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The Pharmaceutical Speedball (opiates + uppers) Q&A/Discussion (Mega)Thread

As long as you got a benzo and opiate appropriate for whatever strength stimulant you're on, you're golden. Lorazepam, oxycodone with molly. Klonopin n oxymorphone with blow (like cuttin it all up together to get an awesome menthol'd headrush). Then course xanax and heroin with the ol' shards.
 
madswagga said:
As long as you got a benzo and opiate appropriate for whatever strength stimulant you're on, you're golden. Lorazepam, oxycodone with molly. Klonopin n oxymorphone with blow (like cuttin it all up together to get an awesome menthol'd headrush). Then course xanax and heroin with the ol' shards.
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There was a damn good reason why in the 1960's and 1970's there were dozens of preparations of amphetamines mixed up with Barbiturates or even Quaaludes before the government cracked down on both those medications really hardcore. :X

I've taken my d-amphetamine (Dexedrine) after taking a couple of Fioricet/Fiorinal (contains barbiturate Butalbital) and it was a great smooth combination; not like a speedball at all, just a very productivity-oriented feeling of being able to work and be at ease and not edgy as some amphetamine users can get, especially at higher doses. Its everything I could possibly want in an ADHD stimulant medication!
 
Cloud_9 said:
IV Hydromorphone + Dexmethylphenidate will have you thinking differently... shit hits you like freight train runnin no-breaks down a 10% grade... %)

Edit: Assuming you micron filter the Dexmethylphenidate and/or the Hydromorphone if its not a brand name Dilaudid which is freely soluble and needs very little prep which is great since while I never did it, people in the hydromorphone IV community would back-load their pills, pull up some saline; and just slam it home with no particulates at all floating around and solution clear as saline can be! :D
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Oh, well I didn't know needles applied to this question. I was assuming mixing two medications without the IV route.

So yes, there is a combo that gives me a feeling somewhat near a speedball...

IV Numorphan (IV Oxymorphone) + Temazepam + Adderall is a combo I've given a try that felt sort of similar.
 
Ive never shot a stimulant but ive shot morphine and smoked crack with it or snorted coke with it plenty of times. Awesome but rather dangerous combo. Oral MScontin and dexedrine is a rather good combo too.

Oh and cloud 9 as you probably know you need to filter name brand dillys now. Theres only 2 fillers in them but still no way can you shoot those but just backloading them. Prefarably use a micron filter but being the wreckless twat i am i always used a cotton filter. My veins must hate me :(
 
paranoid android said:
Ive never shot a stimulant but ive shot morphine and smoked crack with it or snorted coke with it plenty of times. Awesome but rather dangerous combo.
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Heroin + Crack in the same syringe is huge. I wouldn't recommend it though cos it's death on a stick if you get the amount of either wrong. Heart attack city that one.

Sepher
 
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I honestly think that if we're going to expand the meaning of the word, that it should AT LEAST be restricted to a dopaminergic stimulant (preferably a reuptake inhibitor) + Opioid.

Having tried several combinations via several ROAs, I'd say the "speedball effect" is specific to the synergy between these two classes of substances.

IME, Heroin and Morphine are entirely interchangeable if IVed with coke - I would not be able to tell the difference if I didn't know.

IV Heroin after coming down on smoked meth was even more euphoric than the above, yet having them both in the same syringe wasn't.

Snorting coke while on oxy definitely produced a similar, albeit less rushy effect.

But that's where it stops.

Taking amps and benzos simply doesn't produce the same synergy. It may produce its own synergy, but it is different and (IMO) inferior. Combining Ketamine with any of the above can be very euphoric, but still not the same thing.

Also, codeine seems to be too weak for the effect, but hydrocodone works just fine (better than oxy IME). Cocaine is ideal but methylphenidate works too. Amphetamines are trickier and seem to depend a lot on timing. MDMA doesn't seem to work.

My experience, of course, is limited, and gone are the days when I was able to acquire injectible opiates and/or coke...
 
