Opioids Ultimate Poppy Pod/Seed Tea Mega Merged Thread III

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...On topic, is the pod industry still alive at all in the USA? I mean there are still obviously sites up, but the best I can tell, most people are frustrated with it and have given up. Is there anyone out there that is still using these lower quality pods that have become the norm? They still give effects though with much less morphine effect, and I'm wondering if pod users/ addicts are still going on these pods with less morphine that are so common now?

Well, the Arizona farm had shut down, and from what I know they were the best and suppling 90 percent of the usa market. It used to be <snip> a head now its like <snip> a head. I know there is a researcher in canada that made a poppy plant with no morphine content, just codeine. So it wont be too long before you see non-narcotic pods out there. I will find that researchers name and there was a nice video he had. He is from the University of Calgary in Canada.

Also I think the farms in Washington and California cut the pods down too early, which could be one reason. The seeds then would not be dark, the walls thin with no ridges, and the crowns are not naturally open. This indicates that they never let the pods dry on the stalk in the sun fully. Also they could be using a persian white strain which is very low indeed, or this new strain that researcher made. He figured it out on pure luck see he located the one gene out of 22,000 genes in the papaver that produce the morphine from the codeine.

 

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Pods were never "made legal". Pods have always been illegal (schedule II) since at least the initial CSA legislation, if not earlier (I don't know the wording of the Harrison Narcotic Act of 1914 verbatim ). If you don't believe me check the original classification of codeine, morphine and poppy straw in the Controlled Substances Act of 1970.

Up until recently, the only people buying pods were little old ladies making decorative pieces so it wasn't worth the expenditure of time or resources to enforce this. Once the word spread that you could use them for more and a whole industry popped up around them, this drew the ire of law enforcement and now you can see the crackdown.

As I explained above, the reaction was slower than I expected but this was extremely predictable and the whole site has been anticipating it for years. Most pod users seeing the period in which they could buy cheap, readily available opiates and have them delivered to their door as an anomaly, not an expectation.

There's no conspiracy here. This is just how American society functions and more-or-less always has.

They had to know you can extract morphine crudely from dried heads. What they made illegal is the sap, and its derivative. They never made it illegal to buy dried heads or even fresh ones. What is illegal is making the poppy straw. I agree this was bound to happen, I mean you have your mailman a government worker bringing you a "controlled" substance. They must hate the irony of that. peace

 

[caseface99]

optout when quoting multiple people please use this button

located next to the quote button, click it for each post you wish to quote. Then on the last post click "quote", and all the posts you have wished to quote will all be together ready for you to respond to each one individually in one big post, rather than double/triple/quadruple posting.

 

[FattyAcid]

Good questions, I've wondered these things myself a lot recently.

this is what I was saying with my post....current experience

 

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caseface99, thanks Im new to this forum only a few posts. will keep it in mind for the future. peace, also how can i move everything I posted and your replies under my first post that had the title somewhere more fitting? Thanks

 

[caseface99]

caseface99, thanks Im new to this forum only a few posts. will keep it in mind for the future. peace, also how can i move everything I posted and your replies under my first post that had the title somewhere more fitting? Thanks

What you mean like move our posts to another thread? You can't only moderators can do that. If you have a good reason to do so PM an Other Drugs moderator and they will consider it if you have good reason, otherwise don't bother. I didn't full understand though, why do you want to move posts?

 

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What you mean like move our posts to another thread? You can't only moderators can do that. If you have a good reason to do so PM an Other Drugs moderator and they will consider it if you have good reason, otherwise don't bother. I didn't full understand though, why do you want to move posts?

well, its just that this is some mega thread with a lot of topics covered. I know its in the interest of this forum to have it as neatly organized as possible. This way more people would see it and join in the discussion. I am new to bluelight and as you say it would take a moderator to be able to move anything. Thanks.

 

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To anyone out there considering to do this for the first time should know that I've have heard so many peoples experiences. Given the current pods out there I doubt they have any M in them at all. They already have strains of P.som that have no M, not to long before there's some non-narcotic strain of it.

Anyway, I hear many people say that they are rather happy with the shortage right now, since many knew their addiction had become quite an incredibly desperate and pathetic situation.

