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The MDxx Discussion Thread Number 3!

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Pure crystal MDMA should never stick to the bag. It should also be almost transparent. Some nice Canadian yellow MD but the best has been stuff that looks a bit like shard. Check "is it bunk?" gives you some pics of lovely MDMA shards (chunks more like) vs pics of shit. It would be very easy to cut MDMA and most street corner sales agents' no doubt do.
 
Just wondering if MDEA that is apparently around might just be methylone aka bk-mdma? Methylone is cheaper and comes ready made from China. No need for a backyard lab bomb blast.

I highly doubt anyone is making MDEA in Australia when they could make MDMA, Im also led to believe that MDEA is rare to find these days. I think some people think they have consumed MDEA because they get stuck to the couch and think it must be MDEA.

I was lucky enough to try a pill (white Dove) containing MDEA in the early nineties that contained a spread of 140mgs - 170+mgs and it knocked me around a bit. Very nice feeling though
 
I know there's a million first timer thread, but i just want a quick checkup before giving molly to a friend. i havent had any myself in years and managed to source some. we'll be home alone.

1. test molly with kit
2. 20mg allergy test
3. wait an hour+
4. dose 80mg cap
5. babysit
6. take some myself when friend is comfortably rolling, so we can roll together. If friend feels overwhelmed dose 5-10mg diazepam

any other potential problems i should be prepared for?

I think you've done fine, when doing the allergy test check if he starts to get any form of rash from his/hers neck to the chest, apparently that's a good indicator that will show results within about 15-20mins, so you really don't have to wait an hour but if you want to be as safe as possible no harm waiting longer, might jut dull the roll a bit. Note: if you are taking it as a cap it will take a bit longer because you will have to wait for the cap to dissolve first. Your plan sounds fine to me.

Just wondering if MDEA that is apparently around might just be methylone aka bk-mdma? Methylone is cheaper and comes ready made from China. No need for a backyard lab bomb blast.
Pure crystal MDMA should never stick to the bag. It should also be almost transparent. Some nice Canadian yellow MD but the best has been stuff that looks a bit like shard. Check "is it bunk?" gives you some pics of lovely MDMA shards (chunks more like) vs pics of shit. It would be very easy to cut MDMA and most street corner sales agents' no doubt do.

@lovepsychadelics Yeah, it's unconfirmed but a general concensus is that people far more often think they have MDEA then they actually do, it's quite a rare drug. Psilosubnaut spoke about this topic in length to me at one stage, he only had MDEA once and said it wasn't quite what he'd expected but did feel very good.

I've seen dozens of pills on PR over the last few years that have been given the MDEA rating. bk-MDMA tests quite differently to MDEA on a test kit so I can still definitely see that some of these pills very well may contain MDEA. However the difference in dosage could also often explain peoples reactions to MDMA if they're not experienced enough to tell the difference between how it makes them feel. I've had pills that have been tested for MDMA or MDEA that have lacked the 'magic' so to speak, so I'd still bet that they were MDEA and as you said mister makes people get stuck to the couch (this doesn't really happen to me on MDMA though).

As far as in crystal form, I can say that I've had bk-MDMA multiple times which has almost always been sold as MDMA. MDEA I think would be much much rarer to find sold if not in pill form. Almost everyone prefers MDMA to MDEA, unlike MDA where I would say about 15-20% of people prefer MDA (not based off a statistic I have ever read, just from what I've observed of people discussing the two).

It seems odd though that people would sell a powder as MDEA if they didn't know what it was, as far as I can tell most people prefer bk-MDMA to MDEA, but the active dose is much lower for bk-MDMA, this would be the only advantage to selling it as MDEA instead of Methylone, but I'd suspect most people would still buy bk-MDMA over MDEA if given the choice so it's a bit odd that people would sell one as the other.

Ultimately test kit should solve this problem as MDEA mimics all the same test results as MDMA but Methylone has very different.
 
Is it possible to pop a few pills, have the peak hit me, and then pop afew more pills to have the peak extended? In all my experinces of redosing over the past four years, i have been unsuccessful and once i start coming down i can eat all the pills i want and will not peak. Anyone ever have luck or tips with redosing?
 
There's 2 sorts of MDxx going around atm.

MDEA or methylone - yellowish/tanned crystals - comes in gel caps - high is alot more like speed/jaw clenching is incredible, not even benzos help with the jaw clenching...this is the worst type of MDxx that's going around/the crash is ridiculous in intensity...shit fucking sucks...avoid buying this shit at all cost. Eve should be better than this shit that's going around...unacceptable, cooks!

