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The vitamins and supplements MEGA THREAD.

^is it even cheap tho? last i checked (admittedly a while ago) arginine was expensive *everywhere* (errr, i guess i'm making an assumption as to what you dose it at.. whaddya take?)
 
yeah its pretty cheap. i don't know how strictly price discussion rules are enforced here so i'll hold off on actual numbers. i'd still be better off buying powder, but i'm too lazy to cap the stuff myself.

my typical l-arginine dose is ~4grams (depending on how many caps i pour out of the bottle usually).

remember to take l-arginine on a mostly empty stomach, and with water rather than sugary beverages. absorbs way better that way.
 
i know i've read that in a few places before, but i can't find a decent source right now. found several pages backing up both claims, but they're all attached to a manufacturer trying to sell a product.

other amino acids compete with l-arginine for absorption. not sure why on the sugar thing tho. i remember reading that caffeine is one to avoid when dosing your l-arginine, too.
 
sadly, there is a TON of misinformation on any supplements that have association with muscle-growth, libido, and/or diet aids.

I can't say i know for sure that's why i was curious, but generally speaking the body has no trouble digesting what amounts to half a cup of milk's worth of protein (4g), regardless of what it's consumed with. And, generally speaking again, simple sugars tend to increase absorption of the macronutrients because of the insulin spike they create (insulin is an incredibly anabolic hormone and does a great job shuttling everything from protein to creatine to muscles after workouts, hence so many super-sugared(or maltodextrin, which is just less-sweet sugar) post-workout products.

i wouldn't be surprised to find that all of their claims re "absorption" / "effect" being dependent on their conditions are, in fact, veiled attempts to get you to simply use it in a manner where you'd see/feel it more noticably (ie, it hits you quicker on an empty stomach- ergo you perceive it as more pronounced than if it kicked in a lil slower - ergo you're more likely to stay on the product. This wouldn't mean a full stomach was inferior - it could be quite superior but just not as much of a 'kick'(think of caffeine in this regard, yknow?))
 
I usually take a multivitamin/multimineral with a fish oil omega-3 capsule, and some extra biotin, D3 and Zinc everyday with breakfast.

I like(d) to think my diet is pretty good for the most part, but since I've starting supplementing this stuff, my hair/skin/nails feel much stronger and grow much faster. I guess I need to do some reevaluating haha.
 
yes it is excessive. RDA is 400mg for the oxide. Excess magnesium isn't really an issue on its own but 1k is overdoing for a supplement IMO.
 
liquid chlorophyll

I forgot how good this stuff is, I had only taken it years ago but recently I was noticing my BO was a little worse than usual probably because I havent been sweating as much as usual with exercise so I have started taking this stuff and I would put it up there with fish oil.

I have a low platelet count and this is suppose to help, then I found out platelets actually spread around serotonin in the body.

There are other benefits such as anti inflamatory, chelation, it also has magnesium but not sure what is truth or not but if I had to guess I would say it is true, if you are in to taking supplements that you actually feel help you such as fish oil or creatine or inositol then I would say try this out.
 
Currently taking
Superfood green powder
20Grams per day divided into 2 doses
Contains only
ORGANIC WHOLE GREEN BARLEY GRASS
ORGANIC WHOLE GREEN WHEATGRASS
WHOLE HAWAIIAN BLUE-GREEN SPIRULINA PACIFICA
ORGANIC WHOLE PRE-SPROUTED BARLEY
ORGANIC ACEROLA CHERRY


Also Hemp Oil with breakfast
L-CITRULLINE 500mg 4 x 2-3 times daily
DHEA 50MG 1 X Daily
D-Alpha Tocopherol

Herbal supplements ( These are rotated a bit , ie usually 3 months on , 1 off for the ashwaganda and triphala)
Chrywanaprash
Triphala
Ashwaghanda
Shilajit

When I am working out more active , ie Martial Arts or Ashtanga yoga I tend to take Melatonin as well as DHA
 
What supplements vitamins should I look into?

I'm an 18 year old male who works labor jobs. I don't eat as healthy as I should and I enjoy some drugs on the weekend. Mostly coke, mdma, and on special occasions speed and her.oin.