I know that it has been said so many times, but with Opies tolerance grows very quickly. If one uses the tea no more than say twice a month as a special treat, then great. But realize that this is not really possible for so many people since it goes against human behavior. You want to do it because it feels so freaking great. And forget about it if you have an addictive personality. If you smoke cigarettes your doomed to go down the path so many people have gone down.

The best one line advice I had ever read about poppy tea was "start small and stay small", in the amount of powder used. I always hear people say, "start small and work up from there." Their logic is just so you dont OD and die the first time you try it. But staying small, not using much powder will make you so much happier than trying to chase the dragon, as they say. Also if you keep increasing the dose, the amount of plant straw used your "life" dies. I use the term "life" very loosely here. Since it will stop your development as a person, put everything on hold, your in molases. So dont do this if your bored and want some hobby to occupy your time.

Also, be warned things have a way of balancing out, this is seen in all things in nature with the laws of physics. As good as the tea could make you feel it can also bring much discomfort. And to many the discomfort is so much more painful and uncomfortable then any pleasure derived from using the tea. So in many peoples opinion its not balanced.

Also, A friend was able to stop using pods by using benzos, like diazepam\valium. His experience is that those benzos dissolved and uncomfortable WD symptoms. He was able to go from using the tea every other day to once every two weeks. Then once a week. Peace.

"Keep it on the road"

 

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last line meant once a month not once a week, well duh not really a taper then, etc...

 

[Cane2theLeft]

^in the future, please use the 'edit' button instead of double posting and bumping the thread.

this is the problem with megathreads, theyre skimmed over....can't really see a better solution, but still, asking a question without any answers, even views, sucks

I hear what you're saying here... my late response to this obviously being evidence of the phenomenon in and of itself!

A few things you can do- most posts within threads do not have a title so when a post does have one it stands out. Title the post just like you would a thread. You could also add a little bit of color to your post although I highly recommend not tying the whole post in a different color; many people around here are irritated by this practice.

Another option is starting a new thread if you think the question is unique. The thread will likely get merged into the mega thread eventually but if you have a good topic and show us that its worthy, then often times we'll at least give it some time as its own thread so it can get a little more exposure/attention.

Simply state in the OP of the thread that you understand that it'll likely get merged but you feel the subject deserves a little attention independently because of 'X' and politely request that it not be merged immediately.

If you DO start a new thread and its something that's been covered ad nauseum however don't be surprised if it does get closed or merged into a mega thread quickly but otherwise I'm always happy to hold off merging so important discussion topics can flourish before being merged.

 

[MACstar]

...On topic, is the pod industry still alive at all in the USA? I mean there are still obviously sites up, but the best I can tell, most people are frustrated with it and have given up. Is there anyone out there that is still using these lower quality pods that have become the norm? They still give effects though with much less morphine effect, and I'm wondering if pod users/ addicts are still going on these pods with less morphine that are so common now?

Well, I am not currently on pods, though I was about a month or so ago. I usually have 1-2 month long binges at a time. If you look hard enough, you can find decent pods at a semi decent price. It is hard to find good pods, and it is impossible to find cheap pods anymore. It is indeed a sad, sad state.....I remember having an endless flow of affordable pods for years Ebay status. Poppy pods, even seeds alone(if I can find em') Are my DOC.

I enjoy IV dilaudid, H, Oxy, Roxi, Morph, etc. I also enjoy this OxyFast stuff VERY MUCH! But in my humble opinion nothing comes close to a very good batch of pods. Very long legs, with a warm, gentle comedown.

But the industry is on it's death bed.

Oh BTW, what is this "movie" of pods or whatever?

 

[MACstar]

^ For me, tea will last in the fridge for about 4 days. But that's only saying I can smell something a bit funky-a-brewing in the tea. But i still drink it, and it's still fine. Shit, maybe it could last weeks and still be good? Try freezing it if you must. I have drank some funky ass tea in my day. The worst is poppy seed tea that stuff gets rank QUICK!

HA! I remember being so sick, I would down my tea, and within seconds I would barf it back up, BWAAARRGGHHHFFFFF. And still being so sick, I would get a bed sheet, filter out the chunks, and drink that shit again. Ahhh, the good ol' days.

 

[Pegasus]

I wouldn't store more than a day, and preferably not even that much. It will already have plenty living in it by the end of day one...

