• 💊 OTHER DRUGS 💊 Welcome Guest
    Posting Rules Bluelight Rules
    Notable Threads 1 Notable Threads 2
    Dangerous Combos Addiction Support
    Emergency Services Benzo Guide v.1
    Addiction Stories Scary Case Studies
    Biology, Pharmacology & Drugs 101
  • Select Your Topic Then Scroll Down
    Alcohol Bupe Benzos
    Cocaine Heroin Opioids
    RCs Stimulants Misc
    Harm Reduction All Topics Gabapentinoids
    Tired of your habit? Struggling to cope?
    Want to regain control or get sober?
    Visit our Recovery Support Forums

RCs The Methiopropamine N-methyl-1-(thiophen-2-yl)propan-2-amine (MPA) Megathread

Status
Not open for further replies.
This is completely unconfirmed, but I found this interesting statement whilst searching for more information on methiopropamine...

...some Russians wanted to sell it (MPA) but even they were frightened by the side effects (and of course the risk of a backlash), but they are also a bit cross that some Westerners are already selling it.
Click to expand...
 
point of information

i've never posted in here, before but read it occasionally concerning the appearnce of obscure (realtive to my experience) chemicals.
I can only offer my personal experience of this chemical, but i am very sure that this has been present in crack cocaine in both oxford and middlesbrough (in the uk), my only evidence is base upon taste and feel, but there is no doubt for me personally i've had this befoe. And ill will offer in support uk crack is regullarly adulterated with the products of failed meth production.
This is a (relatively) safe drug to snort if you treat it like speed, watch fluid intake) and watch your dose, but i would suggest taking it very carefully if vaping.

I can ony justify this with my own experience, but i will say as its definitely a vasoconstrictor, this isnt one to push the boat out on.

Thanks T.
*ive jut realised the possible ambiguity i mean feel of the high not feel of the substance physically.*
 
Last edited:
DressedInBlack said:
I guess braincells showing up as phlegm is complete bullshit!? Or is this seriously the case?
Click to expand...

Well I can't confirm it's braincells obv. but I'm sure anyone who isn't rabidly trying to repress the truth who has tried chemicals, especially speed type ones, that after them you get a hoarse throat and have to clear it profusely of dense sludge which wells up like a bubbling cauldron in the lungs. My hypothesis is it's brain damage as I read the sinuses clear out the dead braincells from the brain (this much is founded so I am just putting ideas together based on that knowledge). Obviously it is only a hypothesis.

From my experience MDMA does this somewhat, but speed is worst and coke not at all (except ofc if you snort you will have drip but not 'brainsludge'- yea I like that term for it). That's why I loved coke in that bodylaod wise it really was a luxurious comedown so long as you chase off the paro with a good bit of weed/alcohol. I like to tell it like it is in regards to comedowns probably in part to remind me not to take certain chems, heh.

It isn't just me either. When it was morning after a rave everyone would be hacking like they were at death's door; those times were morbid indeed.

So for those who will be giving mpa a go think of me when on your comedown and riding out the brainsludge (2+ days).

Now, to find a weed source! :D
 
Last edited:
I tried it and I would not recommend it at all.
Little positive effects and a whack of negative ones.save your money and the little health you have left. If you are looking for a decent stim or a meph replacement this will not satisfy.
 
Twigs said:
Can you provide a link to where you read this?
Click to expand...

Unfortunately I had a look and could not find the source and now I sound like a Terrence Mckennaesque crackpot :D. I'll post it if I find it (was trying to remember what I searched for). I wasn't high when I came up with it, honest.
 
honestly, are people taking this brain cells out of the sinuses nonsense seriously?

shakes head in disbelief.
 
I am a hardy suppporter of the scientific method so am a little dissappointed in myself for not being able to back up the claim- not the actual theory which couldn't be backed up or at least not from anything I've read to date but at least the paper I read the passage about the sinus function.

I'm usually excellent with referencing.

Still though you must admit that drugs cause flu like symptoms. It certainly may not be brain cells but I am still very interested to know WHAT it is. The braincells hypothesis was just an idea I threw out for discussion really. I'd be just as interested to hear more compelling ideas.

Someone has said it is strain on the immune system which seems plausible.

The sludge (brain or not) is still a very real phenomena which must be accounted for and to me it is the 'elephant in the room' in terms of drug use in that it doesn't get discussed yet is one of the most pronounced side effects of most chemical ab/use.
 
