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Dissociatives The Small & Handy 3-Me-PCPy thread

I have gone through 250mg of 3-me-pcpy recentlly and can confirm its stimulant and euphoric properties. I have noticed it even before reading any trip reports here, so I surely wasn`t biased except for the similar properties of its older brother, 3-me-pcp.
The first time I tested it, I dosed an initial 10mg and incremented with (smaller than 10mg) eyeballed bumps. It really resembled the effect of high quality cocaine. Damn, I even had intense jaw clenching.
Unfortunately I haven`t tested higher doses of it by itself, but only mixed with 3-me-pcp. I had camping a trip with friends and shared the rest of it with everyone. To make more of this small quantity I mixed it, which yielded great results at 15 pcpy to 10 pcp. I even had some wine with it, buthave a considerable long term tolerance. the only friend who took this much went kinda catatonic for some time. I found the combination to be much more euphoric and social than 3-me-pcp on its own and probably better and more "wholesome" than 3-me-pcpy on its own. These compounds are similar in how stimulant, even though the latter is much stronger in this regard.

The end of the story is after that trip I binged on the rest o 3-me-pcp 2 weeks straight and got a real taste of the manic state so many Bluelighters warn about. I was sure I could achieve ANYTHING I wanted hahahha.... Sounds fun, but it`s not so fun once I came down and realized how delusional I was in some aspects (or was i?). I actually had some amazing insights, but they dindt seem to stick in the long run. I also love playing overwatch while on dissociatives (anyone else ?) and I really see it is a competitive performance booster in the sense I get more immersed and relaxed, besides the game is just much more fun. I find this to be true specially for more stimulant dissociatives like these 2, although I had a great time with mxipr, dmxe and ketamine (with this one I get too fucked up to play 50% of times lol).

i think both of these have a great potential to be used as party drugs. didn`t have the chance yet, but I bet they will be great. Mind that I also had great times partying on 3-ho-pcp, despite the disabling properties so many describe. Regarding 3-ho-pcp, with some ald-52 mixed in it can actually be great for parties, I guess that might be because of the added stimulation. As I said, 3-me-pcp and pcpy are stimulant enough, still I bet they will mix quite well with triptamines and lysergamides.

By the way, I dont think MDMA holds a candle to these novel dissociatives as party drugs, specially if its for several days in a row. The high feels much more natural and balanced and the smooth comedown is incomparable. Yes, you can and will get in that manic state, but for me that will usually only happen after at least a one week binge.
 
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I've recently sampled through a gram of this substance, nice indeed from somebody who loved the combo of deschloroketamine and meth - at the price of (possibly) enhanced neurotoxicity, this would then apply to 3-MeO-PCPy as well. At least we have one paper about ketamine addicts and those with concomitant use of stims had worse MRIs. This can mean anything or nothing at all.

Weird interesting fact, the stimulation appears to be through an indirect, NMDA mediated mechanism as opposed to direct NDRI/RA activity because I have a sky high disso tolerance - took at least solid 25-35mg to get some effects - and it doesn't just cover the dissociative effects, one would expect this compound to behave like an amphetamine in tolerant individuals but tolerance is to the stim effects as well.

Still one of the more potent arylcyclohexylamines out there and compared to 3-MeO-PCP definitely more my taste. To 3-MeO-PCE, was a long time since I had that but back then I got strong motoric inhibition (inability to talk) which is absent with PCPy.
 
I would say it´s more potent, shorter but also more void and less serotonergic... I think I prefer the nature of 3-meo-pce the most (after mxe), but maybe Im too naive still to draw conclusions... so guys, give your 2 cents so we can have an x-ray image of every disso compound around

Lets draw the disso map
 
The effects of 3-meo-pce for me were totally different to what I expected from what is usually described. I can relate to plumbus's description of not being able to talk. But not only that, I wasnt able to articulate thoughts, I felt really dumb.
I tried it in two different settings, a few times while playing pc games - not fun at all - and once while in a social occasion - it was even worse. Worth noting that at that time I thought oral administration was the way to go for every dissociative, except for K. Nowadays I always go for insufflation for the quicker onset, which also makes it easier to assess the intensity of the effects and avoiding dosing more than I want. I even think the high is better in many cases. MXE is an exception to this. I dosed orally almost every time and it was just perfect.
 
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It's interesting because out of all the dissos HXE makes me feel the most retarded. 3-meo-pce is good in my book. I remember one time i gave it to my friend and he ended up all zombied out & looked like i kidnaped him while i was having fun driving around on the country side :ROFLMAO:
 
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What dose is considered an overdose? What will happen to overdose?Looking forward to your reply, thank you！
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Guess there is not even an LD50 in rodents yet for most of these dissos, let anything established in human. My personal impression and experience is that the better of them like K, MXE & derivates are exceedingly safe as for recreational use, overdose begins at the anesthesia which is used medicinally (in K, before PCP and the latter one is very potent and long lasting too. Gave some fluid psychosis cases though ") and to harm yourself it needs multiple times anesthetic dosage, even with K this amount doesn't fit upp your nose.