The feeling is more than the sum of its parts for me. Amazing. I am not deep enough into it to know the addictions and dangers of IV heroin and cocaine. How can something that feels so pure and beautiful be that bad.

It can - I need to know more

Pharcyde said:
well if youve ever Ived cocaine and Ived Opiates just combine the feeling
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For me this thread is my true demon.... the sleezy-deezy-pharmy-speezy.

Adderall+Ambien
Adderall+Temazepam
Adderall+ ( enter opiate here )
adderall + Clonazepam
Adderall + Soma (carisiprodal)

BUt for me recently, I got ahold of an old 8mg Suboxone strip....

so last nite it was Adderall + 3mgs suboxone.... and than one was the best. ALmost better than Adderall + unlimited perc tens muhahahaha
 
Tried Phentremine with some Morphine but I highly doubt that it was anything like the real deal. It was okay at best.
 
IllusionalFate said:
What kind of combos do you guys like? I've tried hydrocodone + amphetamine and hydromorphone + amphetamine. Both are euphoric, prosocial, anxiolytic, and complement each other well.
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those aint speedballs.

if it aint coke and dope mixed up in the same shot, it aint a speedball, straight up.

not only is the shit you said not speedballs but they obviously aint IV neither. even coke and dope sniffed in the same line aint a speedball. IV only yo.

the real name for the shit u did would be "doing speed and vicodin at the same time." or doing speed and dilaudid at the same time."

im mad sick of all the cats on here who be like "i did tramadol and ephedrine together--awesome speedball!"

I seen people on here talk about taking Ritalin while they drink liquor and call it a speedball. or adderall and xanax. people dont even limit it to opiates and uppers no more, shit, theyy just think any downer counts. Shit, wats next, drinking coffee while takin valerian root vitamins?

a speedballl AINT just a all purpose name for "any slightly stimulating substance that you take at the same time as any downer-type substance."

Do you ask the bartender for a sprite and vodka when you really want a rum and coke, becuz they are both a soda with a liquor? Hell no.

You guys who do e pills and all that shit, when you take acid and MDMA yall call it a candyflip right? Would you call it a kittyflip instead? No, thats E and K.

So why the fuck does everybody use 'speedball' like its just a general-ass word for pretty much any fuckin combination of any kind that involves a upper and a downer? anyways, coke and amphetamines aint even close when u shoot em up.

it aint uppers plus downers or opiates plus uppers or wtfever. If you aint talkin about shootin up coke and dope together, you aint talkin about a speedball. its a word with a specific meaning yo.

and when you take away the 'speedballl' part of it, this thread aint nothin but a post about drug combinations,so ima merge or move it to the right spot once i find it.
 
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Well put. It the most amazing feeling I have ever enjoyed. My favorite TREAT. It so important to me that I keep it in that context. I can't live in The Garden. Many smart nice people have tried to stay too long before me and I hear and read the consequences.
It is actually sad that the pharmaceutical companies and private research have no financial incentive to explore making this safer - Or perhaps better and straight up safe. Wouldn't That be great. They all know that recreational use will never be legalized in their lifetimes and don't /won't pursue it. What ever happened to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness? Self determination.
I may be wrong and often am but I don't believe the State is my keeper.

Womp Womp - Warm and wonderful and a doorway into that very special place for me.


K'd-OUT-in-AZ said:
Unfortunately not for me. There isn't a pharm that can kick in as fast as a needle to the arm. Thats the appeal of a speedball...an instant rush of stimulated opioid euphoria...or however you want to describe it. WOMP WOMP ;)
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only gotten desoxyn three times in my life but desoxyn 15mg + oxy 120mg + 2mg xanax was bliss.
 
Sepher said:
Heroin + Crack in the same syringe is huge. I wouldn't recommend it though cos it's death on a stick if you get the amount of either wrong. Heart attack city that one.

