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The Most Safe Psychedelic

While this is getting off-topic, I feel the love/hate relationship with 4-AcO-DMT is more to do with the psychological effects, rather than the physical, like mushrooms it can be a real rough anxiety-filled ride if you have problems in your life that it brings up. I personally see that as a benefit because it forces you to face these problems - but it is a shame when you just want a nice chill trip and you end up curled in the foetal position for 6 hours crying your eyes out haha.

Each time I used 4-AcO-DMT, there was a lot more than just mental anxiety - physically, my heart rate went above 130 resting each time and my blood pressure went up about 20 points (was 149/95 on one reading which is 30 higher on diastolic and 15 higher on systolic than normal) which means my heart was churning faster than it does on stimulants like methylone, mephedrone, and MDXX. Also, see below...

Don't know how much I trust RC's...being manufactered in Chineese factories with probably minimal regulations

There are no regulations in the Chinese RC manufacturing industry and most companies will not pay the cash to have their product analyzed for purity.
 
I find the 4-aco-dmt, to be less than a mushroom trip, more like 92%. My heart rate also rises, but it does so on dmt, and psilocin. Also my heart beat is not something that tends to make me nervous during a trip as it it to others. Some of my friends will say "my heart is beating faster" and take that, all the way to a bad trip because they couldn't quit focusing on it. When my heart beats fast i just let it beat and think nothing of it.

I'm going to just agree with you that different strokes for different folks. I have rather enjoyed this thread. Take care
 
The only thing I have to say about ketamine is it is one of the only addictive psychedelic. So please be careful.
 
Or you could attempt to grow your own shrooms - if I wasn't in an apartment I'd consider that, just an amount for personal use - as I think the respect you give to the life you are growing would effect the experience.

Yeah it really does, I love my mushrooms, it was a wonderful experience growing and comsuming them, gave those little guys a whole lot of love and they gave it me back :)
 
Also as for 4-AcO-DMT being safe, ever since I had a seizure on 28mg it has felt really unsafe since, the feelings it provides in my head now are very worrying so I dont bother taking it anymore.

Not to say that its safety profile isn't excellent just I dont trust it anymore..
 
merged and bumped to prevent deletion, as well as changed thread.

yes I know it is supposed to be 'safest' instead of most safe, but I am
creating a list in the index called: 'the most ... psychedelic'
 
interesting thread, i've heard david nichols mention and other BLers above mention how many psychedelics at reasonable doses dont target the human body in a life or death kind of way, but the classic psychedelics are clearly the "safest" (but perhaps not psychologically?)


the thing that always got me was how LSD was once a research chemical; and how when it was relatively new, thousands and thousands of people were using it !

i guess albert hoffman and owsley and others with psychedelic experience and good judgement must have felt it was somewhat safe after having some experience using it, and any product with happy customers is bound to get spread by word of mouth......

but still, the incredible power in such a tiny tab must surely have been somewhat disconcerting, at first
 
If you mean psychedelic in the broadest sense, then obviously cannabis is the safest psychedelic

^ this is also my view. the psychedelic experience can be felt / experienced with quality bud, hash, oil. It may or may not blow open the doors of perception but it will definitely give you a true peak in...

happy trails :)
 
What would someone reccomend as a psychadelic to me, Seeing as my mum is schizophrenic. ????

Ive already been warned off LSD because of this.


Done Ketamine, and Dxm. Thats the only psychadelics.

Considering AMT , 2cb atm
 
4-HO-DMT/Psilocibin/4-HO-MET. The 4-s I'd go for i.m. for a shorter trip with smaller dose, though, it's up to you.

In my opinion, I wouldn't go for phenetylamines cause they last long.

@up, my uncle is schizophrenic and to be honest I've heard from the doctor that any psychedelic, dissociative or deliriant drugs could induce hidden schizophrenia. But I am not afraid. Someone better experienced could answer you this.
 
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up, my uncle is schizophrenic and to be honest I've heard from the doctor that any psychedelic, dissociative or deliriant drugs could induce hidden schizophrenia. But I am not afraid. Someone better experienced could answer you this.

