronger (still nowhere near where I would like to be)
T+3:00 Started to feel a bit itchy but no real change in mood, perhaps a bit more lazy.

There is deffinetly something on the seeds but didn't feel as much as i'd like. I want to tr again tonight and was going to ask what you guys think; I was thinking of doing a batch with either 600 or 700 grams, what would you guys try if 300gms then a redose of 200gms the night before only made me a tiny bit above baseline?
 
Hey
Quick question:
I've got a busy day tommorow so I'm thinking about preparing poppy seed tea in advance.
I mean:
I'll make the tea now, store it in closet and in the morning (about 12h from now) I'll drink it.

Is there a threat for the brew to lose it's potency? Some alkaloids breakdown?

If you've tried this, please let me know how it went

pzdr
 
Is there a threat for the brew to lose it's potency? Some alkaloids breakdown?
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Well solids are more stable than the salts in solution but for this case in the dark at room temperature for a night isn't a big deal. I'd be much more worried about bacteria or fungus growing but if you are using developed nation municipal tap water there are likely preservatives which will probably keep it okay for that short a period. dH20 or well water would not be good to consume after sitting out for even a few hours though.
 
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