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The Old and Overgrown Methylone Thread (11-2002 to 2-2007)

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So far this thread hasn't contributed anything of value to this forum, at least as far as specific information in methylone. Since no one has any information to add I am closing it. If you have a methylone experience to share, you may post it in the Trip Reports forum.
[ 02 February 2003: Message edited by: morninggloryseed ]
 
Methylone - 1st experience.

Ok, so I've read up and around and my curiosity was piqued regarding Methylone. I'm frankly not all that impressed, so this report will be short :)

168mg of methylone was weighed out, and ingested with some coke. First effects manifested at 1/2 hour..

But frankly, the entire thing felt like a vague amphetamine effect with a small touch of some different headspace..

The one crystal clear effect I noticed was my girlfriend happened to call.. Suddenly I was swept away in emotion while talking to her, and we would up having a very interesting and candid conversation.

Thats about it.

Next time, I'm gonna wait at least a few weeks and try 200mg :)

Peace.
 
Methylone is very set/setting dependant. The first few time I tried it I was very unimpressed. Then I took it with a girlfriend in the desert and had a truly mystical experience.

I recently took some with my current girlfriend and we had an experience every bit as magical as any MDMA experience.

Just got to find the right setting.
 
I know.. it was SO curious. There was really no effect to speak up, and certainly nothing "exotic" about the flavor - until such time that I spoke to somebody I am emotionally bonded with. Suddenly, everything chaged.. Never had a substance before that depended so much on _emotion_ to render it's effects.

From what I read, however, I should probably wait a month or two before re-dosing :)
 
I totally agree with MGS. I had an awesome experience with my girlfriend on 150mgs my first time. I also took a booster dose of 50mgs after that. The second time, I was unimpressed with 190mgs with a booster of 50mgs. Just the other day I took 200mgs with a booster of 50mgs after a couple hours, and I was blown away. I loved it. I was with a friend, and we just went on a walk. I will post these experiences in the trip report section now.
 
Methylone tolerance questions

I tried methylone about 5 days ago and not only did I find it to be very enjoyable and useful but surprisingly it seemed to help my anxiety disorder quite a bit. For this reason I am very attracted to this chemical and am thinking about using it today. How quickly will you develop tolerance to this drug? And does it tend to lose its magic like MDMA and DXM after you have done it a certain amount of times or too often? I would like to use this drug fairly often(too bad it is so expensive:( ) but if if it will no longer be enjoyable after frequent use I will only use it occasionally(I already learned that lesson with DXM, which used to be my favorite drug:( )
 
if you read on erowid, there are experiences that state that the magic is indeed lossed with abuse. actually, i think all drugs will lose their effect with too frequent use. i personally won't use methylone more than a few times a year, it's too precious an experience to lose.
 
During my trials, weekly usage was effected after about the 3 week point of dosing every weekend for a month and a half. At the end of the trial the effects I once sought had turned mostly to a somewhat confused mental state with little or no insight into my life. Granted it is quite possible that there was nothing more to analyze and it was just time to work the stuff out in real time. Non the less it's best to save the methylone for when you really need it.

On a side note after about 8 months off the Methylone it is now back to full effect and I hope to keep it that way. Peace, Spinal
 
Low doses of methylone

What's the lowest dose of methylone you feel is worthwhile?

I recently took 57mg of methylone. (My normal dose is 150-175). I wasn't expecting much, but it was definitely perceptible, and quite nice. Just the tiniest push, and a feeling of well-being and sociability. I was at a small barbeque dinner party. After dinner we played "Settlers of Cataan", a really complex resource-management style German board game that normally would have driven me crazy.

I went ahead and pre-loaded with 400mg magnesium, 500mg l-tyrosine and 50mg 5-HTP, which may or may not have potentiated it. Also had two beers on the comeup.

It was nice, but I'm not sure I would use doses that low on a regular basis. It wasn't really "an experience", and I have no plans to begin using methylone, or any other research chemical, on a regular basis as mere social lubricant.
 
