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There is no real point in life.

Buddhism just conceptualises "God" in a different way. It's not incompatible with God-centred belief-systems unless you want it to be. To me, the existence of a God both makes sense, resonates, and has been proven to me subjectively, so I'll hold to that for now.
 
So you imply that God is not doing his best as far as the circumstances allow?
 
Ninae said:
So you imply that God is not doing his best as far as the circumstances allow?
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Yes.

If you intend to judge someone by choices he makes in life, you make him sane. Not insane. Or is that too much to ask from God almighty?
 
theres not even close to a god in theravada buddhism. its not a belief system at all, its a practice based on experience to experience for all if they make the practice.

what do you mean by ''Buddhism just conceptualises "God" in a different way''

if there was a perfect being who created us, he wouldnt care to judge who we are. if anything, we are the god, each of one of us are our own creator and judgin others isnt going to help anything, not them nor us.

Ninae said:
Buddhism just conceptualises "God" in a different way. It's not incompatible with God-centred belief-systems unless you want it to be. To me, the existence of a God both makes sense, resonates, and has been proven to me subjectively, so I'll hold to that for now.
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Well, more like they see God as the underlying whole or one consciousness behind the illusions, or the universal divine stream we can all tune into. I find that concept of God works as well.
 
god? what is god? the divine stream?
why arent you always connected to it? how to connect oneselves to it and be always connected to it?
Ninae said:
Well, more like they see God as the underlying whole or one consciousness behind the illusions, or the universal divine stream we can all tune into. I find that concept of God works as well.
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You're always connected to it on an unconscious level. It's what gives you life and consciousness. But realising it on a conscious level is a whole other thing.
 
Ninae said:
You're always connected to it on an unconscious level. It's what gives you life and consciousness. But realising it on a conscious level is a whole other thing.
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to be always connected to it would be to feel it all the time. if its unconscious, its the same to say that you arent experiencing it right now even if its there all along, therefore you arent living it.
but how can one believe that after life, suddently one will be allowed to experience that heaven. why not now? why would god only permit you to experience heaven after all that suffering?

so god would be the objective reality, the nirvana state, from buddhism, which is perfect and permanent contentment, happiness and peace.

however, theres not a lot of instruction on how to get there besides loving and be devoted to people, which I doubt allow one to find that heaven within permanently.
 
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I know, it's the most complex mystery in the world, no less.
It's not meant to be easy.
 
Ninae said:
I know, it's the most complex mystery in the world, no less.
It's not meant to be easy.
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it isnt very complicated, hard yes, but if you think its a mystery that is complex, you may put serious blockage toward your spiritual life. Im not saying your not spiritual, everyone is a spiritual being.

All I know, is that one cannot have a spiritual life and accept oneselves with negativity, judgments, hatred. anytime one realize that he is entertaining the feeling and ideas of hate, judgments, critic, resentments, fear, one need to substitute with something wholesome.
we should all breath in peace and expire love from the heart. When one realize he has control over how he feel and what he thinks, this is the beginning of the liberation imo
 
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Ninae said:
You're always connected to it on an unconscious level. It's what gives you life and consciousness. But realising it on a conscious level is a whole other thing.
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exactly ^ you go girl

all these anti-religion , anti-god sheeple , just following the trends without any significant introspection. People who automatically blame "God" for all the worlds problems, for republicans, ... people who complain that god is letting us go insane or letting the whales die.... Just cause God could save everyone and everything doesn't mean he/it is going to ... On Earth we are evolving and in order for us to reach our highest potential we have to be allowed to be fucked up and fuck things up; until we realize that our highest ambitions should be love and peace and spiritual progression.

How many of you actually have read the bible? (gasps!) Oh the thought is most disconcerting i'm sure.... Or how many of you have tried a sincere prayer? Maybe even speaking it aloud in private? Maybe you should check those items off, (with sincerity) before you write off god so fast.
 
It's like people project their own problems onto God or believe the state of the world means God has to be some kind of monster. When in reality, if they were to encounter God, they would have to suffer quite the opposite. Or be faced with something so elevated it would be almost painful for them to endure, and also make them feel very humbled, not to mention ashamed of how they have thought of divine.

