Gabapentinoids The Lyrica (Pregabalin) Mega Thread v 2.0

[LucidSDreamr]

Lyrica synerdizes with weed so well. The body high aspects are really brought out and the visual static aspect is enhanced as well.

 

[Ne0]

I hated it. I like all sorts of other things (opiates, weed, speed). All I thought Lyrica did was make me dizzy, a bit drunk, and fairly nauseous. I can't understand why its apparently so popular. If I only take a little it works to help me sleep. That's the only good thing I can say about it. (There - how's that for encouraging harm reduction!)

Well not every drug works for everybody. I know many people who don't get any positive effects from GBL, only drunken feeling, some are unaffected altogether. Also I don't like weed, makes my mind race too fast and anxious. Alcohol is the worst drug for me, but some people love it. I love the feeling that I get from 600mg pregabalin after 4 days break from it, its like GHB, little bit ecstasy, some dissociative and opiods at the same time, very very euphoric for me, even after 10 days speed binge after-day if I feel bad hungover from meth, it takes every single negative thing away. Not even GBL can help me with that. It just suck that you can mostly use only 2 days straight (needs doubling the dose, but after that need normally 4 days break if you are not heavy user.). And yes it makes very dizzy but its best enjoyed while laying on bed and listening some good music, it can last over 12 hours easily, at least with first day re dosing works very nicely. It's very similar to phenibut, I can't decide my mind over which is better, at least phenibut works several days straight, no need to take tolerance breakes, but the taste is just awful, as you need tto take 2-5g at once with water, tastes like GHB.

 

[Nightraver]

I get gabapentin weeky on repeat plus OxyContin and today ran short one day early but came across fourteen 150 mg pregabalin and two 10mg diazepam and I must say All opiate craving is gone

 

[Ne0]

So I have question about how to use pregabalin without getting physically addicted to it? It has been one of the medications I take for opium WD's, its great,, but I take only max. 3 days because the good feeling goes away, thene I might take speed for 5 days, and then GBL for 5 days, then turn back to pregabalin, so far I haven't felt any WD's form it when I'm not taking it. Also my tolerance seems to go zero just in 3 days, I mean I took on 3rd day around 1500mg pregabalin to feel ok, then 3 days I took amphetamine, then I went back to pregabalin and 600mg gave amazing mood.

So it seems it is safe to take 2 days pregabalin with any doses, then have at least 3 days break from it?

I once got physically addicted to it when I used it 2 months everyday some days even 3g. It felt horrible when I stopped using it, but surprisingly methylphenidate took all the pain away. So I know how pregalin WD's feel, so this time I''m trying to be very careful. I'm not planning to use pregabalin very long, just two weeks more when opium wds are completely gone, so I need to know that if 3 day use 3 day break really works? Also I happened to use 1 month lots of speed, also meth for one week was great, and today I decided that now its enough of this amphetamine use, starter to make me very paranoid about police. After last dose was fading away I welt comedown from the whole week, also cravings to buy more amphetamines, then I took 600mg and it made everything better it fixed the amphetamine induced comedown, also NO CRAVINGS AT ALL! So I'm not going to use any stimulants anymore because I promised it to the one I love very much. So now I don't know what to to use on break days? I used GBL 24h for 10 days straight, and no comedown or wds came from it, but well I was als on pregabalin on that last day day. But the nice effects of GBL faded away to stupid drunk feeling, instead the ecstasy feeling you get when haven't used for long time. Well I quit GBL 20 days ago, I don't have any cravings for it, but would 20 days be enough to restore the good feeling on it?

Also I have clonazepam, but just using clonazepam only makes me depressed.
Now I have started to to walking in woods while on pregabalin, so I do get some exercising and the good effects that forest can produce on human mind (it has been studied just 15 min walk in forest have positive effect on mood). When I used speed 1 month (usually 3-5 days then break 2-3 days and another run with speed), I slept everyday but I didn't eat anything, so now I feel very weak, gladly pregabalin makes you hungry and Im getting my energy back.

So any suggestions how to make all this break thing work what to use? I really need pregabalin for only 2 more weeks, then I quit it, I really don't want to get physically addicted to it again, but its miracle drug, so I really need make my plan to work.

edit. ah I totally forget gabapentin, I haven't used them now, but going to get as much I can, so I need to know would it work that if use 3 days pregabalin then 3 days gabapentin? As they have same action on brain, and have cross-tolerance but do they have cross-addiction? I really hope that not, becausw would be great to switch between them and avoid any physical addiction (I would do that only 2 weeks, would you even get addicted on that time?).

Also I try to get phenibut but its very hard to get here so I´might not get it, but if I do would it have any cross-addiction? Or can I use it one break days and so not getting addicted to neither.

