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The Old and Overgrown 2C-E Thread

Skrilla said:
Of course then there's DMT, which you can do every hour on the hour without building up any tolerance whatsoever (according to Strassman)

Well, with DMT though, you have to take into account its natural presence in the brain. And DMT tolerance stays the same every hour, yet, in my (admittedly limited) experience with 2C-E, there is definitely a reverse tolerance... It's just a curious chemical all the way around.
 
I aquired some 2c-e a while back and upon sampling 5-6mg i got a somewhat speedy type of high with slightly enhanced audio and no real visual to speak of. it lasted for a long time. towards the end i got a really empty feeling and i didn't want to talk or it was hard to talk, it just didn't feel right, i just didn't feel right; i felt like my had blown my brains out and not in a good way, and very withdrawn. this lingered for another day maybe slightly more then i was normal again. like a major serotonin dip or something. has anyone else experienced anything like this. i'm pretty experienced, grown piles of shrooms, had more than a hundred high dose lsd trips, done mdma and 2c-i a couple times, never experienced anything like this berfore. anyway, i've been kind of afraid to try the stuff again b/c of this 6 mg thing and i didn't even really "trip" off it. i read all your experiences and no one has mentioned this side effect happening to them. did i get bad 2c-e. it was from a supplier in NYC over the net. any input would be useful, thanks.
 
Has anyone tried to dose 2 days in a row on 2-CE?

Is this possible -or just waste of 2-CE-?

20mg @-CE last night-very colorfull +4, came back with the feeling of having unfnished business....
 
I've never dosed it two days in a row, but I did take it twice in the same day. I took the first dose(actually a combination of 2ci, 2ce and 4acodipt all in small quantities) at around 3 in the afternoon and took the second(just 2ce) at around 9:30. The first dose was definatly still there, but waning a lot. And the second dose was definatly not a waste. I actually took a relatively small dose of the 2ce for fear that it would be a waste, to my surprise it was very effective and drew the trip out for another 10 hours. I imagine the same would hold for two days in a row.
 
Meo, did you write a report on that combo, and if not can you briefly describe the quantities and effects? I've been curious about mixing low doses of drugs, 2c-e and 2c-i in particular.
 
No, I did not write a report on that for a couple reasons. The first is that I find it very difficult to adaquetly explain my trips in words. The other is that I don't want to encourage others to try combinations about which little is known.

I'm assuming that you are well versed in both 2ce and 2ci before mixing them. With that said, I'll give the highlights of the experience. I took the combination right after a heavy snow which made for a beautifull setting. The comeup was fine, just the standard jitteryness and such. Slight nausea, but nothing that a little weed wouldn't fix. At about the 1.5 hour mark, things began to really set in. Visuals started intensifying by the minute. After about fifteen minutes this plataued and left me relatively clear headed but with incredible visuals. I should point out that clear headed does not mean lacking introspect. I was hanging out with some friends whom I used to live with and really had a great time visiting. Conversation was hindered, but not impossible. The urge to converse though seemed to come in waves, aka I would go smoke a cig by myself then feel then need to share what I had been thinking about.

The visuals very impressive. Lots of rosetta/fractal type patterns. The bright snow made an excellent backdrop for the show. At points it was difficult to distiquish patterns from actual surfaces. For instance I had a hard time telling that the snow was 25 feet below me when I went out on the deck.

Overall I enjoyed the trip and have mixed 2ci and 2ce on occasions since, but I'm not suggesting that others should. 2ci by itself has limited appeal to me(lastnight helped to change my mind) but I find that it mixes very well with 2ce. It helps direct the mental aspects of 2ce in a more positive way.
I experience less of a headache from 2ci when I use it like this due of course to taking less. I hope this gives a general idea of what my experience was like. Please be careful if you do decide to try combining these and reduce your doses significantly.
 
I'd like to re-emphesize a point that 2c-e is not nearly as 'fun' as 2c-i is. It is definately more potent, i got my psychedelic ASS WHOOPED. But there was lots of pent up energy, jaw clenching, amphetamine-type feelings.
 
I kind of hate to say what the doses are(as I know some people are suspicious of my 2ce doses), but I will. Bear in mind that I have already mentioned my strong tolerance to PEA's in general. Ok, so this was it: 35mg 4-aco-dipt, 25mg 2ci and 20mg 2ce. This is much more that I would recommend anyone take, but it gives you an idea of the ratio's that I used.
 
^^ Thanks for sharing. You're right, those sound like pretty high doses. I can't quite imagine doing a combo at those levels myself, although combining those particular materials, at least 2C-I/E, is on my to-do list someday soon.
 
sweet jesus, you're a hardhead ;p I'm thinking maybe 10mg 2ci and 6mg 2ce to start out with. Need to get a little more experience with 2ce alone first though
 
Ok, so this was it: 35mg 4-aco-dipt, 25mg 2ci and 20mg 2ce. This is much more that I would recommend anyone take, but it gives you an idea of the ratio's that I used

Wow... sounds like quite a combo. I am the same way with tolerance, last time I took 4-HO-DIPT I had to take 44mg, and my last 20mg 2C-E trip wasn't quite what I thought it would be. I might have to try a combination like yours, sounds like it could be quite fun...
 