So overdose is kind of a deep catatonic state where one is unable to be woken up but not physically in danger. Prepare your trip sitter for this, it might save you a visit to the ER. I once had somebody catatonic on MXE and even knowing these are anesthetics, it scared the hell out ut of me.
Dangers are stuff like drowning while intoxicated, or hurting your bladder from too much K. Still have to read the first such report about a RC one, they all are multiple times more potent, so less toxic (minus brain).

Edit: always with Dissos but increasing with dosage, one has to look out for mania. These chemicals shift your mood towards the manic end and this together with the memory inhibition can be similarly bad as blacking out on benzos.

A bit worrying about 3-Me-PCPy are it's stimulatory features which will add strain to (at least) the heart which could lead to complications specially in regards to overexercising provably. But in my experience the stim effects shared the same tolerance as the Disso ones, so with tapering not too much worry here. Correct me if I'm wrong!

The effects of 3-meo-pce for me were totally different to what I expected from what is usually described. I can relate to plumbus's description of not being able to talk.
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Yeah, it's beet quite a while since I touched 3-MeO-PCE and for one I liked it, having an organic silky sensation only bromadol shared so far (weird as 3-MeO isn't supposed to be an opioid if I'm correct).
But I can certainly relate to having difficulties expressing oneself, my theory is that this happens when one of the NMDAr subunits is more inhibited than others, but it might be whatever.
The only other disso where I had similar problems was DXM, and a toxic batch of DCK, with both it built up over time and in the DXM case the concomitantly (medicinally) taken sodium valproate might have contributed. Weird for sure.
 
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ok. I see 3mepcpy like the tramadol of dissasociatives, it is: an atipic dissociative. I explaine it: the first effects ressembles kinda like cocaine rush (or meph rush) because its sert and dopamine release or recap inhibition. it only last 30 mins or less, second to that start a dissociative phase with strong pure NMDAr antagonism, droziness, confussion, sedative and relaxation, where is difficult to focus on a simply task. only after that start the last phase: the dissociative psychedelic one, where things goes faster speedy maniac and mind goes the fuck up expanse to stars and if you redose chasing the initial rush cumulative effects will kick your mind to the omega point, and messiah delusions will be the destiny of the process ok? like all potent dissos ones.
its like a cocke-ket (calvinklein combo in one molecule) or an atipic disso if you preffer that concept. the main effects only last one to two hours subjectively, but the tail has a long, very long legs, plus the afterglow. be very cautious with cumulative effects and the redose compulsion (craving one yes) because holing on this is very HARD and plus ultra.
Yes, I have great experience and knowlege of dissociatives, I am an ACHs connoiceur, and diaryletil etc wathever you want. more than 10 years researcher.
can ask me everythung you want to know and i can to answer
p. s. sorry for my bad english I can read without any problem but I have to practise writening.
 
I haven't tried this one yet, but it sounds like something I would really enjoy. Sadly it seems pretty difficult to get packages into my country lately from the only place I know of that I can get this from. Oh well...
 
This is a pretty worthwhile dissociative imo and that comes from a person that doesn’t enjoy 3-MeO-PCP which basically is anhedonia in powder form for me.
Tried the 3-Me-PCPy a couple of times in the 6-30mg dose range (in total, not all at once) and found it stimulating, euphoric, clearheaded and overall pretty fun. It’s more simplistic and bland than other dissos I’ve tried but that makes it great for social events and raves. Took a few 7-8mg bumps of it while on a gram of phenibut at a music event recently and had a blast. Dancing weightlessly to downtempo music with a lot of beautiful people felt great and that’s how I’m gonna use it from now on. I prefer more sedating and more inebriating dissociatives for home alone sessions but for going out this is pretty sweet.

Anyways, IN is a more effective/stronger and more fiendish ROA than PO and they induce very different highs. Taking it by mouth is more balanced, less stimulating and less recreational than snorting. Insufflation hurts quite a bit though and I had a nosebleed the next day. Duration is 2-3 hours for IN and 3-4 hours for PO if I remember correctly.

If you enjoy stimulating dissociatives and you’re looking for sth. easy-going that you can use for social events I would recommend aquiring some but if you’re looking for sth. profound then you’re gonna be disappointed. It’s definitely not the most interesting dissociative out there and you’re not missing out on much imo but it’s worth a try if you have some money to spare. It’s pretty similar to 3-MeO-PCP but more euphoric, more fun, more social, less profound and less manic.
 