Also maybe overreact, I mean I haven't really used pregabalin on bast month that much, only am,phetmines and occasionally clonazepam on speed. So would it be even possible to get wds from 2 weeks use of pregabalin, gabapentin or phenibut? For other drugs 2 weeks use might give little shitty feeling but not really a wds. Amphetamine 2 weeks use gives one really bad day but on second day you feel all ok, this was from meth. Also I can use benzos for 2-3 weeks every day and when stopping not getting any wds. So I doubt 2 week' use would cause physical addiction with these drugs.

 

[Ne0]

Well Im on speed again because I run out of pregabalin and cant get an y gabapentins or phenibut. Shitty 25e/g speed needed to take 0,6g to feel it, my tolerance is high, but yerah fuck it I get some meth as soon as my main guy is back in town. And no its not cryastal and you cant vaporize it anyway, its just powder. At least it works better.

 

[Thereisalwayshope]

Hey! I am no expert at all but maybe I have some ideas that can help you.
First of all, you are NOT crazy! It may seem so and it can feel so real, but it is not.


Lyrica is said to stop new synapses from forming. Maybe that is why it takes so long to recover from.
Both ashwagandha and bacopa stimulates dendrites and axons to grow in the brain. So this could be of some help.


Ashwagandha
Bacopa monnieri


Check out examine.co* and pubmed


There are many reliabel sources. And remember that there is always HOPE!


If it doesn't work we must ask Elon Musk for help


Take care and hang in there.


And sorry for my english, it is not my first language.

 

[Cyanoide]

how is lyrica compared to gabapentin?

Lyrica is much stronger (both more potent and more intoxicating). I've tried gabapentin a few times, with high doses, to achieve a recreational effect. I've tried both taking all at once and the staggering method. I didn't find it especially enjoyable, and the intoxication was quite mild. Although you're more functional on gabapentin. Lyrica really hits you hard in high doses, and is much more euphoric, anxiolytic and strangely dissociative and slightly psychedelic.

Lyrica is considerably more messy, it really fucks you up on high doses, you are completely and utterly wasted. I never achieved that with gabapentin. Gabapentin also has a poor bioavailability, while pregabalin has a bioavailability of ≥90%. So you can just take all Lyrica at once and don't need to stagger. Also Lyrica, especially in high doses, has a longer effect. Just my opinion. I think gabapentin quite sucks for recreational use.

 

[Strigoi416]

I took 900mg this morning and another 750mg this evening. And i'll tell ya, I'm fucking flying. Very similar high to G I find

 

[DR.DEATH]

Hell yeh bro, I was taking 900 to 1200 a day for 2yrs then suddenly stopped and it felt so bad felt like my whole nerve system shut down and I was withdrewl from a huge habit, it can even in my experience be worse withdrawals EVER worse then methadone and heroin so be carefull when getting on this. Love the high but hate the withdrawalss LAZYSCIENCE..... Spot on grate advice mate

 

[Cyanoide]

I took 900mg this morning and another 750mg this evening. And i'll tell ya, I'm fucking flying. Very similar high to G I find

Yes, if I would have to choose which drug most resemble Lyrica, I'd also say GHB.

 

[Ne0]

Yes, if I would have to choose which drug most resemble Lyrica, I'd also say GHB.

Strangely I found that when I took speed one day and couldn't sleep for 2 days, I took first 600mg pregabalin, but it didn't work, so another 600mg staqrted to the usual high. But now taking only 600, fitst 300mg after 1 hours another 300mg. that would work the best way.

 

[Cyanoide]

I think I took the second heaviest dose ever today, I'm now now on 2300 mg (although I have a slight tolerance). It's not good for your kidneys so this shouldn't be done often.

It's interesting that on these mega doses I get manic; I have cleaned my apartment with the vacuum cleaner, mopped the floor, put on the dishwasher and the washing machine, cleaned the bathroom, I can't stand dirt when high on Lyrica. I do everything I hate to do when I'm sober on Lyrica with no problems, I don't know why. It was actually funny to clean the bathroom. And I absolutely hate it when I'm sober. But for me it's not sedating at this dose, well kind of in a way, but I was fully functional and energetic. But I do have some tolerance, so I'm not as high as I would be without tolerance. Usually on 1500+ mg doses I get twitchy, and my muscles start to twitch annoyingly. In fact, although Lyrica is an anticonvulsant, in these doses it's actually a convulsant and can induce seizure-like symptoms and uncontrollable twitches. That's why I usually take clonazepam with it, it complete removes all the twitching.

It can be tricky to find your sweet spot with Lyrica, I'm usually on 1500 mg, not as much as today. I just wanted to try, and the result was that I got manic. In the end a bit too manic, so a few pints did the trick. Although I have to say my usual 4 pints would be too much right now, Lyrica boosted the two pints to such a level that I feel I don't want to boost anymore, I kind of know when to stop, as to avoid blackouts. But when I added alcohol, started drinking a few pints, everything changed. The energy was gone and everything became more dreamy and messy. But it still feels nice, but totally different than on Lyrica alone.

