The official tear each other's throats out thread (Unofficial Aus. Soc. sucks thread)

[GillyWin]

I need to clarify that I am speaking in general and wasn't regarding preacha's opinion in particular as being unwanted.

I was agreeing with the fact that opinions are your own, shouldnt be changed and the acceptance of them shouldn't alter your own belief in them.

 

[doofqueen]

doofqueen - you gotta chill mate. Every post I have seen of yours of late has been pretty fired up. Let some of the stuff go and accept that you probably won't get along with everyone.

I know i've been fired up lately but i only get fired up when i'm attacked. I don't attack people for the hell of it. I'm not preacha but yes i do realise i have to chill. I have been dealing with some pretty heavy personal issues lately and this zyban is fucking with my emotions to and i havn't been my calm peaceful self as always

Originally posted by doofqueen
ok so this is my issue of late ok (in all seriousness)

I usually bite my toungue on here and always have. I know my opinions and perspectives on issues is vastly different from the majority. Hence why i bite my toungue. I like chaos but don't want to ruffle feathers in a bad way so i don't (didn't rather) Then i decide "you know what? fuck it... i'm going to say exactly what i want about everything"

i disagree: there are plenty of people with controversial opinions on here (i have a few, wish i had more ), and not everybody hates them; nor do people hate you as much as you seem to think they do. in fact, if you didn't bite your tongue, people would probably appreciate it more. the problem is, people don't give a fuck about peoples' feelings on the internet: if they disagree with you, they're probably going to argue with you.

I think that's one of my problems actually, your right. I don't expect people to be insulting because i don't like to hurt people's deelings myself and just expect the same back - silly me....

no, that's what you're missing here. i doubt ANYONE here has levelled those complaints at you because of your opinions; people say those things because they perceive you as unable to handle any criticism *of* those opinions. when somebody tells you that they think doofs are *bad* for the environment, for example, it isn't a personal sleight against you; just a disagreement. it's cause for healthy debate, not cause for getting upset.

anyway, i don't mean to turn this into a DQ-bashing post (i just take umbrage is all), so if you'd like me to take this to private message (and delete this post) that is fine, just lemme know. however, i'd appreciate the opposite, as i don't think i'm being unfair; merely trying to arrange a diplomatic solution to said perceived problems.

Maybe i can't take critisism. Maybe i bite so people bait me. Maybe my thoughts are different so OTHER people feel critisised so that's why they critisize me... ever thought of that? I think it's pretty fucked up that i'm always the one people gang up on.

PS - I am sensitive. I am emotional. I am passinate and i also am a drama queen. That's who i am and i shouldn't have to apologise for it and people that know me accept this about me.

At least i admit to being a dramaqueen and an attention whore while others just do it in a sneaky way..... I think that's worse because at leaast i'm honest

*crosses arms and has a hissy fit*

 

[doofqueen]

Doofqueen, this isn't directed specifically at you. I am just interested in what you said, thus why i quoted you.

If you want to state your opinion, do. Just do it in a constructive way, rather than simply making a imflammatory comment, like the one onetwothreefour has already quoted (doofqueen, 2005 pg 5) .

I appreciate your opinions, i appreciate everyones opinons, but i think to hold an opinion, you must be able to demonstrate and communicate why you hold this view.

Look, i will be the first to admit, when i get exasperated, i can sometimes turn to a snide comment, which, probably, in hindsight isn't very nice. I do this in real life too. ANd i know that it isn't clever or witty, or in anyway indearing. So why do i do it? Because i get pissed off. But, in everyday situations, i know i should try and hold my toungue when it comes to those catty comments. Why shouldn't i hold my toungue here? The thing is i should.

But when it comes to expressing my opinions, i won't hold back. But, there is no point simply 'expressing and opinion' through bullshit, nasty comments. It gets you nowhere, only casues dramas and hurt.

People shouldn't afraid to talk about their thoughts and ideas relating to a topic. All they ahve to do, is know why they feel that way, and be able to effectively communicate it to their audience.

Most of us in here are people ... Most of us, though sometimes we may disagree with your opinion (we are human after all), will accept that this is a valid point. If you can express it with rationality and worth.

I think i do demonstrate my views in a constructive and effective manner. It makes sense to me. I don't see why i have to 'prove' myself before my thoughts are accepted as just that... my thoughts

Alot of people don't make much sense on here themselves so i could say the same about other people but who am i to judge how someone expresses their thoughts? If i am confused about what something said i will usually ask for clarification either in the thread or via pm before i go on because assumptions are the mother of all fuck ups I am one of many few on here that actually admits when they don't know something. I am not a pretencious wanker like some.

What people do forget is that we are humans behind our computer screens like you said. You mentioned that humans can be catty and snide. Humans should also be thoughtful and give a fuck about offending someone aswell. Not many people care about this because hey ... it's just the internet....

