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The Old and Overgrown Methylone Thread (11-2002 to 2-2007)

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Sorry for getting off topic, but what doses do you usually use with 2C-B, or other 2Cs? 20 to 50mg is a threshold dosage at best of MDMA for most. And methylone is even less potent.

With the 2Cs, I have found with most I do not need much (16mg of 2C-E was WAY more than I needed for a +3), but I find the standard 120mg for MDMA and 180mg for methylone to be best. And I have used as little as 100mg of methylone and 50mg of MDMA. So I have tried lower dosages.
 
who mE? said:
To summarise I definately do not feel that under 180mg Methylone is a waste... Although I suppose it all depends on what you are looking for.
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This was posted earlier in the thread but didn't seem to be recieving any attention, so a mod reccomended I repost this query:

Is it reasonable to think that 'plugging' it might work? I've heard MDMA absorbs very well this way, but if you're saying that nasally it didn't do anything, maybe something about the ketone effects absorbtion, and the same would apply to plugging.

Any ideas on this one guys? I'm sure there are some of us who would enjoy plugging methylone (despite the humor) - you could squeeze 10 doses out of a gram that way. Any speculation? Would perhaps 70mg rectally be a good baseline to start from ?
 
Oceanbear: thank you for this advice, I will definately plan to try "full dose" methylone in the company of my (soon to be) wife in the mid-term future (6 months?). Do you believe it is best experienced in the company of nobody else? or a large social gathering? or a small social gathering? or together followed by a social gathering of some sort?

When you say E-brake you are referring to a hangover right? I got a noticable hangover (didn't do anything other than watching the simpsons and smoke mj the following day, which is very out of the ordinary for workaholic me).

I do however notice something about methylone which makes it seem worthwhile to me at even 50mg... it however is very difficult to describe... maybe I should call it the "all the BS I put up with in the last week was worthwhile" effect.

Something unusual about me is that even though I've experienced 60+ substances, I do not seem to experience the "plateau effect" so often referred to by others... taking a low dose of any given substance feels much like the high of a high dose experience in miniature. There is an exception to this rule, where certain toxic effects begin to be noticable at higher doses that were not noticable at lower doses. For example alcohol is always a sociablizer with body malaise for me at any dose, however the nausea effect begins at 50ml (yes I'm a lightweight). I definately do not have the phenomenon described by my friends where they feel that 70mg MDMA is a waste, whereas 100mg is enough to "get off".

I really wonder why this is? ADD? Bipolar? Done too many drugs?
 
who mE? said:
Do you believe it is best experienced in the company of nobody else? or a large social gathering? or a small social gathering? or together followed by a social gathering of some sort?
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I would like to add that MAOI does not seem to affect this chemical in any way. I ingested about 5g harmala/harmala tea along with 150mg +50mg insuffilated boosters every 25min to reach a total of 350mg with no potentiation at all. I'm not very impressed by this chem. It does seem alot less harmless than MDA or MDMA but the cost is not worth it if you ask me.
 
Methylone

Simple question and excuse my chemistry ignorance.

Is 2-Methylamino-1-(3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl)-propan-1-one the same as 2-Methylamino-1-(3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl)-propan-1-one hydrobromide ?

Thank you!
 
hydrobromide is the chemical salt form of a chemical. However, they are not the same chemical as far as a psychedelic....I have no experience with methylone, but I'd guess the freebase (the chemical in base form without reacting it to form the salt) form might not be active orally
 
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hydrobromide is the chemical salt form of a chemical. However, they are not the same chemical as far as a psychedelic....I have no experience with methylone, but I'd guess the freebase (the chemical in base form without reacting it to form the salt) form might not be active orally
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The freebase would convert into the hydrochloride salt in your stomach. Same reason why cocaine freebase (crack) is active orally.
 
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From all the reports I've read, most people say Methylone felt like a waste if taken below the ~175mg level.
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My best friend really enjoyed coming up at 135mg... he then got so excited that at T+40 he insufflated a further 50mg... he had a GREAT time. The hedonistic imperative, totally.
 
i agree with hydrobromide. anything below 175mg is a completely waste of time and good precious methylone.

below and above 175mg is just as different as night and day !
 
Is the dosage you are suggesting depending on the weight of the subject? 175mg for me and 175mg for my wife that weighs 100lbs less than I do?
 
I've taken methylone a good half-dozen times, and I've shared it with others. In my experience, weight does not play a role in dosage. Everyone I have shared it with preferred levels at or over 175mg. I'd agree with the above...anything under 175mg is not the same experience as above that mark.
 
As mgs said here. weight plays no role in this.

it seems to me there's somethings of a quantitive difference that leads to a qualitative leap past the 175mg dose.
 
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