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The vitamins and supplements MEGA THREAD.

500 = 100mg wtf?
mine are from walmart, and they contain 100% RDA per serving (of magnesium *and* zinc). The
I get generic ones at ~$4/bottle, and it lasts 80 days when using it at 100%RDA (and it has 100%rda zinc as well, which is actually the main reason i use it - the magnesium is just gravy to me).

/am kind of confused why you even asked, if you have the bottle... does it not have nute facts on it?
 
It says 500mg equiv. To elemental magnesium 100mg on the bottle. I'm confused what they mean by what they say on the bottle. Doesn't make sense.
 
it's because elemental = 'pure'. for instance and in context for such a board, think of cocaine. it's actually cocaine hydrochloride. a gram of cocaine hcl (the powder one would purchase), has less actual cocaine per gram than freebase/pure cocaine (ie, crack) would have.

I see you're in aus., do the bottles not have an "RDA %" value on them? (obviously not "rda" per se, as that's an american guideline)

fwiw, mine contain 400mg of magnesium (as magnesium oxide), and that's 100% rda here in the US according to the fda.
 
I watched this documentary on HULU.com titled something like "Steroid Nation" or something simular. It was pretty much pro-steroid use. Ben Johnson getting stripped of his Olympic Gold was the catalyst for the Publics negative opinion of steroids. Its only like the number 128 killer drug. Alc and tobacco are 1st and 2nd respectively.

This same documentary featured a guy piling 4 Mexicans into his work van and bringing them to his house to pour a propietary blend of supplements into capsules and then he would slap labels on them for sale in his buddies retail store. The products were selling in part due to his former glory in bodybuilding competitions and being a general hero/legend/bad-ass in his area.

He said his pills are a total ripoff due to something about the allowed use of the word "propitiatory". The content of the bottles aren't regulated by the FDA for any resemblance of truth. They are not approved by the FDA. And the FDA only does an investigation/demands the product be taken off the shelf after someone dies from use or an investigation happens.

This guys profit margin was immense. A bottle cost like a few dollars to produce and sold on the shelf for upwards of $60.
 
"proprietary blend" is how they "keep their trade secrets", so instead of:
100mg vitamin C
0.002mg pure gold

it becomes
bmxxx's super expensive awesome blend, 100.002mg
- Vitamin C
- Pure gold

lol yeah buy your supplements from either trusted companies, or from retailers' lines that are long-standing (w.mart, for instance)
 
beagleboy said:
I watched this documentary on HULU.com titled something like "Steroid Nation" or something simular. It was pretty much pro-steroid use. Ben Johnson getting stripped of his Olympic Gold was the catalyst for the Publics negative opinion of steroids. Its only like the number 128 killer drug. Alc and tobacco are 1st and 2nd respectively.

This same documentary featured a guy piling 4 Mexicans into his work van and bringing them to his house to pour a propietary blend of supplements into capsules and then he would slap labels on them for sale in his buddies retail store. The products were selling in part due to his former glory in bodybuilding competitions and being a general hero/legend/bad-ass in his area.

He said his pills are a total ripoff due to something about the allowed use of the word "propitiatory". The content of the bottles aren't regulated by the FDA for any resemblance of truth. They are not approved by the FDA. And the FDA only does an investigation/demands the product be taken off the shelf after someone dies from use or an investigation happens.

This guys profit margin was immense. A bottle cost like a few dollars to produce and sold on the shelf for upwards of $60.
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Bigger, Stronger, Faster was the name of the documentary, and it is one of the best I have ever seen. This coming from somebody who doesn't give a fuck about steroids.


As for any kinds of supplements or vitamins, only buy Nature Made brand. According to several doctors I see for sleep problems (I have to take melatonin every night), they are the only manufacturer that actually tends to put what they are supposed to put in their tablets. Literally nobody else on the market (at least at your local drug store) is reliable. Well, actually I remember my psychologist saying that there was one other reliable company, but I can't remember it, because I remember it being obscure (I would have had to go to a special store).
 
I have taken a variety of supplements in the past few years but the ones I have stuck with are:

Daily Men's Multivitamin
Tumeric (anti-inflammatory helps with my crohn's)
5-HTP (Helps with sleep and anxiety)
St. John's Wart (anti-depressant)
Transfer Factor (regulates immune system and as a result seems to help with my crohn's)
 
^your doctor is wrong. there are shady brands out there but most of the time some discretion is all that's needed.
/there have been plenty of analyses done on this stuff, it's almost always fly-by-night companies that're to be avoided.
 
Storing Gingko Biloba Powder

Anyone able to keep the powder from absorbing moisture and turning into a solid mass?

I tried ziplock bags and an air tight glass jar with dissicant packs inside and still 100g, with lasting so long, turns solid after a while.

Any tips? I hate to keep wasting such a valuable herbal. Would it still be OK to use, gone hard?
 
if airtight + desiccant + fridge/freezer doesn't do it i cannot imagine what would. if you're working with raw powder then contact who you bought it from <or where you learned about grow/harvest from>
 
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