The trick with high doses, especially combined with alcohol and benzos, is to find your sweet spot. If you overdo it, you will black out and that's nasty. I've experienced it a few times, but I'm so familiar with this compound (in combination with benzos and alcohol) that I never blackout anymore, I know pretty much exactly how much I can take. This combo feels like GHB/MDMA, flouting on clouds, euphoric and calm, like being wrapped in warm blankets. Not a single worry. The most anxiolytic combo I've found, Lyrica is IME more anxiolytic than benzos.

 

[Squeaky]

Neo..... dude you have access to entirely too many drugs.
Gabapentin and Lyrica are like smoking pot and smoking tobacco. You will have cross tolerance and cross withdrawls.
With all of the pills you're playing with here, there's no way to predict what kind of withdrawls you're going to have. It sounds like you figured out a system that works. Just try not to get in too deep with anything that you can't get more of if you need. Cold turkey from long term Lyrica or Gabapentin use can be miserable.

 

[Ne0]

Neo..... dude you have access to entirely too many drugs.
Gabapentin and Lyrica are like smoking pot and smoking tobacco. You will have cross tolerance and cross withdrawls.
With all of the pills you're playing with here, there's no way to predict what kind of withdrawls you're going to have. It sounds like you figured out a system that works. Just try not to get in too deep with anything that you can't get more of if you need. Cold turkey from long term Lyrica or Gabapentin use can be miserable.

Nnh didn't use pregbalin too many days, also didn't get any gabas, speed was most I used, tomorrow going to be totally sober as I run out every single drung in my stash, not that its problem to get something like amphetamines, but not taking them anymore are getting any good comedown ( I mean from 5 days use) pills is very hard to get by I mean pregabalins, I used my only scripts that I get every month, they are very rare in drugmarket here with gabapentins which I didn't get any, maybe thats good. So wish me luck....

Thereisalwayshope: Thanks.

 

[PerpetualAnhedonic]

Gabapentin and Lyrica are like smoking pot and smoking tobacco. You will have cross tolerance and cross withdrawls.

Umm did you really just say there's a cross tolerance and withdrawal between tobacco and cannabis...? Lol.

You are absolutely correct in saying such a thing in regards to Gabapentin/pregabalin, but your statement on tobacco/cannabis is absolutely ridiculous, I'm sorry.

Tobacco and cannabis have completely different compositions, different alkaloids, and affect all different biochemicals and sites within the human body from one another.
They have absolutely nothing in common (aside from the gnarly combustion byproducts they release as plant material), produce completely different effects due to their completely different biochemical makeup and therefore completely different affected sites and actions, completely different pharmacodynamics- these two drugs have nothing in common pharmacologically (or really anything else aside from being plant material) and have ABSOLUTELY ZERO cross tolerance or cross withdrawals. This is ridiculous.

I apologize for being so blunt and direct- perhaps a bit harsh- but your statement is just absolutely beyond silly, misguided/misinformed/uninformed and can't be ignored for others to fall for such misinformation.

There are several ways that addiction/habitual use of these two substances can go hand in hand, but they are not at all pharmacologically similar and do not carry any mutual psychoactive, tolerance, nor addictive effects. This statement of yours is absolutely false and simply absurd. Check your sources of information man....

Neo- As for your inquiry regarding 2 weeks use of these 3 substances (gabapentin, pregabalin, phenibut), they all 3 act similarly- at same sites and mutual/similar fashions/actions, are very similar substances anyway- and so yes, they DO indeed carry cross tolerance and addiction. Rotating them would help.....but only to a degree.....

I can't predict the future whether or not you'll get addicted/chemically dependant, nor do I know you, your body, your health, your lifestyle, etc.....so it's impossible for me to accurately predict such a complex occurrence.....but it is MOST CERTAINLY, ABSOLUTELY, AND UNDOUBTEDLY A SERIOUS, HIGH, LEGITIMATE POSSIBILITY- and must not be disregarded or taken for granted.

I recommend great caution and mindfulness, serious responsibility in your utilization of these substances. Respect them.

Good luck neo, and never hesitate to ask if you need assistance with anything, we're all here to help ya.
Also, please, actually give some degree of consideration to my words....I did take the time to try to genuinely help ya out....so please don't throw it in my face or take it for granted.

-PA

 

[Etterwonde]

Yes, if I would have to choose which drug most resemble Lyrica, I'd also say GHB.

I too, would say GHB is the drug that most resembles Lyrica. There's that same "tingly" feeling in my stomach that I get from GHB.