I can agree with that. Last time i danced in my apartment for like half an hour straight and i almost never ever do that. It's also much more mood-uplifting that 3-me-pcp or 3-meo-pcp, which as you said are anhedonic for us. But they have their own different uses, just not recreational for me.

With low disso tolerance i wouldn't even classify it as *PCP analog, because of that notable joyfulness, energy, dopaminergic push and some (my own opinion) serotonergic action. It's definitely the most party disso available. Unfortunately it's also the most caustic one for insufflation.

I highly recommend this to disso lovers whole prefer the other more "cold" ones rather than hole-dissos. I think they might find it very euphoric.
 
I have a sample of this one but I have just done few light doses so I dont yet know the nature of the beast.

Can someone confirm that the duration is half of 3-meo-pcp and 3-meo-pce? Or is mostly similar?
 
Hexagon Sun said:
I have a sample of this one but I have just done few light doses so I dont yet know the nature of the beast.

Can someone confirm that the duration is half of 3-meo-pcp and 3-meo-pce? Or is mostly similar?
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I cannot say the complete duration because normaly I redose. but would say the first phase is 1h-2h,and then the disso stage for another 2-4h, after that the tail is long, but no perceptible effects, only the state of mind, difficult to sleep, the analgesic etc. If you do a binge of, maybe 3 or 5 days, your mind go very slowly to the real complete baseline during few days more
 
Thanks for the feedback. Yep, yesterday I did a test and is closer to 6h than the 12h of 3-meo-pcp and 3-meo-pce, so I can confirm it too
 
Hexagon Sun said:
Thanks for the feedback. Yep, yesterday I did a test and is closer to 6h than the 12h of 3-meo-pcp and 3-meo-pce, so I can confirm it too
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because that I prefer. time ago 3meo-pcp was my favourite doc. now I am very versed in the mayority of NMDAr antagonist and dissos in general, except PCP and few other analogs (the ones in rc world, not the teorized or lab testing ones) and on the one substituted pcx type this is my favourite. becouse now I font want to go through pcpholes anymore. my dissonautic research is more than enough. now I want something more functional and terapeutic once a month (phantom limb and other things). I think this substance is the best for me. I didn'try 3mepcp yet btw. for holing and lesser potent dissos I go for 2fk or mxpr. I am trying to move my doctors to explore the use of ketamine in hospital for amputees and now am trying to get nasal spray. they are preparing it for me, but the spravato like tests qnd oral ket are conceived for hospitalary use under medical supervision. step by step brothers. nmda is the key.
 
I'm new to bluelight. I'm very experienced with drugs but not with dissociatives. This one was my first. English is not my first language, so...
I took almost 80-100 mg over 7 hours of this 3-Me-PCPy. I bought it from a well reputed european shop. On the legal market.
It was a great day. Opened the lettter. 250 mg of fine white powder.
I was at home alone so I immediately have a 20 mg (weighted) bump. It was 2 pm.
Burn and blood from the nostril. Very strange for me. But I'm not used to snort.
Strong. Colours more intense and a bit difficult to walk and talk.
Stimulant and euphoric. My 15 yo daughter came back from school. I prepared the lunch. all perfect only a bit slow.
While talking in the other room I took another 10 mg and 10 mg 5-meo-mipt oral. Strong.
Euphoria very talkative great conversation, zero appetite. CEV murmur like, strange palace and statues faces and theaters mountains, all dark and green and goth but beautiful. Great empathy. Sexual excitment present.
Great times. Great conversation.
She went to her affairs, I got another bump of 20mg. Strong.
I was alone. Music was great, with Hoavi Invariant album CEV was incredible murmur dark green landscapes morphing faces binocular or microscope vision, very strange like seeing an image than zooming to max to it then change landscape. All very gothic, spectral.
My wife came back. She did not know about my state. The girls did not notice I was very high a +++, great conversations difficoult to talk, I listened great empathy.
I got another 10 mg insufflated. They went to sleep or toward their affairs.
Me in another room had another 20. Very difficoult to walk, the room seemed strange CEV was presenr but the colours always attenuated, murmur spectral like.
Laying in the dark I was in a dungeon or theater continuing morphing in varioud landscapes.
I don't remember if I got another 10 or 20 mg at 11 pm
The morning after at 7 am was still under effect. OEV and CEV strong and difficoult to move. I took 0,75 clonazepam.
It attenuated the effect but all still present but maneageable.
It lasted to 12 pm. Very long.
I don't know if I slept that night. Hours passed and I... I was in hat landscapes and faces an zooming.
Great substance for me My first disso.
Sorry for my english.
Thank you bluelight and guys.
 