But this notion that an average human being can be somehow superior to God, and that God is somehow lacking, is seriously moronic and I don't understand where these ideas come from. I don't care if you're the most intelligent person the world has seen, you're still no more than a cell in God's brain. Or, more likely, an atom making up one of the molecyles in one of the cells in God's "brain", if even that.

Too many people blame God, or something outside of themselves, for their lack of spiritual experience or proof of God's existence. When the problem always lies within yourself and God doesn't just show up automatically and hit you like a ton of bricks for no reason. The mystic experience can be subtle, but it is real.
 
I just wonder how can anyone believe in the bible?
its written by mens, not god.

We are god (creator), each of every one is his own god that must purify itself to perfection indeed to attain perfect happiness and contentment and peace. Every action we make create tons of effect in the world and we better take responsibility of our actions and what we desire in life because it affects everyone.

heaven can be now and can only be now, not at the time of death. If you suffer right now, its your own fault, not god plan.
 
The Bible is like a dirty window giving a dim view into the heavenly things.
 
As long as your personal self is in a state of so called "happiness" I think you are on the right track. :)
 
d-nihl said:
As long as your personal self is in a state of so called "happiness" I think you are on the right track. :)
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Everyone is severely off track, if that is to be the case. Because of what philosophers and some types of economists and other social scientists term the "hedonic treadmill", true and unalloyed happiness is as rare—in our inordinately hedonistic and quick-fix world, wherein people are either of the opinion that happiness can be bought from some Benny Hinn epigone for only 5 easy payments of $19.95. (less shipping & handling), chased down or pursued like a criminal perpetrator resisting arrest, or attained through intensive and faithful dedication to some eclectic religious praxis—as permanent ego dissolution or moksha.

The hedonic treadmill, for those to whom the concept is unfamiliar, is fortunately easy to define and comprehend. Some definitions, with references, are:

1. "The tendency of a person to remain at a relatively stable level of happiness despite a change in fortune or the achievement of major goals. According to the hedonic treadmill, as a person makes more money, expectations and desires rise in tandem, which results in no permanent gain in happiness."

2. "The hedonic treadmill is a theory that people return to a relatively stationary level of happiness, sometimes considered a happiness “set point.” Although efforts or interventions to improve happiness have a transient effect, individuals inevitably return to their original happiness set point after a short period of time. [...] You essentially have a set level of happiness where you consistently remain. When good things happen, that level of happiness can spike up. When bad things happen, that level of happiness can dip down. After good and bad events in your life, you eventually return to your set level of happiness."

3. "The hedonic treadmill theory explains the oft-held observation that rich people are no happier than poor people, and that those with severe money problems are sometimes quite happy. The theory supports the argument that money does not buy happiness and that the pursuit of money as a way to reach this goal is futile. Good and bad fortunes may temporarily affect how happy a person is, but most people will end up back at their normal level of happiness."

4. "The hedonic treadmill, also known as hedonic adaptation, is the supposed tendency of humans to quickly return to a relatively stable level of happiness despite major positive or negative events or life changes.[1] According to this theory, as a person makes more money, expectations and desires rise in tandem, which results in no permanent gain in happiness. Brickman and Campbell coined the term in their essay "Hedonic Relativism and Planning the Good Society" (1971).[2] During the late 1990s, the concept was modified by Michael Eysenck, a British psychologist, to become the current "hedonic treadmill theory" which compares the pursuit of happiness to a person on a treadmill, who has to keep walking just to stay in the same place. The concept dates back millennia, to such writers as St. Augustine, cited in Robert Burton's 1621 Anatomy of Melancholy: "A true saying it is, Desire hath no rest, is infinite in itself, endless, and as one calls it, a perpetual rack, or horse-mill.""

References:
1. http://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hedonic-treadmill.asp
2. http://www.gostrengths.com/what-is-the-hedonic-treadmill/
3. http://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hedonic-treadmill.asp
4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonic_treadmill
 
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