Miscellaneous Trip stoppers. Are they bullshit?

[SaintJude]

Speaking of Ketamine specifically, the clinics will tell you to not take your morning dose of benzos or amphetamines, but buprenorphine and SSRIs are fine.

I asked whether they interfere with the efficacy of Ketamine itself or just don't want to risk drug interactions. I was surprised to have been given different answers by different doctors.

Some said that benzos would lessen the efficacy and experience, others said it was for respiratory depression risks. I was told amphetamine avoidance was to keep your heart rate steady. Multiple Drs said bupe was fine, but one said he did see that patients using bupe and trying to treat Depression had to come back much more frequently than those who did not.

Does anyone have any experience and/or knowledge on this topic?

 

[vita17]

Speaking of Ketamine specifically, the clinics will tell you to not take your morning dose of benzos or amphetamines, but buprenorphine and SSRIs are fine.

I asked whether they interfere with the efficacy of Ketamine itself or just don't want to risk drug interactions. I was surprised to have been given different answers by different doctors.

Some said that benzos would lessen the efficacy and experience, others said it was for respiratory depression risks. I was told amphetamine avoidance was to keep your heart rate steady. Multiple Drs said bupe was fine, but one said he did see that patients using bupe and trying to treat Depression had to come back much more frequently than those who did not.

Does anyone have any experience and/or knowledge on this topic?

I have a prescription for ADHD meds in the amphetamine class and am wondering what the interaction is like between taking occasional small dose of ketamine with these meds? What's your take? I usually smoke a little weed every so often while on ADHD meds to handle the intensity and keep focused or relax a bit as I go for lengthy 12-16 hour on-and-off work sessions. Curious for your experience.

 

[Camomill]

'bad trip' in itself seems to be quite the spectrum. Minor complications for example could more often than not stem from overreaction/general anxiety.
An effective tool can be to remember to control and influence one's breathing.

Very good practice.
But I know there could be more dramatic situations, or the case of actual physical complications, an overdose for example.
In which case it also really depends on what kind of 'trip' you are on, and what dose etc... A general trip stopper seems pharmacologically naive to me but it could work some times...

 

[SaintJude]

I have a prescription for ADHD meds in the amphetamine class and am wondering what the interaction is like between taking occasional small dose of ketamine with these meds? What's your take? I usually smoke a little weed every so often while on ADHD meds to handle the intensity and keep focused or relax a bit as I go for lengthy 12-16 hour on-and-off work sessions. Curious for your experience.

A little weed with ADHD stims is fine. I do it the same as you and also if I occasionally take more stims than usual it can help with the comedown irritability. I don't know what other meds you are on or your experience with KET, but I have never had an issue with small amounts of the three together. That said, I typically take KET on it's own though as I specifically use it for treatment resistant depression and feel it works better for that when not combined with anything else. YMMV, best of luck.

 

[M!$TER-ED]

I can speak not as one who intentionally tried to stop a trip, but one who has not tripped because of medication.

 

[Jung and Stoopid]

Xanax or Valium definitely work to stop most bad LSD trips.

Any benzo will work. Zopiclone works even better and will stop a trip in about 20 mins if taken on a empty stomach

In my humble opinion benzos do not stop trips, they only make them more easily managed.

Saying zopiclone kills trips is dangerous advice imo

Some of my best, most intense trips involved hefty benzo doses... but I take truly heroic amounts.

Antipsychotics KILL trips... benzos dull them. Z drugs might do anything.

 

[paranoid android]

In my humble opinion benzos do not stop trips, they only make them more easily managed.

Saying zopiclone kills trips is dangerous advice imo

Some of my best, most intense trips involved hefty benzo doses... but I take truly heroic amounts.

Antipsychotics KILL trips... benzos dull them. Z drugs might do anything.

Benzos and z drugs kill my trips better then zyprexa does. I cant even take zopiclone the night before tripping or it wont work. Same wth high dose klonopin

 

[lexxbell]

like others have said, a good benzo will definitely chill out a bad trip, if not kill it entirely. seroquel on the other hand WILL kill the trip entirely, you will be done tripping and falling asleep. i like to keep a couple benzos or seroquel on hand, for trips as well as just my panic-riddled noggin

 

[apukontrol]

were suppose to make bluelight a place where people can actually and for real start a trip here on BL,

 

[apukontrol]

like others have said, a good benzo will definitely chill out a bad trip, if not kill it entirely. seroquel on the other hand WILL kill the trip entirely, you will be done tripping and falling asleep. i like to keep a couple benzos or seroquel on hand, for trips as well as just my panic-riddled noggin

seroquel gives wonders to trips, since its anti psychotic ur dopamine recepter response changes very differently, but u need to take another dose of the drug u were using like half an hour after taking seroquel.