Skrilla said:
Wow... sounds like quite a combo. I am the same way with tolerance, last time I took 4-HO-DIPT I had to take 44mg, and my last 20mg 2C-E trip wasn't quite what I thought it would be. I might have to try a combination like yours, sounds like it could be quite fun...

Yeah, after a waiting period... Tolerance is a bitch. I'm going to take a break, I need to, my body has been telling me this for a while. And when I come back, after 2 to 3 weeks, I'm going to be able to trip again, and I'm going to keep it to every month or so... At least, I'm going to try to.


Anyway, this stuff is apparently extremely fluffy... I bought some empty capsules and weighed out a dose like I used to eyeball... Apparently, I was taking 10 to 12mg when it looked like 30 or so!
 
MagickalKat777 said:
Anyway, this stuff is apparently extremely fluffy... I bought some empty capsules and weighed out a dose like I used to eyeball... Apparently, I was taking 10 to 12mg when it looked like 30 or so!
 
I'm going to take a break, I need to, my body has been telling me this for a while

Me as well - actually I'm proud to say that I didn't trip Sunday - amazing, eh? lol Tolerance IS a bitch, for sure.

Anyway, this stuff is apparently extremely fluffy... I bought some empty capsules and weighed out a dose like I used to eyeball... Apparently, I was taking 10 to 12mg when it looked like 30 or so!

Are you talking about your 2C-E being fluffy? That's wierd - when comparing with mine, it didn't look near as fluffy, remember? Your 250mg LOOKED like way less than my 500mg. Maybe mine is just REALLY fluffy.

Eternalcrux - you quoted him but didn't comment ;)
 
I'm glad that people are deciding to reduce their drug usage. Since joining this forum I've been appalled at how often people trip. I personally believe that you need time to integrate what occurred during a trip, and tripping two times a week, or even more than two times a month is not going to allow that. I personally, will never go over two times a month, except of course, during the summer. I believe that is a time made especially for deep exploration.
 
Since joining this forum I've been appalled at how often people trip. I personally believe that you need time to integrate what occurred during a trip

That's true - but sometimes when you're just starting with a chemical and you don't know how it affects you yet, you start with very small doses and end up not tripping all that hard. So I don't think you need a lot of time to "integrate" when you don't trip all that hard. That's why I've been tripping more frequently, because it can be disappointing when you don't trip nearly as hard as you wanted to. Although I still enjoy it, there's not really all that much to integrate. Once I figure out my premium dosage for the chemical, I won't be eating it nearly as often.
 
My 2C-E experience

Don't know if this belongs in the Trip-Report section but sure i'll be moderated if it does.

I've had experiences with 2C-E on a number of times but nothing compares to my first experience.

After ordering a load of PEA's off a googled website (go on give me shit about it) I recieved them, but had no time to take them (working part-time an trying to complete my uni-degree). After about 2 months of them sitting around my flat I decided to try one (whilst drunk). Although I realise this is NEVER the time to experiment with drugs (especially those not fully tested) I went ahead (is'nt alcohol the most dangerous drug of all if it makes u do something like this!)

I insuffalated around 15mgs (I don't know I didn't have a scale at the time, agian do your worst!). I expected a quite nite in, I would relax, watch a movie (perhaps) and meditate on my life in general (what have I done, what do I hope to achieve?). After around 20mins, I was experiencing something that I could not contain in a social environment (my flatmate was chatting whilst preparing dinner). I had to retreat to my room! Whilst there I was ina vague, dreamlike state (according to my flatmate who monitored me throughout). My perception was that I had fallen asleep (or was at least so semi-concious that I would have made little sense). Upon awakining my most profound memory was of staring at the walls of my room. Along the walls were strips of angels and devils, the angles building my room and the devils destroying it. The strips were like those when you cut folded paper to create snowflakes, except these were colourfull and animated. Both seemed to be appearing in harmony, the devils were destroying whatever the angels created and the angles repairing whatever the angels destroyed. The only thing that I think that I could compare this to is the peyote scene in beavis and buthead do america and the "devil, angel pairing" suggested is PIHKAL. This seemed so beautiful and chaotic (in an organised kinda way) that I needed to share with Y'all...
 
You really do need to take advice on being more responsible. I am against insufflation of RC's. I am a natural/organic person when it comes to psychedelics, and just the fact of ingesting powder takes 1% of my experience from me. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against RC's, and I want to continue using them, but I just really like consuming organic psychedelics. Anyhow, with that said, insufflating it would be horrible for me. The 2C's work fine orally, so why do it any other way? The only RC's I would consider using otherwise are DMT and 5-MeO-DMT, which I would smoke or use IM, though I would much rather use Ayahuasca, and DPT which I would use IM. All others that I can think of that I've ever had an interest in work fine orally. How do you know that you got around 15mgs? 2C-E powder is beyond fluffy. I have measured what I thought were around two 20mg piles, and one turned out to be 16mgs, and the other 33mgs. I have also tried eye balling other chemicals before weighing them and have had many other wide range results. I'm not going to come down on you or anyone else though. I have made mistakes with other drugs in the past, but I just try to look out for people now because of that.

I have been talking about 2C-E alot lately. I really want to have a 20mg trip this summer. My 16mg trip had me in a fairy tale. However, I have been taking a break. My last trip was with 25mgs of Iprocin, and that was awesome. I am going to have a mushroom trip soon, and a morning glory seed trip soon, and then I should resume my experimentation with RC's.
 
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