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The Old and Overgrown Methylone Thread (11-2002 to 2-2007)

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I think a booster is absolutely mandatory with methylone, it just wears off too fast without it. Optimum dosage for me is 180mg with a 70mg booster 90 minutes in. It doesn't increase the effects so much as it sustains and evens out the experience. 'Excess stimulation' has only been a factor for me when boosting with something over 120mg or so. I wouldn't even call it excess stimulation, more like confusion and pixalated vision. I've found what's excessive for some is perfect for others too, like my friend who's idea of boosting is to take another full dose. Too much for me, perfect for him.
 
I'm curious if anyone has experimented with a Methylone/MDx combo... I am very interested in trying a small dose of this with some good MDMA and seeing what happens. Or maybe MDA to bring the visuals to the experience.
 
MagickalKat777 said:
I'm curious if anyone has experimented with a Methylone/MDx combo... I am very interested in trying a small dose of this with some good MDMA and seeing what happens. Or maybe MDA to bring the visuals to the experience.
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Yep! Quite astounding and highly recommended. MDMA & methylone make for a 4 hour orgasm of joy. Superb!
 
Hmmm... any increase in negative side effects with that combination?

I'm wondering because I've grown to love MDA and MDMA is too pushy for me. I'm quite curious about an MDMA/methylone combo. Or maybe all three together. I just picked up some pills that are definitely a strong MDMA/MDA combo, no meth and caffeine doesn't phase me - maybe a half of one of those and a moderate dose of methylone for a good night?

Would you recommend the MDMA/methylone combo be taken in a house party type setting or a party type setting? Sorry for asking so many questions but it looks like there's a good chance of me getting my chance soon.
 
Winding Vines said:
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What dosage of each did you go for? I was debating a combo with 120mg of methylone and 50mg of MDA.
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I went with 80 mg MDMA and 180 mg methylone. Took the MDMA first an then after 20-30 minutes took methylone. I was with three friends and they had taken a liitle bit more of each. We were lounging around listening to music waiting to come on when the other two decided they were getting bored because they felt they were not coming on... we were then at the 50 minute mark. I got up to get something when it hit me all at once... both MDMA and methylone. I turned to the other two and told them they should stand up. When they did it was like somone turned a switch on . They were both immediately 'on'. We were all pretty blown away by what was happening and I continue to feel it was the most profound empathogenic experience yet. No significant fallout the following day except for a general malaise which was easily attributed to staying up till the wee hours talking and listening to music.


I feel this is a combo that would best be done in an intimate setting with good music , intimate friends or lover. It will absolutely floor you with euphoria. Can't see it being a combo to take for dancing.
 
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For me, there is a small window for the right dose of methylone. Anything less than 175mg isn't all that great, while more than 190mg is too much.
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Defianetly,I'll reguarly dose 180mg with 20-30mg booster anywhere up to 3hours later..I dosed 210mg this morning,i needed some healing:(Anyway....the difference is phenomenal:)
Truly a special substance,up there with DMT,MDMA and Mushrooms.

Now to ruminate on being ejected from Christmas dinner with my famil and exiled back home:\ ----800km........12 hr bus trips on Chrissy day are rad8)

I feel GREAT now though=D
=D =D=D =D

Merry christmas and a happy new year everyone:D
 
Oceanbear said:
I went with 80 mg MDMA and 180 mg methylone. Took the MDMA first an then after 20-30 minutes took methylone. I was with three friends and they had taken a liitle bit more of each. We were lounging around listening to music waiting to come on when the other two decided they were getting bored because they felt they were not coming on... we were then at the 50 minute mark. I got up to get something when it hit me all at once... both MDMA and methylone. I turned to the other two and told them they should stand up. When they did it was like somone turned a switch on . They were both immediately 'on'. We were all pretty blown away by what was happening and I continue to feel it was the most profound empathogenic experience yet. No significant fallout the following day except for a general malaise which was easily attributed to staying up till the wee hours talking and listening to music.


I feel this is a combo that would best be done in an intimate setting with good music , intimate friends or lover. It will absolutely floor you with euphoria. Can't see it being a combo to take for dancing.
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Awesome. Just what I was looking for! Thanks!
 
^this combo will lead to a much more acute serotonin dump - and my cause subsequent depletion-related depression, if you are prone to such.

the overtly benign nature of methylone proves somewhat deceptive. the depression which was first felt two days after a 190 mg methylone only dose lasted over a week. those low on serotonin advised to think twice.
 
Interesting. I don't see methylone being worse than a high dose MDMA/MDA combo pill... if it is... well, maybe I should look elsewhere.

But then again, I've never truly "crashed" since my first time...
 
I've myself never crashed with methylone, but i certainly did with MDMA. This being said, i agree with nanobrain that the smooth benevolent nature of methylone shouldn't trick people into taking it for granted and thinking that it's so benign you can pop it like peanuts. It's powerfull stuff. It's really like iprocin to some extent in that its smooth and benevolent quality should not be confused with its awesome psychedelic power which can quite kick your ass if you don't approach it the way a psychedelic should be.
 
I'm not talking about consistently eating methylone. Far from it. I feel like it is going to be one of those rare treasures of the psychedelic society and I've grown up a lot more than that. Notice that you don't see very many posts on the psychedelic forums from me anymore.

I finally respect the power of the psychedelics and I use them sparingly. Ecstasy is a slight exception to the rule but that is changing after New Year's too.

Methylone, a-MT, and 2C-T-7 are on my list. Then I am done with research psychedelics. I can't wait to do a-MT again... its been so long.
 
I experienced no cross tolerance with the methylone MDMA combo but I know both of the compounds fairly well and know my body's response to them. Hence, for me this was a fairly benign dose. what I am much more interested in and have not tried yet would be to add the methylone at about the 90 minutemark after the initial MDMA dose. This would substitute for boosting with MDMA and could stretch the euphoric properties of both compounds. If anyone gets around to a timed combo like this please report back.
 
Another question for those with experience with Methylone...

Has any of you tried any of the "J" Series of chemicals (BDB, MBDB..etc.)? If so, how does Methylone compare to them in terms of effects?
 
Great question... I was wondering about the same. I've heard tell that some like MBDB more than Methylone but that the dose required is significantly higher which makes the product that much less enticing, price considered.
 
Jamshyd said:
Another question for those with experience with Methylone...

Has any of you tried any of the "J" Series of chemicals (BDB, MBDB..etc.)? If so, how does Methylone compare to them in terms of effects?
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just out of curiosity why is it called the "J" series? whats the labeling sceme based on ?I've never heard of this before.
 
Jamshyd said:
Another question for those with experience with Methylone...

Has any of you tried any of the "J" Series of chemicals (BDB, MBDB..etc.)? If so, how does Methylone compare to them in terms of effects?
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Well I'll tell you that I thought MBDB was absolute crap! I threw mine away after the first and only experience. It's was like taking psychedelic quaaludes but without the fun. Worst jawclenching ever and I don't even get that with MDMA. As soon as I was sufficiently off the peak I took a Xanax and went to sleep. No empathic feelings just a sort of slogging around in the head drunk-like feel with a buzz.
 
Thanks for all your insight, Oceanbear :) It is appreciated.

Subdefy: I was refering to the PiHKAL nomenclature. If you look in PiHKAL, you'll see that these chemicals are all named J, Methyl-J...etc.
 
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