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Opioids Ultimate Poppy Pod/Seed Tea Mega Merged Thread III

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Not only is it likely you had an inferior and inadequate batch, but you used BOILING water, bro. You wanted lukewarm water, heat destroys the opiates you were seeking. Boiling water can literally ruin a batch of tea.

In the future, find a better source for for pods, or just get seeds from a bulk store and make strong tea that way.
 
Morphine breaks down at a temperature below the boiling point of water. I have tried many different methods of making PTS and I'll list the ones I personally have found the most effective. Even though I am very aware that boiling breaks down morphine - I have tested this method solely for the purpose of reporting to you all here at Bluelight.

There are guides to the best methods of preparation that can be easily found - please search around.

As for potentiation regarding grapefruit juice:
•I find Ruby Red Grapefruit juice to be the only real effective method. Drink this 30min-1hour prior to consuming your tea.
•If you consume your tea on an empty stomach the effects will be stronger due to faster absorption.
•Adding crushed Tums (Calcium Carbonate) to your solution speeds up absorption by creating Calcium Morphenate.
•If you have access to benzodiazepines, a small amount of this will potentiate dramatically. (Be bloody careful with this)

Do your research mate!
I'm not implying you haven't, but researching the best methods benefited me greatly. Many people are knowledgeable here.

To conclude:
Drink grapefruit prior to tea consumption, the emptier the stomach - the fuller the effect; cold water is the best method - boiling is pointless, and is inefficient; I've tried using grapefruit juice instead of water to mix the seeds in, and this doesn't increase effect - you need the enzymes from the GFJ in advance.


This post is assuming you are using this tea for recreational use. If you are using this for medical purposes, consult your doctor/physician - there is very much risk associated with poppy seed tea. Potency varies MASSIVELY.

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The following abstract listed some ranges for various opiates found in poppy seeds.

http://www.astm.org/JOURNALS/FORENSIC/PAGES/2619.htm

"Poppy seeds from different origins contain a wide variation of morphine (2-251 mg/g) and codeine (0.4-57.1 mg/g) content."


3.5 pounds in grams = 1,587.57grams.
Morphine Range: 3.2 g to 401.6g ----> That is more than 100 times the Morphine content !!!
Codeine Range: 635mg to 90.6g

This is both drugs in one dose.

By way of reference; what doctors prescribe for post surgical levels of morphine -- that is morphine enough to eliminate the pain of having been cut open and your major organs tinkered with -- is in the range of 2.5 mg/kg to 35 mg/kg. The range depends on the type of surgery, how the morphine is administered, if the patient has previously built a tolerance ...etc. (1)

For those not familiar with what this means here it is in terms of common weights for people:

For people the dose ranges are:
50 lbs = 22.7 kg : 57 mg to 794 mg
100 lbs = 45.4 kg : 113 mg to 1.6 g
150 lbs = 68.0 kg : 170 mg to 2.4 g
200 lbs = 90.7 kg : 227 mg to 3.2 g
250 lbs =113.4 kg : 284 mg to 4.0 g

For a horse this could mean a post-surgical dose of:
850 lbs =385.6 kg : 963.9mg to 13.5g

In science and medicine terms LD50 is the dose at which half of those given that dose will die. I found several values, the upper end of which was 400 mg/kg in some rat and mice studies. (2) The values for humans will likely be different, however, given the upper end of what 3.5 lbs of poppy seeds can hold, it's clear that many times more than the LD50 are present in those seeds.

With the same weight values and LD50 dose as above the LD50 is 9.0 g for a person weighing 50 lbs 18.1 g for a person weighing 100 lbs 27.2 g for a person weighing 150 lbs 36.3 g for a person weighing 200 lbs 45.4 g for a person weighing 250 lbs 154.2g for a horse weighing 850 lbs

The LD50 for Codeine is nearly identical to Morphine. This means 3.5 lbs of poppy seeds can contain enough Codiene to easily kill a 250 lb man. And almost enough to guarantee the death of an 850lb horse. This is IN ADDITION TO the already lethal levels of Morphine. This is all based on the upper end of the opiate ranges for Poppy Seeds. At the low the Codeine content alone is enough to kill post surgical pain for all but a horse.
 
Yes, I've studied this extensively too, some of it is intriguing. But my guide for using poppy seeds for recreation, or, more likely, for the cessation of opiate abuse and the breaking of addiction, includes several ways to protect yourself from the seeds which, yes, are not at all of standardized potency. There are ways to determine potency, methods to discover how best to use a certain potency of seeds or how to find the strongest so you can drink less, even means by which to, if you're chemically inclined, extrat the opiate alkaloids and create your own standardized mixtures.

Used properly, seed tea is the greatest weapon in the arsenal of a drug warrior trying to win his or her freedom.
 
Will using a blender destroy my poppy seeds?