Discussion - the sharing of ideas. = good.
Conflict - bullshit name calling, and guessing what other people meant - often getting it wrong- and creating dramas. = worthless.

you do realise how ironic that was for you to say right?

 

[sux to be u]

Re: Re: The validation of Pleo's existence

I see you've downloaded NameDropPost 3.0 - an essential program for all bluelighters who's registration year ends in a 4 or a 5...

There's a plethora of those :D :D :D :D :D

 

[nickthecheese]

Rock on, i love this thread! Pleo have my babies before i have to namedrop you a bit more...pleo pleo pleo...mmmm it just rolls off the tongue...pppllleeeoooo...

I'm not going to be the only person who resents the presence of a shitload of people here.

Woohoo! I'm not the only hater; fuck the player, the game AND the ref!

gawd...if you are lame enough to threaten to leave the board forever you probably should.

Very good point leecie!
which is why AUTOBHAN was invented. remember bloo-lighters, Just put enough key words in like "oh whinge whinge i'm going to leave bluelight, all you bluelighters are stinky morons" just enough to trigger the script, or something, i think the words nab esaelp work.... give it a try

From the perspective of an ex mod/admin, I can tell you that the "not a democracy" line is simply used as a convenient way to be able to do whatever the fuck we wanted. It's even better when a regular bluelighter says it, because then the mod/admin doesn't look like a total arse hole.

Shhh!!! Next you'll be telling them the secret handshake and about all the hot midget access we used to get....

Maybe I should just start a, 'List everyone you don't like and why!' thread. Ohhh now that would be fun.

But we even had that one remember? BREAKaBEAT's famous Bluelighter you would most like to punch in the face

then mr kemical burn in all his glory started number 2 All you need is a punch in the face! take 2. marker!

let me just say RANDYCAVER again for posterity.

Rock on in a big way, this social catfight of epic proportions has been coming for a long time.

Can we move to some intelligent discussion about something other than the shite that passes for mainstream culture please?

 

[potato]

I don't think name-dropping threads are what's wrong with Bluelight. Sure, they're a bit cliquey, but nothing as nauseatingly sycophantic as the photo threads or gallerys. As long as there aren't too many name dropping threads i see no reason why they should go. I mean even Moe started one (long ago) - the BLers that have touched you emotionally IRL thread. If people dont like them then THEY DONT HAVE TO READ THEM. Wow! Freedom of choice.

To some people this is just an internet forum, a purely online community and the sole interaction is through cyberspace. For others it is both an online and a real-world community, and events IRL allow the two to interface. There's nothing stopping those from column A joining those in column B (if they so desire) but their own inhibitions. Those in column A have no reason to read threads like 'Describe a Bluelighter you've met lately', or "Which BLers touched you emotionally IRL". But they also have no right to complain about them.

Sure we dont want tonnes of useless name-dropping threads and one-word threads wasting space on the hallowed 'first page' of Aus social. But that doesn't mean we need a blanket ban.
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Doofqueen I must admit I dont know much about you but simply from reading your comments (and there are many!) in this thread you are coming across as someone with something of a persecution complex. I've read an awful lot of threads in aus social and I dont remember seeing people give you in particular a hard time.

Also, with respect to

*That *I* am the one that is the aggresser
*That i'm defensive and i take everything personally

Maybe everyone says this because you make aggro posts like the ones you've made in this thread. No one in here attacked you until long after you started to get defensive. Perhaps you need to adjust your sensitivity to such matters (ie grow a thicker skin, like Preacha advised us all. Sound advice Preach.)

All this being said you may want to think a little longer before you type and hit 'post', because the "Ignore" button is a wonderful feature, and people will use it.

 

[doofqueen]

Doofqueen I must admit I dont know much about you but simply from reading your comments (and there are many!) in this thread you are coming across as someone with something of a persecution complex. I've read an awful lot of threads in aus social and I dont remember seeing people give you in particular a hard time.

that's because i've already stated i was being a tool in this thread. They all stemmed off what other people have said to me in other threads. If you didn't notice them then you must be blind *shrugs* I only get agro when people disrespect me... again if your going by what i said in this thread (the earlier comments) then your as much of a tool as i was acting..

 

[ButrosButros_Grantos]

^^^Go weave a grass basket or something Just joking there.

It's easy to be disrespected when your views dont fall into the same catergory as nearly everyone elses. I'm slammed on a regular basis when I post in political threads because I'm liberal. I'm slammed about not caring for refugees when I'm honest.

Then again I get the same thing when I announce to a class of writers that I vote liberal, twenty heads turning towards me, eyes dripping malice.

I'm getting to the point.

While people may slam you out try not to take it too seriously, and if you cannot do that look at it this way, they're not justified in any attacks as although they may think their way of thinking/living is better it most likely isn't...

That or just say, they're obviously fucked...

