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Kratom The Kratom Megathread

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Hi guys!

Do you think that Kratom can cause some kind of chronic tolerance to its effects? Something like MDMA and it's lost of magic, or K and the imposibility of holing.

I'm gonna tell my history of love with Kratom quickly: I discover Kratom 2 years ago. I have a panic disease and then I wasn't taken any SSRI. I always took Kratom thai at weekends and it's effects were amazing: something like MDMA + opium.

But now, I can't feel the magic. Maybe it's the Paxil (10 mg/day), or event the set&setting(I'm less stressed and alone nowadays). What do you feel? Someone has also lost its magic?
 
mllx said:
Hi guys!

Do you think that Kratom can cause some kind of chronic tolerance to its effects? Something like MDMA and it's lost of magic, or K and the imposibility of holing.

I'm gonna tell my history of love with Kratom quickly: I discover Kratom 2 years ago. I have a panic disease and then I wasn't taken any SSRI. I always took Kratom thai at weekends and it's effects were amazing: something like MDMA + opium.

But now, I can't feel the magic. Maybe it's the Paxil (10 mg/day), or event the set&setting(I'm less stressed and alone nowadays). What do you feel? Someone has also lost its magic?
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You just need to take a few weeks break to reset tolerance
 
Fresco said:
You just need to take a few weeks break to reset tolerance
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Yes, ATM I won't order more kratom for a while. But I never do it on a daily basis, and recently a 3-week break didn't do a lot.
I will stay clean for more than 2 months.
 
^ thats really interesting, Im wondering if its maybe more of a psychological thing? Our first drug experiences are normally the most memorable, or maybe your just past the "honeymoon" phase with kratom. Im past that stage ATM but still recognize all of the good things its still doing for me.
 
silentcowboy said:
^ thats really interesting, Im wondering if its maybe more of a psychological thing? Our first drug experiences are normally the most memorable, or maybe your just past the "honeymoon" phase with kratom. Im past that stage ATM but still recognize all of the good things its still doing for me.
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Yes, I think the "honeymoon" has gone... I hope someday can experience again the magic. I also think that the set&setting do a lot: when I was living alone, the loneliness and the mental pain get a quick relief from Kratom, getting a quick psycological reward.

Nowadays it doesn't do a lot for me, so now kratom deserves a good withdrawal time. Kratom Thai is the best drug I've ever took, and I love it <3

Good luck, Kratom lovers!
 
I have some Maeng Da Ultra Enhanced Extract that will be arriving to me in a few days. The website says that 250mg is a good starting dose because it is very strong. Anyone have experience with this product? I've never taken Kratom before and will be using it for pain relief. I generally take about 80mg of hydro a day for pain, but tend to run short and I would like to try Kratom to supplement so I don't run short every month. Any advice would be appreciated.
 
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i'm sure somewhere in the two megathreads this has been addressed and i really hate to ask questions that have been answered, but i have read through several pages from each of the threads and haven't come across what i'm looking for yet.

also, just to be clear, i am not looking for sources, but i have zero experience with kratom and there are so many different strains and extracts out there that i don't really know what to go for. i am a long-term opiate addict with intermittent periods of clean time but have recently slipped again and though it's been a short period of use so far (and i have managed to avoid heroin, thank goodness) i am terrified of it escalating. i am so lucky to have survived all that i've been through so far and i feel like a piece of shit for falling into that "just this once" thinking yet again. i understand that kratom might be helpful not just for mitigating my (admittedly very mild at this point) withdrawal symptoms, but also as a recreational substance likely to be a lot less dangerous than any actual opiate i'm likely to use. basically, a short-term option to scratch that itch without risking losing everything all over again. i really don't know that i can survive another full-on run.

sorry for the exposition, probably not necessary, but i figured maybe it would be helpful in getting someone to recommend a specific type to look for to address my particular needs.

thanks in advance for any replies.
 
damonoxide said:
i'm sure somewhere in the two megathreads this has been addressed and i really hate to ask questions that have been answered, but i have read through several pages from each of the threads and haven't come across what i'm looking for yet.

also, just to be clear, i am not looking for sources, but i have zero experience with kratom and there are so many different strains and extracts out there that i don't really know what to go for. i am a long-term opiate addict with intermittent periods of clean time but have recently slipped again and though it's been a short period of use so far (and i have managed to avoid heroin, thank goodness) i am terrified of it escalating. i am so lucky to have survived all that i've been through so far and i feel like a piece of shit for falling into that "just this once" thinking yet again. i understand that kratom might be helpful not just for mitigating my (admittedly very mild at this point) withdrawal symptoms, but also as a recreational substance likely to be a lot less dangerous than any actual opiate i'm likely to use. basically, a short-term option to scratch that itch without risking losing everything all over again. i really don't know that i can survive another full-on run.

sorry for the exposition, probably not necessary, but i figured maybe it would be helpful in getting someone to recommend a specific type to look for to address my particular needs.

thanks in advance for any replies.
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The most economical strain to buy is by far bali. I've tried other strains before, maeng da, thai, bali x, but wasn't that impressed with them. The extra money for other strains IME isn't worth it, just get the premium bali powder.

I'd suggest buying capsules, or buying empty capsules and a capsule filling machine. It's quite unpleasant to eat the powder/leaf raw, and it's a pain and IME less effective to make tea. The capsules make it easy to take the kratom and then you can measure out your doses easily as well if you don't have a scale.

Good luck man. Kratom really is good for getting off of full agonist opiates. For me it completely eliminated all of my withdrawal symptoms, but I'd suggest you make a taper plan right away and don't stay on the kratom for more than a couple weeks.
 
^ I was on 30mg paxil when I started kratom, I didnt notice any weird effects like that, and could get a buzz off of 4g of shitty headshop kratom. I guess everydody is different. One point I would like to add is when I started kratom I liked to take 8g doses if I could afford it, but after about a month, I noticed that I could get a good buzz at 4g and stayed at that dose. It was like I had to know what kratom felt like to be able to enjoy smaller doses, anybody get this?
 
thanks for the reply, OEandricearoni. i reckon i'll try to figure out which vendor i'm gonna go with and order when i get paid this weekend. and yes, as soon as i figure out an effective dose i plan on developing a taper. definitely not looking for a new addiction, though i do hope that it is something i will be able to return to periodically for an opiate-like buzz without leading to the harder stuff. anyone have any thoughts on that? possible or wishful thinking?
 
^ I believe that would work, but you must be careful to not let it continue on to harder things, it's always a slippery slope. So off that subject, does anyone know the caloric content of Kratom? Is it negligible?
 
Hiltoniano said:
^ I believe that would work, but you must be careful to not let it continue on to harder things, it's always a slippery slope. So off that subject, does anyone know the caloric content of Kratom? Is it negligible?
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Probably negligible as it is all plant matter meaning is mostly fiber. I wouldnt worry about gaining weight from taking a kratom dose. You could completely avoid eating the plant matter by making tea if you want but it isn't even worth in IME eating the powdered leaf works better anyway.
 
Thanks, I wasn't worried about gaining weight though it was more just a curiosity. I assumed the same. I prefer mixing with yogurt, which does have calories obviously and after trying both tea and yogurt methods of consumption, yogurt wins because of better, longer affects as well as much easier process of eating and flavor masking.
 
jones-in_J said:
Nevermind i read the above post... was trying to avoid buyimg capsules since it takes a while to get them once ordered but sounds like its the only option
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Parachuting/bombing is also an option, but be careful to make the 'chutes small enough that they're easy to swallow with water in one gukp, or else you'll get the flavour, plus wet rolling paper trailing down your throat.
 
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