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Kratom The Kratom Megathread

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Mostly for nerve pains in my lower extremities, but i'm taking it also recreationally of course ;)
 
Is kratom the same as traditional opiates when it comes to onset of withdrawal?

I know rule of thumb for things like oxy and h is withdrawal will start around 24hrs after last dose. Does this hold true for kratom as well?
 
I would say the WD of kratom are different than normal opiates, as long as you are dosing less than an ounce a day, the WD are more like powerful cannabanoid (sp?) WD than typical opiate WD, maybe a little more severe. I have had the luck to never become dependent on kratom, as long as you dont dose more than 4/7 days a week, it seems to manage itself nicely. I still take doses of about 7gs, and this gets me high everytime.
 
Just got some plain Bali leaf and was wondering the best method to take it. Bear in mind I have tried the tea before and found it too be to hard to take, taste wise
So wondering if there are alternatives to tea any good ?
 
Yogurt, mix up to 7g in a cup, but anything over 4g/yogurt will have a strong Kratom taste, not bad texture though mix it completely in. Then when eatin it just put a glob of yogurt in ur mouth and swallow it quickly as a glob. Use a chaser if neccesary, I don't need one but oj works to counter the bitterness.
 
Hi,

So I was wondering. Today is day 9 of no Suboxone. I have been doing great, the worst day.. which weren't even bad.. were day 3-5 .. and I've been taking Kratom obviously.

I was taking Suboxone for about a year I would say.. I'm not sure exactly but I'll go with an estimate of that. I was at like 8mg at the start, then I was at 1mg - 1.5 mg before I had to get films and then I had to take 2mg . I was taking 2mg for like 2 months or less and I was just curious as to when I'll be fine? I would presume about 2 weeks , but I don't know. I don't want to read up on it because I did once and there was wildly different answers.

Thank you :)
 
Hiltoniano said:
Yogurt, mix up to 7g in a cup, but anything over 4g/yogurt will have a strong Kratom taste, not bad texture though mix it completely in. Then when eatin it just put a glob of yogurt in ur mouth and swallow it quickly as a glob. Use a chaser if neccesary, I don't need one but oj works to counter the bitterness.
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7g always gets you high? What strain is it that you take? 7g hasn't ever gotten me high, even though that's not what I am looking for. But maybe you have been taking Kratom to take Kratom and not for suboxone / opiate withdrawal and that is why, or maybe not
 
these caps are getting costly and sitting there for 20 minutes opeining them is getting tiredsome!!!!
 
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Im taking kratom experimentally. In line with all the other sheezee. Jogging. Eating laboriously. Reading good logos, and im hoping i'll grow wings soon enough and transcend
 
kanyeknievel said:
7g always gets you high? What strain is it that you take? 7g hasn't ever gotten me high, even though that's not what I am looking for. But maybe you have been taking Kratom to take Kratom and not for suboxone / opiate withdrawal and that is why, or maybe not
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I can get a nice buzz from 3grams. Nothing major but still gives me a nice feel good before work.
 
Some of you guys must not use this very regularly, 3gram highs and all. I first found kratom 1.5 or 2 years ago, started using it beacuse I've always really liked opiates now and again. I could never stand taking opiates more than 1 or 2 days consecutively though. By day 2 or 3 all the negative effects had compiled so much I just hate the shit for the time being (opi rage, rash/dry skin on face from the itch... I'd make sure to just very light touch my face and be gentle but even then my skin gets fucked up from that). I guess that's a good thing.

This isn't the case with kratom though. Originally I was burning it recreationally and it aided me in letting go of a heavy pot smoking habbit I had for a while since highshool. Enjoyed it for a while, kinda pushed my limits to see where WDs and everything begins so I know what's what. Got to that point, kinda sucked and wasnt worth building more tolearnce, and I just gradually burned less then had a good idea of my limits with kratom.

Eventually, a year later, I developed some serious constant back pain as a result from gaming addiction. I used to live solely for online games, and would sit and play 5-10+ hours a day for around 6 years. Sitting slumped in a chair that long and not being a physically active person catches up to you. Fortunately, I had this wonderful kratom leaf to save me. Hundreds of times better than being rx'd opiates. Now I just burn for medicinal effects, with a rare recreational burn. I won't burn 'for fun' normally as it will increase tolerance, and take away from the medicinal benefits I get from my kratom. I could always increase dose for the medicinal usage, but that's not a good idea. I've learned my limits with this stuff already.


I used to be using ~5-7g 2-3x a day not long ago for my medicinal burns as I had to make a 12hour drive that totally wrecked my back and I had to consistently take a fuckton and raise my tolerance. Just recently finished a VERY DIFFICULT 1week taper using small amounts of stem and vein from the kratom plant. S&V contains antagonists and can help reduce tolerance and keep tolerance down when substituting some of your regular burn with S&V. Now I'm at ~4g 2x a day, maybe 3x if my back might be particularly troublesome one day.

I buy it by the kilo now from indonesia, very good supplier that I know on a personal basis. I personally know a lot of the best domestic vendors in the business due to a certain kratom message board I'm not sure I'm allowed to name (It's not TKF). Not sure if I can name vendors either, but if that info can be PM'd hit me up. I can hook you up with the right leaf for you, high quality, and good price. There's a lot of shitty leafs out there and shady people in this business.
 
Ah kratom has been awesome to me this last year with my probation and all.... I was a heavy heavy bud smoker and it helped me stop pretty easily. I will say I'm at the point where I will get withdrawals, aches, runny nose, extreme extreme tiredness...but never have nausea I actually might eat more it's kind of strange. But overall it's really not too bad I still can work/function. Also after about 3 full days it feels like your tolerance is back to none, even though kratom tolerance is weird too.

With kratom the saying less is more has never been so true. Even with a large tolerance I never eat more than 10g at once. If your trying to compare it to an overwhelming strong opiate buzz you might be disappointed, motark is in its own category for me.
 
Professer said:
Some of you guys must not use this very regularly, 3gram highs and all. .
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For the first few months maybe once a week, then I would do it a few times a week and take 2-4 weeks off. For the last week I've been doing it daily before work but with the recent thread about kratom and liver damage I think I'm going to cut back to only a couple days a week (3 at most).
 
In my experience, I take acne medicine which requires me to take blood tests every month which tests my liver and other levels. I've been eating kratom for about a year almost daily and every time my tests have come up fine. Not saying it is not damaging because your liver can withstand a lot of punishment before showing signs of deterioration. If you get a reliable source that has no additives I believe it's fine, definitely no worse than alcohol.
 
I think some people have bad reactions to it, especially in the liver department. But I have taken large amounts for along time ( MY EXPERIENCE YMMV) and had literally 0 side effects except maybe some generic opiate side effects. Just saying, I think some people are super sensitive to kratom and they should avoid it. Others are just fine, and it can be a lifesaver for those trying to get off opiods ( not me thankfully, I just use recreationally)
 
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I think some people have bad reactions to it, especially in the liver department. But I have taken large amounts for along time ( MY EXPERIENCE YMMV) and had literally 0 side effects except maybe some generic opiate side effects. Just saying, I think some people are super sensitive to kratom and they should avoid it. Others are just fine, and it can be a lifesaver for those trying to get off opiods ( not me thankfully, I just use recreationally)
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I agree, Ive been taking it for a couple years, its kept me off opiates and other hard shit with less side effects then an SSRI (IMO), with more positive effects. To me, kratom is god sent.
 
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