It's funny looking back at all the threads on the first page and in them all the same thing is said over and over. This period of "not so good" happens all the time, nothing is ever really done about it, it just passes. I think once people become aware that the board is sliding then they take it upon themselves to try and bring the quality of posts up.

Although I would like to see all the B/shit threads moved to the longue.

 

[BloSs0m]

I think i do demonstrate my views in a constructive and effective manner. It makes sense to me. I don't see why i have to 'prove' myself before my thoughts are accepted as just that... my thoughts

I mentioned at the beginning of my post, it wasn't a direct hit at you.

But i think that if people are taking what you are saying - when words are all we have to go on - in the wrong way, then perhaps you should try and express your opinon in different phrasing, or in my case, using a ''. I think an example of when people weren't understanding 'your thoughts' was in the Kylie's breasts thread. All you kept saying was "You don't understand what i'm saying"...

If we don't undersatnd what you are saying, that is when you need to demonstrate your opinon in a rational and productive way, which will add to the discussion. Rather than just saying, "you don't understand".

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As for moving the "bullshit" threads to the lounge.. it is true that some threads may be better suited to the lounge, but there are some that work just as effectively in here. I think as potato said, there is no need for a blanket ban. Just simply a respect and understanding that you can't be a dick head, and that mods do what they have to do.

 

[doofqueen]

^^ i did try and explain. No matter what i said people still took it the wrong way. *sigh*

whatever... i really don't care anymore

 

[KemicalBurn]

I have to agree very much with BBGrantos regarding Anna...

I had..."problems"...with her. I too thought she was a nazi. But looking back, i was an absolute prick to her - she didnt deserve any of the shit i said to her and shit-talked about her. Ive since sent her a couple of PMs, and now things are cool (at least, i hope they are)

I just think its sad that it took me a while to figure out that she is an exceptional mod, and doesnt let her personal feelings get in the way of her doing her job. Proof of this, is the fact i am still here and havent been banned

Props to you Anna No mod cops as much shit as her, and she *still* takes it in her stride.

I think it might be time for another "off-topic" thread - one that doesnt turn into MSN-chat crap

 

[lostNfound]

inflection people, inflection. Without this on the internet, it's hard to undertsand exactly what some posters say unless they word themsleves in the best possible way to convey their message or point of view.

 

[KemicalBurn]

go fuck youself lostNfound!

 

[lostNfound]

eat a dick

EDIT - LET'S NOT GO OFF TOPIC NOW

 

[LiquidMethod]

Can't you find something else to talk about?
Is this song the only one you sing?
Makes you look better when you put things down?
Value your opinion!
Don't criticize my friends
criticize my ideas
Don't criticize my life style
I'm fed up 'cause all you wanna do is criticize.

 

[neverwas]

Props to you Anna No mod cops as much shit as her, and she *still* takes it in her stride.

*nods* i second that. i would be pissed off all the time if i copped a smuch shit as her

i *heart* anna!

 

[quiet roar]

Not too fussed about any of this but one thing that always perplexes me is how some threads get locked for being; useless, stupid, going nowhere, etc. when this forum is at least half full of those type of threads.

As I said, I'm not too fussed, but I'm sure people who start these threads are. Surely I'm not the only one who sees this.

And one last thing; you are all kidding yourselves if you believe aus social is somehow superior to the lounge - this is basically an aus based lounge.

 

[MazDan]

A few points to ponder.........

DQ.........Chill sweety, I dunno whats happenned recently cos i have sort of been bored by Aus social lately, but I do know that this is out of character for you and hence suggests to me that somethings not quite right............I respect you and am always willing to be an ear if you need one........PM me if you want.


Re ANNA...........God damn it Anna, you give me the shits so bad.............We have had our moments in the past when I have been a bit heavy handed in my handling of certain topics such as religion, but I have to admit that looking back, you were right and i was wrong.............and yes it gives me the shits having to admit it.............but Im not gunna let people put shit on you without sticking up for you cos i figure the chances are that most people who have the ability to be honest with themselves, would agree that you probably were right and they were wrong.............hindsight is so easy.........lol.

I think that truth be known, Anna tends to fall pretty much where she needs to as far as modding goes..........if she was to easy going then some of the older heads would scvream blue murder but if she was more heavy handed then the newer ones would go berzerk.




Bottom line peeps is that we the posters make Aus social what it is........we need to provide the material and provide it of a high enough quality that we will encourage the higher quality posters to post more often.

And leave the mindless threads to the mindless people.

 

[MazDan]

Oh and one other thing..........to the goose on page 1 or 2 who stuck the boot into Anna when they themselves have only been here since April 2005..........grow a brain.......who are you to make that sort of call after just one month???

 

[MooShiE]

First impressions perhaps? They usually are the impressions that last... but the date on someones nick doesnt usually mean how long they have been around, i for example have been here for a few years but my nick doesnt reflect that... ppl do change names ya knowz