 

[Nib]

HA! I remember being so sick, I would down my tea, and within seconds I would barf it back up, BWAAARRGGHHHFFFFF. And still being so sick, I would get a bed sheet, filter out the chunks, and drink that shit again. Ahhh, the good ol' days.

Guilty.

 

[MACstar]

No harm in that harm reduction right?

BTW Nib, Incubus Science is one of the greatest albums of all time!

 

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dont use lemon juice. youll come to love that bitterness. lemons will take the bitterness out. also examine stems for black stuff. lemon juice increases barfability. never fridge it, put some alcohol in it, some high proof stuff for any long haul savings. be careful. start small and stay small. dont chase this.

 

[King Hop Head]

I find dissolving Vit C tabs are the way to go. They have lots of citric acid that aids bioavailability and the orange taste couteracts the pod taste quite well. Also find a liquer chaser helps eliminate the aftertaste.%)

 

[Timland]

Poppy seed tea from dried pods' seeds

Alright, I'm a little bored tonight (but not desperate or WDing or anything) and out of the pods and I got pounds and pounds of leftover seeds so I am going to process all of them to test out whether they are viable or not (have alkaloids on the seeds). Some of the seeds are from lovely desert grown batches from June.

This is gonna take a lot of water and agitation so it'll take a few hours to get definitive results. Will keep this post updated with my findings so long as the edit button is there.

Worst case scenario I end up well hydrated and the seeds go where they were going anyway if they lack alkaloids -- the trash.

I'll imbibe for safety reasons but I'll know whether or not they're viable by the bitterness. I know that opiate bitterness like I know the taste of ethanol in beer in wine.

Stay tuned. :D

Preliminary test: 1 pound of seeds with overcompensated water in 2 liter bottle, agitated for 15 minutes, filtered. Water is near-transparent with no noticeable bitterness. +30 min on empty stomach I feel barely above baseline -- probably placebo. +1 Hour -- Slight coarseness to voice, slight pupil constriction, heady feeling -- Would equate to 10mg hydrocodone in the feeling.

Next test will be emptying 7-10lb of seeds and using an electronic stirrer for one hour in a huge pot. Warm water. The result of that will be imbibed carefully.
Done stirring. After allowing the seeds to settle, the water appears very cloudy. Sampling with a teaspoon it also lacks a bitter taste but has a harshness the preliminary batch did not (rancid oil?). Filtering now.
Slightly over 64 fl oz of liquid. I will imbibe in quarters. 1/4 imbibed.
+30m No noticeable increase in effects will wait an additional 45 minutes and then imbibe the other 3/4ths.
+1h:15m Still no change. Consuming the rest.
+2h:00m Lessened anxiety, increased socialability, slight sedation, slight "heavy legs" feeling that I am familiar with pod use

My conclusion: The seeds from dried heads do contain extremely miniscule amounts of alkaloids, but obviously much less than the manufacturer extracted seeds where the pod head is sliced while its still fresh and latex gets spilled on the seeds.
I will no longer be saving the seeds as I have no interest in cultivation or culinary use of them. And the bags of them were taking up way too much space in my drawers. YMMV.

It should be noted that the first pound of seeds I used were from the "desert grown" pods of summer as opposed to the now common Pacific Northwest grown ones. The former is much more potent than the latter in my experience.

(Note: I won't be doing a second wash)

 

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what will mold on a pod do to you? wont you kill the mold whon you scorce the pod with boiling water.could the black looking stuff be rot?

no the mold usually is inside the pod. What Swim is referring is to the black resin on the bottom of the pod, usually the stem. Im sure you will find out what that is. But thats when the sap naturally drips out, not all your pods will have, just some. black tar....

 

[jamesBrown]

no the mold usually is inside the pod. What Swim is referring is to the black resin on the bottom of the pod, usually the stem. Im sure you will find out what that is. But thats when the sap naturally drips out, not all your pods will have, just some. black tar....

I think the black resin(or raw opium) is the white shit that leaks out of the cuts in the pods that have dried over a certain period of time into a black, more sticky substance. it usually takes about 12-24hr's I believe.

I could be mistaken and you are talking about something completely different cuz I didnt read too far back but oh well. i hope i was of some help....if not, I apologize.