I have a magic bullet and would like to use it to agitate the goodies off of my poppy seeds. If I were to do this in very short bursts - could I avoid breaking up the seeds themselves and just give them a mighty fine shakin'? =D

I'm very experienced with making poppy seed tea but damn I'm sick of shaking, and shaking, and shaking the damned bottle! I bet my girlfriend just thinks I have a major chronic masturbation issue =D
 
Umm, why would your girlfriend think that? Are you shaking the bottle in your pants!!!?? =D

I would definitely avoid blending. Its just not the done thing - all the goodies are on the outside of the seeds.
Unless you have a plastic mixing type blade.

BTW I wish I had a magic bullet!! I love that infomercial :)
 
That's what I figured. Yes, well actually I duct tape the bottle of tea to one of my upper thighs and agitate the mixture by thrusting vigorously. It's just such a genuinely pleasant sensation my arm flails - much like when you scratch a dog in the right spot. =)

Don't hate me because I'm crazy. Hate me because yzarc m'I esuaceb em etah t'noD.

Considering the fact I find Whey Protein powder milkshakes genuinely awful, I'm just not even going to imagine what that'd be li--
And there goes my "Don't-think-about-a-pink-elephant-syndrome" again. Ahaha.
 
will using a coffee maker work with poppy seeds and what is a decent dose for someone with tolerance? i haven't been using at all but i used to use the pods and then i was on heroin. i think i have permanent tolerance. is that a thing? i took the maximum amount of 5mg/325mg of acetaminophen hydrocodone recently that i could without overdosing on aceta and i felt a TINY high but i was also drinking A LOT.
 
will using a coffee maker work with poppy seeds and what is a decent dose for someone with tolerance? i haven't been using at all but i used to use the pods and then i was on heroin. i think i have permanent tolerance. is that a thing? i took the maximum amount of 5mg/325mg of acetaminophen hydrocodone recently that i could without overdosing on aceta and i felt a TINY high but i was also drinking A LOT.

Depends...A Bunn coffee maker heats the water to 180 degrees, most boil the water. I think a long soak in a high PH water of about 90-100 degrees is best.
Edit: Just noticed you wrote "seeds" a long shake of high PH (warm) water is adequite- you dont want to pull the oils out of the seeds - Yuck
 
That's what I figured. Yes, well actually I duct tape the bottle of tea to one of my upper thighs and agitate the mixture by thrusting vigorously. It's just such a genuinely pleasant sensation my arm flails - much like when you scratch a dog in the right spot.

I think you're on to a winner there.

Also gona merge this with the poppy seed mega thread.
 
Depends...A Bunn coffee maker heats the water to 180 degrees, most boil the water. I think a long soak in a high PH water of about 90-100 degrees is best.
Edit: Just noticed you wrote "seeds" a long shake of high PH (warm) water is adequite- you dont want to pull the oils out of the seeds - Yuck
i just ask because i no longer have a tea filter. any advice for using coffee filters somehow or other methods? =/
 
Ok, my third or fourth day off seeds after over half a year of nearly everyday use.
I'm not dying, just really bored, weak, not willing to do anything, sweaty, and sleeping 6h a day.
How do you think, is the worst behind me?
 
i did 21 oz in one night and didn't feel a good high. it was hardly anything, not enjoyable. but apparently permanent tolerance is a myth? i don't know if i believe that. i guess maybe after the hard stuff it just doesn't seem like anything, but it used to.
 
wouldn't it TOTALLY depend on the batch of seeds, how they're handed during extraction/s&h, etc. etc. before tolerance even comes into play?

Although I would tend to agree. 4 vicodins used to floor me, way back in the day. now I would barely feel them, or if I had a couple weeks clean it would only produce a minor buzz - not the magical hallucinatory mind fuck that 20mg hydrocodone once was. Oh how things change...
 
I am having a DAMN ROUGH time trying to kick my PST habit. For my body personally, PST and Alcohol addiction potential leave heroin (strangely enough) and cocaine in the dust.
 
Poppy Seed Tea Dosage Question

I know the doses are very random but i have been getting consistantly pretty decent seeds and i was wondering how much food in your stomach would delay the onset of the tea effects? I had a full stomach and drank a normal dose and its been just about three hours and im finally starting to feel it but not strong. Is there any food that might lessen the potency of the tea?
 
I know the doses are very random but i have been getting consistently pretty decent seeds and i was wondering how much food in your stomach would delay the onset of the tea effects? I had a full stomach and drank a normal dose and its been just about three hours and im finally starting to feel it but not strong. Is there any food that might lessen the potency of the tea?

Well, first I would suggest that the seeds were of lesser potency, and you just got a bad batch.

Food will affect onset negatively, IIRC. Perhaps small amounts of food will enhance absorption of the opiates. But it shouldn't negate it that much. That said, I'd never dose on a full stomach. Dose, then eat thirty minutes later.

There is no food that will lessen the potency of the tea due to intrinsic characteristics, as far as I'm aware.

You may also consider that you have increased your tolerance to the morphine in the tea. Try drinking more.
 
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