I'm about 5'6 or so and around 130 pounds, on the thinner side. Im looking for some good things to take to help me be a little healthier, especially when i'm gonna be rolling or awake for periods at a time, and working long hours unable to get full meals every day. Anyone have some suggestions?
 
first ill get a little bit preachy but if healthy diet isnt a high priority for you then you should make it a priority

good food is basically one of the most important medications you can take and it is dosed 3 times a day

as for supplements:

Magnesium (chellated) : This relaxes joints/muscles, increases clarity, improves mood, increases energy, if you take it before you roll you wont gurn (meth mouth)
Fish Oil : Good for your brain, good for your skin, some say it helps for depression
B vitamin: B6 is nice for dreaming, B12 most people are deficient in so this is good to have, all round good to have a B vitamin if your not eating right
Multivitamin: This is if you dont eat enough fruit and veg (though i recommend getting your vitamins from natural sources rather than a pill)
Olive leaf extract: this is going to help with not getting enough sleep and a poor immunity system resulting from a poor diet, have 12mg morning and night and have some fruit juice ready as a chaser. It will also prevent you from getting sick because it really boosts your immune system.

I take all these things and they are doing wonders for me
the hardest part is to actually make yourself go to your pill box in the morning and take them, i have a poster on the wall next to my bed that tells me what to do every day so it helps remind me to take my pills

Good luck with the job! and consider waking up a little bit earlier so you can pack yourself lunch, im sure you get lunch breaks!!
 
off the top of my head:

Vitamin C B12 B1 B6
Melatonin (works wonders my insomnia, works good for comedowns to)
Niacin

theres many many others you can search for on google. for some reason i don't like the multivitamins i would rather have the individual compound. the multi vites always upset my stomach for some reason even when i eat when i dose its weird.


Also you don't have to eat 2-3 big meals a day, what is actually better/healthier for you is split up small meals throughout the day. The starkist tuna pouches are awesome, eat more vegetables of course stuff like that. Also start exercising more often, even quick 20-30minute daily workouts are better than nothing. Just do some push ups/sit ups and a little bit of running, throw punches while you do this and thats another good exercise. the more you do it the more you'll get in the routine, especially when you start noticing yourself getting better in shape kinda becomes addicting ime. Your mood will become improved to, imo i have a more stable mind frame when im being healthier.

When i was into rolling and stimulants more i dropped 20-30 pounds because of living like a junkie basically didn't give a flying fuck wasn't planing on living much longer. This was a handful of years ago and i have gained my muscle/endurance and everything back, still 8 pounds shy of what im shooting for. now its just hard to stay at this weight, i have to eat a ton of calories.

def start caring about this now, your health is very important. not trying to be preachy either just advice handed down from another pretty experienced drug user for my age.

pm if you have any more question or anything like that.
 
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Thank you guys for the advice, I'm going to pick some stuff up tomorrow, in the mean time stocked on some vitamin water.

Serious question, as an 18 year old.. How effective do you think the Flintstones multivitamins would be if i were to say double to dose to account for the fact i'm not a child anymore. I would have no problem eating 2-3 at a time if that's what it would take, that shit is delicious!

Flintstones+Vitamins.jpg


Just seeing those vitamins in that picture is getting me pretty excited. God dayum i loved them. And the grape flavored chewable Tylenol! Aw shit I gotta pick those up too. I used to pretend i had a headache as a kid so i could eat a grape flavored chewable tylenol... Don't judge me.
 
def start caring about this now, your health is very important. not trying to be preachy either just advice handed down from another pretty experienced drug user for my age.

I don't think of it as preaching youre responding to my question with very helpful advice thankyou, and Yeah i;ve recently lost a lot of weight due to stims and not living a healthy life. Which is why I want to get into this, looking and feeling healthier will help me mentally not become an addict either, working to put on lost weight and regain some muscle mass is an accomplishment, would I want to ruin that for a few days binge. No thanks. When im skinny and already look like a crack head, fuck it who'll notice.. lol.
 
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