Even ketamine or DXM ???

Its a nasty mental illness, my mum dont even have anywhere to live , nor is she washing or eating properly.

Not something i'd want to run the risk of bringing out if i have it, But at the same time my biggest fear in life is that
What if there is no After life? I dont want to miss out on the chance of exploring things in life, Such as Psychadelics.

I dont actually care if there is or isnt an afterlift really, i just dont want to miss out on things :|
 
4-HO-DMT/Psilocibin/4-HO-MET. The 4-s I'd go for i.m. for a shorter trip with smaller dose, though, it's up to you.

In my opinion, I wouldn't go for phenetylamines cause they last long.

@up, my uncle is schizophrenic and to be honest I've heard from the doctor that any psychedelic, dissociative or deliriant drugs could induce hidden schizophrenia. But I am not afraid. Someone better experienced could answer you this.

I am diagnosed with schizoeffective, but I am high functioning enough and fortunate to handle myself pretty well, although I'm not as productive as I'd like to be, which is probably frowned on by society but oh well, that's probably the biggest change I've noticed about my attitude since taking psychadelics though, that I don't care as much about society and how the collective masses of people think, or what they think about, and I don't think that's necessarily a negative change. I wouldn't say positive either, because to me that would kind of be me justifying my use, I'd say neutral, but some positives are that I like myself better as a person, and I see myself more as an individual with a disorder, rather than just a person who has schizoeffective (being the disorder/label). I also think I'm more assertive than I was before I took psychadelics, because I like and understand myself more. But, whether this had anything to do with using them, or whether it would have happened without them is debatable, and I feel the same way about a mental disorder, whether they are brought out by psychadelics or would have been exposed anyway is debatable imo. I just think psychadelics cause you to confront your fears and issues head on, rather than pussy foot around them like I used to or not deal with them, put them on the afterburner, and I don't think there's any harm in that, of course they affect everyone differently, and for some this might be a bad idea, but a person like that would probably know who they are and what to avoid if they have a brain and know how they generally react to uncomfortable situations, if a person like that went ahead and did it anyway, they would get what they asked for, a schizophrenic state induced by drugs, and personally I don't feel sorry for people like that because they make responsible people look bad and make stigma and misinformation worse (like substances cause schizophrenia) which to me sounds like nonsense in most cases). But anyway, that's my two cents. And yea, I'd do shrooms or acid again, I've done dxm countless times since I've been diagnosed and never put myself in danger as well as salvia, nitrous etc, for me I respect each drug as a drug, therefore I don't consider my usage irresponsible, unless for example, I had to be at work at 6 am, and dropped a heavy dose of acid at 3 am, expecting to be at work on time or else I get fired, that would seem stupid to me, or any grown adult I think.
 
^^^

Okay, im actually going to put myself in the category that i think theres a good chance that im gonna get fucked up if i drop acid or mushrooms or something.

thank you for your long and informative post.

I will stick to what i know (mdma and K)
 
I'd say just get into a nice K-hole, this is because it is only about an hour and you are immobile while on high doses of Ketamine, that being said be careful, vomiting is not uncommon, have a safe sitter.
 
In my opinion, mushrooms are the safest psychedelic.

I say they are safer than acid, because taking acid is simply a matter of putting the LSD on your tongue, and then voila, you are past the point of no return, and you're in it for the long haul.

Mushrooms on the other hand, are a little bit harder to ingest, and don't last as long.

Therefor, I think it is easier to take too much acid than it is to take too much mushrooms. THey will both totally kick you in the ass if you over do it, but mushrooms at least don't last 10 or more hours.

If you're apprehensive about doing mushrooms, you can start with .25 - .5 grams just to see how they sit in your stomach, and what kind of effect they will have on your psyche at a threshold dose.

Some of you may say that .25 isn't enough to feel anything - however, if one is overly sensitive to psychedelic OR they are trying to determine if taking psychedelics is even for them at all, then .25 grams of mushrooms could very well be enough for a first time. Especially if they are an overly potent variety.
 
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