MDMA - pure white crystals that are perfectly grinded up - comes in baggies, not gel caps - this is good MDMA. possibly the best I've ever had. Loving/hugging and shit/talkative/laughing/having a good time/makes you want to dance unlike MDEA which makes you want to stand there for 4 hours straight until you've realised that you've wasted your money on some shit "MD"...

no-ones fucking around with pills no more lol. its all gel caps/powder form. good riddance, you fucking filthy adulterants.
 
Is it possible to pop a few pills, have the peak hit me, and then pop afew more pills to have the peak extended? In all my experinces of redosing over the past four years, i have been unsuccessful and once i start coming down i can eat all the pills i want and will not peak. Anyone ever have luck or tips with redosing?

Pretty much you can extend the roll by re-dosing, but the initial peak ~ 1 hour and 30 mins to the 3 hour mark from your initial dose will be the biggest peak you get. This is due to the serotonin from your brain already being released from the first MDMA. This is why if you are taking the same pills on multiple occasions, once you have gauged their strength I choose to take a higher initial dose and then only re-dose once throughout the night. Also keep in mind that you're best off rolling once every three weeks so your serotonin levels have a chance to restore.

There's 2 sorts of MDxx going around atm.

MDEA or methylone - yellowish/tanned crystals - comes in gel caps - high is alot more like speed/jaw clenching is incredible, not even benzos help with the jaw clenching...this is the worst type of MDxx that's going around/the crash is ridiculous in intensity...shit fucking sucks...avoid buying this shit at all cost. Eve should be better than this shit that's going around...unacceptable, cooks!

MDMA - pure white crystals that are perfectly grinded up - comes in baggies, not gel caps - this is good MDMA. possibly the best I've ever had. Loving/hugging and shit/talkative/laughing/having a good time/makes you want to dance unlike MDEA which makes you want to stand there for 4 hours straight until you've realised that you've wasted your money on some shit "MD"...

no-ones fucking around with pills no more lol. its all gel caps/powder form. good riddance, you fucking filthy adulterants.

Just because your sources come between caps being MDEA/bk-MDMA and crystals in baggies doesn't mean it's at all the case in terms of bulk. It's ridiculously easy for any dealer to put crystals in a cap, or pour the powder from the cap into a baggie. Which state are you from? The MDxx scene is very different across the country, it's not like < 2007, where it was a lot more common for the same stuff to be getting around country wide.
 
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@thestudent14. Have seen some people on PR swear that the pill contained MDEA although the report of subjective effects were more bk-MDMA. Perhaps a dash of MD + bk-MDMA?? Have read a publication that detailed how sassafras oil could fool a test kit. I doubt that would be the case cause most people would be wanting to react it into MDMA. Perhaps just a dash of K and MDMA. A kitty flip without knowing?
 
I know there's a million first timer thread, but i just want a quick checkup before giving molly to a friend. i havent had any myself in years and managed to source some. we'll be home alone.

1. test molly with kit
2. 20mg allergy test
3. wait an hour+
4. dose 80mg cap
5. babysit
6. take some myself when friend is comfortably rolling, so we can roll together. If friend feels overwhelmed dose 5-10mg diazepam

any other potential problems i should be prepared for?

that sounds pretty much right.you should probz up your dose a bit to 100mg per cap have plenty of water on hand but dont drink too much and have some nice dnb or dubstep playing :) i like to dose at the same time as my friends but go ahead n do what u want :)
 
^ Yeah, I had 100 mg capped molly earlier this year and when i tested it it fizzed and smoked and tested up all good, when I had the capsule (with a friend who also had one of them) it wasn't really that crash hot to tell the truth, I was a bit bummed out, as i have not had md in ages, so no tolerance, but that was just a joke, I would have needed 2 or more to get that feeling I wonted I think.

On the other hand I had a pill a few weeks later that tested up as mda that was pretty good and it didnt fizz or smoke. Was better value weirdly.
 
^ Yeah, I had 100 mg capped molly earlier this year and when i tested it it fizzed and smoked and tested up all good, when I had the capsule (with a friend who also had one of them) it wasn't really that crash hot to tell the truth, I was a bit bummed out, as i have not had md in ages, so no tolerance, but that was just a joke, I would have needed 2 or more to get that feeling I wonted I think.

On the other hand I had a pill a few weeks later that tested up as mda that was pretty good and it didnt fizz or smoke. Was better value weirdly.


probz cut to fuck man.probz like 40mg of mdma and 60mg of MSM all up


mmmmhmmm fuck i miss MDA :D
 
@thestudent14. Have seen some people on PR swear that the pill contained MDEA although the report of subjective effects were more bk-MDMA. Perhaps a dash of MD + bk-MDMA?? Have read a publication that detailed how sassafras oil could fool a test kit. I doubt that would be the case cause most people would be wanting to react it into MDMA. Perhaps just a dash of K and MDMA. A kitty flip without knowing?

