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Kratom The Kratom Megathread

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So here's my list of withdrawals from opiates compared to kratom and kratom "stem powder":

10/10 Heroin, bupe, fentanyl, methadone (I've never done those 4 but thats just by reading this forum)
8/10 Oxycontin, vicodins
7/10 Kratom extracts
6/10 Codeine
4/10 Kratom leaf powder
1/10 kratom "stem powder"

The good thing about taking kratom stem powder is it doesnt cause restless legs, it just saps your energy slightly for 4 days or so.

Feel free to add to that list if you dont agree with it :)
 
hey guys i have some UEI arriving tomorrow, I've never tried it before and am curious what a good dose would be for me.

I currently use kratom everyday, usually bali. I take around 30-40 600mg capsules a day, at doses between 10-15 capsules. (so like 5-8 gram doses) I don't want to accidentally take too much of the UEI, as I've heard its actually very potent. You guys think 2 grams is too much?

I've tried other kratom extracts, specifically the 15X powder and 8X resin but neither of them were effective at all for me. This came from a legit vendor whom I had been ordering quality kratom powder from for a while. I'm rather excited to see how well the UEI works tomorrow.
 
Stem powder will cause RLS just like the leaf will. Just because something does or does not happen to you doesn't make it a universal trait, and if you dig the hole deep enough you can expect RLS along with all our other favorite symptoms of withdrawal. Saying it won't sort of minimizes the risk, which IMO is counter-productive.
 
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OEandricearoni said:
hey guys i have some UEI arriving tomorrow, I've never tried it before and am curious what a good dose would be for me.

I currently use kratom everyday, usually bali. I take around 30-40 600mg capsules a day, at doses between 10-15 capsules. (so like 5-8 gram doses) I don't want to accidentally take too much of the UEI, as I've heard its actually very potent. You guys think 2 grams is too much?

I've tried other kratom extracts, specifically the 15X powder and 8X resin but neither of them were effective at all for me. This came from a legit vendor whom I had been ordering quality kratom powder from for a while. I'm rather excited to see how well the UEI works tomorrow.
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Cant speak for the UEI but i usually take 25g normal powder per dose and 2g of the SEM extract which is supposed to be comparable was more then enough. It was really good, far too good in fact which made me go back to normal powder
 
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OEandricearoni said:
hey guys i have some UEI arriving tomorrow, I've never tried it before and am curious what a good dose would be for me.

I currently use kratom everyday, usually bali. I take around 30-40 600mg capsules a day, at doses between 10-15 capsules. (so like 5-8 gram doses) I don't want to accidentally take too much of the UEI, as I've heard its actually very potent. You guys think 2 grams is too much?

I've tried other kratom extracts, specifically the 15X powder and 8X resin but neither of them were effective at all for me. This came from a legit vendor whom I had been ordering quality kratom powder from for a while. I'm rather excited to see how well the UEI works tomorrow.
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Cant speak for the UEI but i usually take 25g normal powder per dose and 2g of the SEM extract which is supposed to be comparable was more then enough. It was really good, far too good in fact which made me go back to normal powder
 
Does anyone else get withdrawal symptoms from kratom? Like, while high on kratom? The good feelings are definitely there, but they're muted by typical withdrawal symptoms (cold chills, runny nose, yawning, etc). I read that kratom contains both opiate agonists and antagonists...maybe that's why? Is there anything one could do to minimize the withdrawal-like side effects?
 
Lady Codone said:
Does anyone else get withdrawal symptoms from kratom? Like, while high on kratom? The good feelings are definitely there, but they're muted by typical withdrawal symptoms (cold chills, runny nose, yawning, etc). I read that kratom contains both opiate agonists and antagonists...maybe that's why? Is there anything one could do to minimize the withdrawal-like side effects?
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I've never noticed this, but i went from taking suboxone straight to kratom, and haven't used full agonist opiates while I've been taking the kratom at all. The kratom pretty much completely eliminated my suboxone withdrawal, but TBH all i did was trade one addiction for another unfortunately. Though kratom is a lot cheaper, so i did benefit from it.

On another note i just got my UEI and have just taken 2.5G of it. I hope i didn't go overboard but i think I'll be alright since i have a kratom tolerance..

So it's been about an hour since I took the UEI and I'm feeling pretty good. About half an our ago i took 8 bali 00 caps to top it off, and another .5g of UEI. I'm hoping i can actually catch a nod off this but my expectations aren't THAT high.

Anyone here have luck catching a nod off UEI? I'm asking people who have a lot of experience with opiates and kratom, people who have a decent opiate tolerance and have been using them for years, cause that is my situation.
 
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Lady Codone said:
Does anyone else get withdrawal symptoms from kratom? Like, while high on kratom? The good feelings are definitely there, but they're muted by typical withdrawal symptoms (cold chills, runny nose, yawning, etc). I read that kratom contains both opiate agonists and antagonists...maybe that's why? Is there anything one could do to minimize the withdrawal-like side effects?
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Yup, kratom causes withdrawal symptoms that initially last 4 days or so. Then there's a secondary very mild WD period that lasts 3 weeks or so.

Fun times
 
Lady Codone said:
Does anyone else get withdrawal symptoms from kratom? Like, while high on kratom? The good feelings are definitely there, but they're muted by typical withdrawal symptoms (cold chills, runny nose, yawning, etc). I read that kratom contains both opiate agonists and antagonists...maybe that's why? Is there anything one could do to minimize the withdrawal-like side effects?
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Thats weird if your experiencing those symptoms while still on a kratom buzz.
 
I have been experimenting with kratom for the last month. I would say I actually enjoy it more than most opiates.

A close friend who had an extreme 7 year opiate addiction has been clean of opiates for two months now and is enjoying life again thanks to occasional doses of kratom when the cravings get really bad. I could say this stuff has possibly saved her life.

I am glad I discovered this wonderful herb.
 
What is the consensus on what variety is the best for analgesia and mild euphoria? I've enjoyed maeng da but it gives me a bad hangover. I typically using high grade Bali over that Thai variety but I find the two to be similar.
 
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What is the consensus on what variety is the best for analgesia and mild euphoria? I've enjoyed maeng da but it gives me a bad hangover. I typically using high grade Bali over that Thai variety but I find the two to be similar.
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I prefer Maeng Da for euphoria. I have not noticed a hangover ever. I usually take 5g but only once or twice a week to keep the tolerance and WDs away. I have noticed that kratom falls a little short in the pain relief dept as compared to most opiates.
 
I really don't take it besides for when I don't have opiates. I usually use it in higher doses though around 8-10 grams of the m.d variety or 12-15 grams for the Bali or thai. Maeng Da is more enjoyable but I can't take it multiple days in a row like I would with the other types.
 
My favorite for analgesia is most Red Borneo strains, its very sedating compared to other strains so its best before bed. Making your own little blend with some maeng da or green malay might give you the proper results your looking for. While the red borneo is euphoric, it can take a while to kick in and is normally a pretty mild buzz, thats why I like to mix a little green vein in there.
 
I don't prefer a specific type of Kratom. From use to use i mostly switch between strains, which is a good possibility to slow down tolerance build-up, but tbh i don't feel much of a difference effects-wise but in potency. It's really simple: a low dose is more activating while a high dose puts you to sleep.
 
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