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Two Valentine's days ago, my girlfriend and I treated eachother to a pro massage and sauna. We took 100mg of methylone prior. The effects were gentle, but still not mild. Nice gentle trip and I enjoyed myself completely. I don't know what else to say. But I'd say 100mg is the minimum entactogenic dosage. Below that, it is probably just more social in nature.
 
I probably wouldn't take less than 150mgs, though I could imagine it being worthwhile. I like to be hit hard by entactogenic drugs, as well as stronger psychedelics, but I can enjoy myself much more thoroughly on lower doses of mushrooms as opposed to lower doses of an entactogen. I just don't feel like I got enough on the lower end. It's probably because of the stimulant properties. I am the same way when I use Amphetamine/Cocaine. I need to reach a certain point to be satisfied.
 
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Piper, how much methylone satisfies your desire for a strong entactogenic/empathogenic experience?

The only reason I haven't touched methylone yet is because I'm afraid it will be too weak (and I don't have the cash to try everything).

Is it possible to even equate methylone intensity with mdma intensity?
 
I have yet to try methylone but it will be in my posession very shortly. I know that when I don't take enough E i get very sleepy and usually fall asleep. I don't get any pleasurable effects whatsoever when I underdose. I usually have eat atleast 2-3 very good pills to feel anything unless I'm on another drug or have taken pcp recently. Maybe(probably) I'm just wierd when it comes to taking E.
To avoid this while still trying to conserve is it possible to smoke methylone, how much stronger is it when snorted?
 
my rule of thumb is 3x times strength for snorting anything. so ~75mg for snorting should be more than effective.
 
Yeah, also when you put drugs up your ass or nose, it just means yer that much more of a cool guy. Nothing the women love more than a guy who puts things up their poopchute... and if you wanna be a shaman, its hard to get much more spiritual than poking your finger around your doodie hole.
 
bluedolphin, 150-175mgs is enough for me, though I've tried up to 200mgs at a time. Methylone is something that has to be enjoyed for what it produces. It's not an overpowering entactogenic experience like MDMA/MDA can be. Personally, there is just something about Methylone that attracts me. It's something I could use more often than I could use MDMA/MDA (which are a once/twice a year things for me). From what you have said, Methylone may not be intense enough for you, but there is only one way to find out. It is expensive though. However, I HATE weeding through pills, looking for ones that contain only MDMA or MDA. Those are the only ones I will take. I like to know what and how much of something I am taking when it comes to Amphetamine/Amphetamine-like drugs.
 
I've experienced Methylone at 40mg and 50mg orally... I've not yet tried higher, because I was waiting for a special occasion for a higher dose...
40mg was definately perceptible... I took it cause I was going to a crazy mountain party with fire performers and I was sleepy and dragging ass... It definately got me into that dancing mood, and had me talking to everyone there who seemed interesting (not like MDMA where you strike up conversations with people lying on the floor fucked up).

One thing I really found interesting with both experiences was the way I was self-reflecting about the emotions pushed on me. I know many can identify with falling in "love" on MDMA, however this can be described as "falling in like" and then realising that the Methylone contributed towards my opinion of another person!

The 40mg experience had no definite come-up and upon smoking a bowl at T+3 or 4H it "vanished into the night" as PIHKAL so often said about a glass of wine at the tail end of mild experiences.
The 50mg experience was notably more intense, and while still not overpowering had a noticable onset and the tail end of the experience lasted from 3H to 6H. This time had much more energy involved, and even involved some reflection to the previous time as I was at the same location with essentially the same crowd (except the 2nd time the party got busted by undercover cops, who charged the property owner under the crack-house law! I hope him and the ACLU's lawyers give them hell...)

To summarise I definately do not feel that under 180mg Methylone is a waste... Although I suppose it all depends on what you are looking for.

My next methylone experience will be 110mg at a massive on June 26th (EDC) at the tail end of 2CB.

It should be known that I typically dose 50mg MDMA, and enjoy as little as 20mg MDMA... I've never exceeded 100mg MDMA as I feel 80mg is more than enough.
 
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