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The Old and Overgrown Methylone Thread (11-2002 to 2-2007)

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One more thing to add, if you decide to go with the rectal route, drop the dosages a bit. Whereas 150mg orally is nice, but not too overwhelming, using a solution of methylone containing 150mg by the rectal route has a seriously quick, fairly intense come-up. For rectal admin, 125mg gives the same sort of effect as 175mg orally.

With a soln, you get the first alerts at the 5 min mark, and by 15 mins, it feels like you've been strapped to the side of a Saturn 5 rocket!


I heard a strong dose of methylone to be 250mg, do some people take more than this?
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250mg would be uncomfortable for most people without a tolerance; every report I've read about doses over 250mg have generally said it's not pleasant
 
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Next time I try methylone I definitely need to take it in a group setting. Last time I ended up eating 600-700mg by myself over 6-8 hours trying to get the approximately 30 min peak to come back, with no luck. I can't imagine any dose of methylone being uncomfortable in my body.
 
Taking a large (250mg +)without tolerance, high doses can leave you feeling that you're so light headed that you're going to pass out. That's not pleasant by any stretch of the imagination.

Once you've had the initial dose though, you can waste a lot trying to get it back by taking more
 
Shelf Life / Storage of Methylone (Liquid)

Hi, does Methylone have an "outlive you" shelf life like MDMA? Its in Liquid form, should I keep it dry, cool, dark? Would the fridge help matters?

Thanks :)
 
Yeah, cool place, out of light should keep it OK for quite a while (years) as phenethylamines are generally fairly stable compounds; the only exception I can think of is cathinone (2-aminopropiophenone), and that's because it's a primary amine and a ketone next to each other (condensation dimer is a piperazine)
 
Methylone is very unstable in (aqueous) solution and spoils quickly. Fastandbulbous, it seems you didn't realize that methylone is also a 2-aminopropiophenone?
 
Fastandbulbous, it seems you didn't realize that methylone is also a 2-aminopropiophenone?
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Yes, but it's a secondary amine (a 2-(methylamino)propiophenone), so you don't get the keto-amine condensation to form substituted schiff bases (imines). Short of getting an oxidizing agent into the mix that could cause cleavage to 3,4-methylenedioxybenzoic acid, there isn't a lot to go wrong with a salt of methylone (unlike methylone in basic soln - not a salt - where keto-enol tautomerization could result in the formation of an imine from rearrangenment of the bonds, which could cleave to 1-(3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl)-1-hydroxy-2-propanone and methylamine) and every source of methylone I've come across supplies it as the hydrochloride salt, not the freebase.

Keep the top on (to prevent oxygen getting access to the soln) and it should be stable for a long time
 
Ok tried this substance today. Was quite unimpressed. Took 90mg and half an hour later another 90mg. Maybe i should have taken it all at once. But with mdma i prefer to space it a bit, so did that with methylone. First few hours nothing but some tension in the body, and later on dysphoria. Three hours after the last dose i took some (50mg) 5-htp, and 20 mg inderal (had taken magnesium earlier) because i was having some palpitations. A while later i got a pleasant lethargy and somewhat enjoyed myself. No euphoria, not more than plus1 on shulgins scale.
Maybe taking deprenyl (1,25 or 2,5 mg four times per week for two weeks) until seven day's or so before this experiment might have taken away the euphoria. I don't know. But this was really unimpressive.
A friend liked it a lot at just 125mg.
I don't get this.
 
^^^ In my experiences I've found the best dose is 180mg followed by 60-75 mg 90 minutes later. The initial 180mg should be fine on it's own, the booster helps prolong the experience.
 
The comedown from Methylone is pretty long but without a booster the peak seems to fade really fast, like within a couple hours of ingestion. The booster makes the peak last a couple hours longer and the comedown feels more gradual. More evened out I guess. Just my experience of course.
 
I tried methylone once. It was 200mg in a gel cap. The main effects lasted around 3.5 hours. The comedown was gentle, but left me feeling very lethargic and almost unable to move.
 
Would you say that you feel lethargic and unable to move on the come down from your average pill as well, Jaw Clenching?
 
I know I'm bumpin a thread from the dead here, but just trying to see if there's anyone else working with methylone lately?

I've just had my first few tastes of methylone recently. I've been using it in the form of Explosion and I'm not sure if I've got the 180mg or 250mg vials. My vials appear to measure out at about 3.5ml pretty consistantly. I've sampled three times so far from 2.5ml (the 3rd time) up to a full 3.5ml the first time.

Although I've done a shitload of acid, shrooms and various RCs, I do have to admit I've never taken E. The saddest part of that is I was 'around' when it was still legal, I was just too caught up dropping acid at the time to snag it up. Anyway my loss... 8)

So I've had a sample of methylone here and while I like it, at the same time there's something really uncomfortable about it, at least for me. It feels GREAT, but at the same time the jaw clenching and muscle tension is very uncomfortable. ESPECIALLY during the comedown.

I've read here that some people find boosting it to result in uncomfortable stimulation. So I wrote off the negative symptoms the first time since I boosted at the one hour point. The second and third experiences were without a booster and were both lower doses.

And I mistakenly assumed from my readings that is was short acting. Yes, the peak is definitely short acting. However, the come down takes QUITE a bit of time. The first time I took it I had it around noon. Altough the peak was over in a few hours, I wasn't able to sleep until 6am the next morning. Maybe that's just me though.

The first time I took it, I figured I might have gotten the 250mg vials and it was just too much for me. The ride itself was great the first time. No nausea, etc but the jaw and muslce tension was terrible. Today, the third time, I've cut it back to 2.5ml but I'm still having bad muscle cramps in my shoulders and neck. WTF.

Am I still just dosing too high for me or is this just something you have to deal with? I don't have any mineral deficiencies and take Mg, Ca, etc daily. I really want to share this with someone really close to me, but I don't want them to have the same problems. My partner is VERY inexperienced with this type of thing but is willing to try. I don want a bad first experience for them to be the last.

Maybe this one just isn't for me? Coming down my first time I couldn't sleep for a long time as mentioned above. The second time I was a groucy miserable prick during/after the comedown and was depressed for a few days after. Currently I'm at 8 hours after dosing my third time with it and the neck cramps are very uncomfortable.

Any suggestions or related experiences would be greatly apprecieated. People seem to have good comments about this one, so I'm feeling a little disappointed right now.

Oh yeah, FWIW, while I do get horny on it, this stuff could create a market for viagra in my experience. I enjoy sex on psychdelics more than anything, but it's completely pointless (haha) with methylone from my experiences thus far...

-gp
 
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Would you say that you feel lethargic and unable to move on the come down from your average pill as well, Jaw Clenching?
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Not really, the aftereffects of methylone are almost paralyzing for me. Normal E pills don't give me that feeling at all.
 
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