Last edited:
the reason why any phelgm and mucus are thicker than usual is the same reason as why normal decongestants work, they constrict the capillaries in the mucus membranes and reduce the amount of water supplied to them via the membrane, this is also the reason for the back of the nose/throat drying out. the same mechanism is at work making it difficult to urinate as well
 
Last edited:
I don't think that follows logically because other drugs which dehydrate you do not produce the same amount.

i.e coke also dehydrates and drone, yet the amount they produce is different than the amphetamine sludge factory. Conversely, I think what does follow, from my experience, is the higher the body load the worse such symptoms will be which is what leads me to my new hypothesis below the quote.

I am just reading up on the causes of phlegm and it said it is a 'reaction to a pathogen' this time I do have a reference, but I'm sure this is common knowledge and easily found:

When your airways get inflamed and infected due to the cold virus or allergies, mucous production increases to help remove pathogens and the foreign particles. Once this happens, voila! You've acquired a runny nose. Also, when the body's immune system starts the inflammation process in order to fight off pathogens or allergens, it also triggers a rise in mucous production. So, that annoying rise in mucous secretions is actually a normal byproduct of your immune system at work.

Read more: Why is Mucus Produced When You Have a Cold?
Click to expand...
| eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how-does_4586972_why-mucus-produced-have-cold.html#ixzz1BOEFytGx

So I think the best hypothesis so far would be that it is a reaction to a foreign body, a poison response.
 
I bough a gram of this last week after sampling 200mg a few weeks back. I took a ridiculous amount of 800mg before my friend took it of me and put it down the toilet. I started taking it on Sunday at 1 in the afternoon and continued plugging it for over 24hours.

I've had a massive change in my life the last couple of weeks and I just needed an escape for a bit and I went mental on it. I first started to notice problems when I stood up and went to the toilet. I had a massive head rush and nearly collapsed. Up until then I had took about 400mg. I was still getting a nice buzz from the stuff, the problem was every time I stood up I felt I was going to collapse. Sitting down I was fine, no problems with that. I also began to have a hard time urinating.

I was determined to finish this gram of but my friend was worried about the state of me and flushed it down the toilet. I'm glad she did though. I was so fucking reckless taking that amount. I do have an addictive personality and always push it to the limit with drugs.
 
Reading this thread makes me really glad I stuck with my gut on this one. I don't see too many people rushing in on the repeat orders, the thing that worries me is like all the other chems that are epic failures for the RC 'companies' it that kilos of this shit is going to find it's way into everything else as they're trying to get shot of it.
 
^ I Liked it xP

Good bits of speed without the stupidly long duration and resulting insomnia.

Note: I shared 250mg between 3.. could imagine bad side affects creeping in at higher doses.
 
Note: I shared 250mg between 3.. could imagine bad side affects creeping in at higher doses.
 
aww man. i had like 300mg on friday night and im still feeling the after effects. for me its worse than an mdma comedown. i feel miserable, tired, nauseous, dizzy, headache. its been 4 days now and im only beginning to recover. its worth mentioning i had 7 cans of beer too though.

it was a good fun night at the time though and i felt happy, alert and talkative the whole time but it was sooo not woth the comedown. i definitely dont recommend this shit.
 
Ye I prob smoked about 300-400mgs and the c-down was awful. Just wanna mention it if people are thinking it might be dose dependent which I'd motion it is not. Well maybe that's a moderate dose but thing is I didn't feel anything really until I redosed alot and my tolerance to drugs would have been low due to like a 6 month (bit less) hiatus.
 
Last edited:
^ I have a somewhat high tolerance to stimulants and i could feel something off of a line and a small amount smoked.. both equalling no more than 60mg..
 
Hello,
first sorry for my bad english ^^ ..

i looking for years on this great page and thanks all for its good informations. thank you !

@topic
i ordert 500mg weeks ago. I can only confirm the bad things for this new
substance. i have stoped a few days ago testing this compound.

after 2 days, this is the first day i notice the oppressive feeling in my breast going slowly back (thank you god!)

I hope the responsible vendors be held responsible for seeling this fucking powder. they destroy all the "research community" (not all is bad)

have a nice day and throwing away the stuff (this is what i do yet)
best regards from germany

::edit:
@ rickolasnice
i have a high tolerance too. and it is a small effect if any. not the new super drug.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top