Sepher
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i totally have to agree with u here budd.....
crack and coca period will rock ur world!!
and then u mix that with some brown or some 80s or 8's is just the best most intense feeling i have ever experienced


fuck any other way to do speedballs YOLA N OPIATES r where its at....dnt even waste ur time otherwords........
 
I imagine there'll be some srys resistance, but I'll just say it. Coke/crack + pharm-opes isn't really speed balling, unless you know damn well what you're doing.

I'm pretty sure that if you're IV'ing the opes you'll be getting closer to where you want to be, but have (quite recently, actually) witnessed a scenario that really made me doubt the pharms+coke/crack approach. Some people had a ton of crack, and a ton of high-strength oxy. They were smoking crack and snorting oxy as much as they pleased. The general concensus was that the oxy may as well have not even been there.
I'm thinking that if the oxy was being mainlined (not something I really approve of, in general), and people were going easier on teh crack, some kind of balance could've been achieved, but if that whole anecdote taught me anything, speedballing is much more of "be sure you can have the strongest, quickest raises in opes/coca's, and know how to balance them to get the true speedball. Can't say I've ever seen that work in reality (due to limited friends/acquaintances who'd really 'pursue' speedballing techniques), but I have seen people w/ just crack (not IV'd coke, just crack), who had tons of 30mg IR oxy on the table, and they'd keep forgetting to do the oxy, they'd talk shit about it every time they did it / bitch about wasted $ on the oxy, and the ones who tried to go hard-in w/ the oxy to "make it happen" just ended up feeling sick/nausea from the oxy, and wished they'd just rocked it out properly.
After knowing how that whole night went - a night where people had unlimited rock and oxy, yet were thorougly unimpressed - I suspect any 'true' speedballing is probably best down w/ IV's of coke and (diesel, dope, whatever), by someone who knows what they're doing. Most of those in my aforementioned anecdote would've far preferred, in retrospect, to have just gotten more crack instead of the oxy's. They were barely noticing the oxy, unless they were taking so much that they were getting sick from it...
 
Khadijah said:
those aint speedballs.

if it aint coke and dope mixed up in the same shot, it aint a speedball, straight up.

not only is the shit you said not speedballs but they obviously aint IV neither. even coke and dope sniffed in the same line aint a speedball. IV only yo.

the real name for the shit u did would be "doing speed and vicodin at the same time." or doing speed and dilaudid at the same time."

im mad sick of all the cats on here who be like "i did tramadol and ephedrine together--awesome speedball!"

I seen people on here talk about taking Ritalin while they drink liquor and call it a speedball. or adderall and xanax. people dont even limit it to opiates and uppers no more, shit, theyy just think any downer counts. Shit, wats next, drinking coffee while takin valerian root vitamins?

a speedballl AINT just a all purpose name for "any slightly stimulating substance that you take at the same time as any downer-type substance."

Do you ask the bartender for a sprite and vodka when you really want a rum and coke, becuz they are both a soda with a liquor? Hell no.

You guys who do e pills and all that shit, when you take acid and MDMA yall call it a candyflip right? Would you call it a kittyflip instead? No, thats E and K.

So why the fuck does everybody use 'speedball' like its just a general-ass word for pretty much any fuckin combination of any kind that involves a upper and a downer? anyways, coke and amphetamines aint even close when u shoot em up.

it aint uppers plus downers or opiates plus uppers or wtfever. If you aint talkin about shootin up coke and dope together, you aint talkin about a speedball. its a word with a specific meaning yo.

and when you take away the 'speedballl' part of it, this thread aint nothin but a post about drug combinations,so ima merge or move it to the right spot once i find it.
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We ALL know specifically what it represents.... "Coke n' Heroin" ... but not all of use use those drugs anymore or want to..... So we give a little lee-way, HENCE the title "Pharmaceutical Speedball .... "

So yes we understand only true badasses shoot up coke and heroin together; unfortunately for you Speedball is a quite general term these days.
 
specifically speedball = IV heroin + coke (same shot)

Generally speedball = Combining uppers with certain downers, or opiates. To achieve a synergistic effect.
 
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