I got a prescription for a pot of 200 capsules of 300 mg each, but the pot is getting empty at a fast rate... I also got some Triazolam: both complement each other rather good, I must say. I'm thinking about which benzo I'm going to ask my doctor next time to complement the Lyrica. I'm thinking about asking him for some Brotizolam, some Flurazepam of maybe some Lorazepam or some Diazepam...

 

[Ne0]

Umm did you really just say there's a cross tolerance and withdrawal between tobacco and cannabis...? Lol.

You are absolutely correct in saying such a thing in regards to Gabapentin/pregabalin, but your statement on tobacco/cannabis is absolutely ridiculous, I'm sorry.

Tobacco and cannabis have completely different compositions, different alkaloids, and affect all different biochemicals and sites within the human body from one another.
They have absolutely nothing in common (aside from the gnarly combustion byproducts they release as plant material), produce completely different effects due to their completely different biochemical makeup and therefore completely different affected sites and actions, completely different pharmacodynamics- these two drugs have nothing in common pharmacologically (or really anything else aside from being plant material) and have ABSOLUTELY ZERO cross tolerance or cross withdrawals. This is ridiculous.

I apologize for being so blunt and direct- perhaps a bit harsh- but your statement is just absolutely beyond silly, misguided/misinformed/uninformed and can't be ignored for others to fall for such misinformation.

There are several ways that addiction/habitual use of these two substances can go hand in hand, but they are not at all pharmacologically similar and do not carry any mutual psychoactive, tolerance, nor addictive effects. This statement of yours is absolutely false and simply absurd. Check your sources of information man....

Neo- As for your inquiry regarding 2 weeks use of these 3 substances (gabapentin, pregabalin, phenibut), they all 3 act similarly- at same sites and mutual/similar fashions/actions, are very similar substances anyway- and so yes, they DO indeed carry cross tolerance and addiction. Rotating them would help.....but only to a degree.....

I can't predict the future whether or not you'll get addicted/chemically dependant, nor do I know you, your body, your health, your lifestyle, etc.....so it's impossible for me to accurately predict such a complex occurrence.....but it is MOST CERTAINLY, ABSOLUTELY, AND UNDOUBTEDLY A SERIOUS, HIGH, LEGITIMATE POSSIBILITY- and must not be disregarded or taken for granted.

I recommend great caution and mindfulness, serious responsibility in your utilization of these substances. Respect them.

Good luck neo, and never hesitate to ask if you need assistance with anything, we're all here to help ya.
Also, please, actually give some degree of consideration to my words....I did take the time to try to genuinely help ya out....so please don't throw it in my face or take it for granted.

-PA

Thanks for help and info. I can't get my hands on phenibut or gabapentins, only can get pregabalinf for 3-4 day use, because nobody is selling them illegally, so I use my own prescription which I got. So no risk of addiction.

I can get GBL vut I need to go to other town, but I feel like death from opium WD's so even that I know it would help I just feel like dying, cant buy any food, can do anything.

 

[Squeaky]

PerpetualAnhedonic-

(Edit-writing this made me see that you are actually correct. I was thinking a bit differently about addiction and less about cross-tolerance, but I'll post this anyway.)
I was trying to be short and sweet but I should have elaborated a little more in my statement regarding cross tolerance of tobacco and weed: Part of the addiction and therefore the high associated with cigarettes is not just the nicotine. Having something to occupy your hands during stressful situations, or a reason to hang out with your 'smoking buddies' , or even just knowing that you have a target waiting for you at the end of a long day. These are all components of addiction, and they can be the same for different types of addictions.
In short, beer drinkers often drink lots of soda because of the feeling of a cold can and the carbonation. Pill junkies always hit the pharmacy for tylenol and immodium. And potheads almost always smoke cigarettes when they're not smoking weed. It satisfies a small part of the addiction even though the drug is not available.
Part of the relief a person gets from switching from Lyrica to Gabapentin is just knowing that they're holding a bottle of pills that work the same. And the knowledge that they are similar can either lessen or magnify their effects. Placebo effect I guess, but it is undeniably real.

 

[smenkhare]

A few months ago I posted a message saying how much I hated pregabalin. I discovered, by a bit of experimentation (caused by a slight shortage of codeine), that I quite like combining codeine and pregabalin. I was quite careful - 150mg pregabalin, about 300mg codeine (I have a bit of tolerance - I need 800mg codeine to leave me in a state close to nodding). As Bluelight is all about safety I'd like some advice about the safety of this combination. Would increasing the doses of either be dangerous? What should I look out for as danger signs?

 

[Nightraver]

I have ran out of gapapentin and ox but have pot codien and amitrptaline does anyone no anything about the amytrptaline as I have loads but don't know much about them will it be ok to take them in place of gabas till I get a refil Tuesday
Thanks for any reply nightraver