I've heard that in the last few years since the drought it has been alot more common for cooks to put trace amounts of something in the pill to fool a test kit. soaking the outside, however all of this has been here/say and hard to prove because few people send their pills to ecstasydata. Which is understandable because of how expensive it is and all the effort involved. It's a massive shame that we can't have an ecstasydata in Australia, it would be a great asset to have and help the country have a better idea of what chemicals the people of this country are ingesting week in week out.

I think you're still probably correct that some people would say MDEA if they thought it was similar to MDMA but not quite as good without realising that bk-MDMA is more likely.
 
There most definitely is MDEA going around, at least a couple months back when I indulged anyway. Was brown sugar, felt exactly how I remember MDEA feeling and tested up right.
 
yeah when i first started buying MD crystal it turned out to be MDEA had test results to back that up too.this was about a year ago all i can get now is MDMA pills powder n crystals........the high is enjoyable but not something i'd like to be on out n about clubbing or something.....also whom ever said that people could be selling methylone as MDEA i think that would be quite hard as m1 has a speedy cokey buzz along with the MDMA type high you get when taken orally.if someone were to snort methylone they would get alot more speedy/coke like effects....also the dose needed for methylone is almost double that of MDEA.the average bluelighter would not believe they are being sold methylone insted of MDxx IMO
 
yeah when i first started buying MD crystal it turned out to be MDEA had test results to back that up too.this was about a year ago all i can get now is MDMA pills powder n crystals........the high is enjoyable but not something i'd like to be on out n about clubbing or something.....also whom ever said that people could be selling methylone as MDEA i think that would be quite hard as m1 has a speedy cokey buzz along with the MDMA type high you get when taken orally.if someone were to snort methylone they would get alot more speedy/coke like effects....also the dose needed for methylone is almost double that of MDEA.the average bluelighter would not believe they are being sold methylone insted of MDxx IMO

Methylone does give slightly stimulating effects when snorted but this does not last long becoming more tactile and sedating, unless you have another bump and extend the high slightly. 4MMC and MCAT are very stimulating while bk-MDMA is although not very. I agree most bluelighter's would use test kits and also be able to differentiate the subjective effects of MDMA vs bk-MDMA... That reminds me... damn painful snorting bk-MDMA but not as bad as Molly! However many people do not use test kits as evidenced by some of the reports on PR but they are probably not BL's. The average person who buys "pingers" of his mate who said they were "awesome" is going to have little to no clue about the effects of meth vs MDMA let alone MDEA/MDMA/bk-MDMA. That is all I ment by my comment. :)
 
@lovepsychs

Ever snorted MDAI? The burn of that makes all other MDxx a fucking joke. MDAI is by far the most painful thing I have snorted, Much much much worse then Crystal Meth, crushed up pills of all different types or anything else I can think of. The high of snorting MDAI though is very very pleasent, once the headache and tears go away 8)
 
that sounds pretty much right.you should probz up your dose a bit to 100mg per cap have plenty of water on hand but dont drink too much and have some nice dnb or dubstep playing :) i like to dose at the same time as my friends but go ahead n do what u want :)

this is what i suggested, but my friend is a bit nervous and insists that i babysit sober.
 
@lovepsychs

Ever snorted MDAI? The burn of that makes all other MDxx a fucking joke. MDAI is by far the most painful thing I have snorted, Much much much worse then Crystal Meth, crushed up pills of all different types or anything else I can think of. The high of snorting MDAI though is very very pleasent, once the headache and tears go away 8)

ever snorted 2Cb? when i managed to get my hands on a G of 2cb me and my friend thought we'd snort some.at the time i didnt realise that the dose up the nose is about 4 times stronger than oral dosing....i racked up a 60mg (a shulgan experience :p) line and fuuuck me it felt like i had been punched in the nose and someone poured some boiling led up my nose.

this is what i suggested, but my friend is a bit nervous and insists that i babysit sober.

lol rightyo as soon as that MDMA hits him/her all that anxiety will go out the window :p
 
Methylone does give slightly stimulating effects when snorted but this does not last long becoming more tactile and sedating, unless you have another bump and extend the high slightly. 4MMC and MCAT are very stimulating while bk-MDMA is although not very. I agree most bluelighter's would use test kits and also be able to differentiate the subjective effects of MDMA vs bk-MDMA... That reminds me... damn painful snorting bk-MDMA but not as bad as Molly! However many people do not use test kits as evidenced by some of the reports on PR but they are probably not BL's. The average person who buys "pingers" of his mate who said they were "awesome" is going to have little to no clue about the effects of meth vs MDMA let alone MDEA/MDMA/bk-MDMA. That is all I ment by my comment. :)

i find m1 to be more or just as stimulating as MCAT although i always have another line ready to go.i snort olike 40-50mg then ill need to redose in a hour or 2 same dose again.its a good cheap replacement for coke ;)
 
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