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I've done 3-Me-PCPy now on 3 separate occasions. Each time I have increased the dose to find a dose that is active for my very high disso tollerance. (I've done dissos for 20yrs. The last 5 years has been roughly 1-2 times each week or each fortnight doing a disso of some kind. Usually with no more than 2-3 weeks break). I've done at least a dozen different dissos now, most well catagorised. With K and MXE being the ones I've done the most and used for years.

PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THE DOSAGES I MENTION ARE QUITE LIKELY TO RESULT IN OVERDOSE OR ADVERSE REACTIONS FOR SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT HAVE HIGH TOLLERANCE LIKE ME. SO I WOULD NOT RECCOMEND THE DOSAGES I DISSCUSS.

1st trial of 3-Me-PCPy I tried 10-12mg nasal. I got some loss of focus for about 1hr and then kept me awake for hours. I didn't reach a full experience or get much insight into the real nature of this substance (due to my high tollerance I believe).

2nd trial I did 20mg nasal. There was a medium stinging sensation in the nose after a minute that lingered also with some chemical/petroleum byproduct type smell. After 20mins it peaked and I only experienced a mild to medium disso effect and it had mostly worn off by 2.5hrs with residual stimulation and lingering background effects. Not wanting to stay awake for hours, I took a heftly dose of benzos at 3hrs and by 4hrs I had layed down to sleep.

3rd trial I did 35mg nasal. This time I made sure I had acetone washed the product weeks before. It stayed a white powder I just wanted to try and reduce the chemical/petroleum type smell. I also pre-loaded with 3 sprays of 10% lidocaine spray in the nose 10-15mins before. I was surprised there was still a mild sting from the 3-Me-PCPy and some chemical/petroleum type smell. This time I can say I got a pretty good taste of what the full effects are on this substance. It seems to hit me in 10 mins. When it initially comes on just for the first few minutes I can feel a bit out of it and in that introspective, self analysing life frame of mind typical with dissos. This only lasted really as long as I was in the bathroom on the comeup then it was gone. By the time I left the bathroom I was already out of any real connection to a theraputic or really typical recreational disso state. By 15mins I was realising my heart rate was 118 BPM and this had a potent stimulant type effect much more than any of the other of the dozen dissos I've tried. I found the whole experience tinged with some uneasyness and anxiety at times due to the stimulation and high heart rate. I couldn't lye down comfortably. I didn't feel a push to theraputic introspection that I get with most dissos. After 2 hrs effects had tapered down and I was bored with it since I couldn't relax or just enjoy listening to music in bed and heart rate too high for my anxiety. Visual effects and background effects where still there pretty medium in strengh but I'd had enough so I decided to take a heafty dose of benzos to work my way to sleep. 2hrs later my heart rate was still 90 BPM so I took another heafy dose of benzos (Really way more benzos than I would normally ever take except in really exceptional circumstances). I was luckily able to sleep after that but the whole next day I was so exhausted from the benzo hang over. I also noticed that I had some damage to the nose that night. The next day it felt a bit better but I did get a bleeding nose. This is one of the most caustic dissos I've done. Definatley more caustic than 3-Me-PCE (3-Methyl-PCE) which I find has pretty much no sting after 3 sprays of 10% lidocaine spray up the nose 10-20mins before.

I consider myself a disso head in the sence that I not only enjoy the ones everyone else is talking about but I also I really do try to keep an open mind and have often found a theraputic and recreational use for many others that are often not talked about much (once I try them a few times in different settings and and different dosages). This substance however fits into the small list of dissos I don't see myself reusing. It just produces too much stimulation and anxiety for my taste. Much more than even O-PCE (which has taken me years to tame the anxiety and get some recreational or theraputic use from it, although it's still quite stimulating for me). 3-Me-PCPy is a strange disso in that it seems to come on initially and very quickly with a short sharp punch with stimulation and only a few minutes of potental theraputic window before tapering off into a really long lasting medium to mild background disso experience that just keeps me awake. I was surprised how high my high heart rate was. I wasn't able to get into a flow state with this disso and that was dissapointing. Usually I can lye down on a bed with music and feel very relaxed and then engage in self guided stretching and massage (as I have some injuries). With this my heart felt like it was beating too fast and I felt anxious when I tied to lie down with music. There wasn't any intuitive push to continue any stretching or massage when I tried. I just felt tired. Despite having an uncomfortably high heart rate, It was a reasonably pleasent dissociation (for a more background high) but not the usual full immersion and relaxation and theraputic space I had hoped for.

I strongly believe that if I try any higher dose to reach a more immersive and sterotypical disso experience I am only going to be at risk of even higher heart rate and more anxiety issues which could even result in an adverse event.
 
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