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Kratom The Kratom Megathread

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harlans said:
a few quick questions - this thread is really long so my questions may have already been answered. if so, i apologize for being a pain.

is it normal to run super hot and super cold? this is a new substance for me and i'm flying solo - no big brother to guide me on this one. i'm either sweating and shaking or shivering in cold. is this a typical side effect?

also, i've done a fair amount of research, but if there's anything you guys want to throw out that i should absolutely know right away - i'd be grateful if you shared! THANKS!! :)


edit: and also the itching, that pretty standard?
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I'm just throwing this out there, are you diabetic? Can you check your blood sugars during use?
 
harlans said:
yes, i take B supplements. i would think that pesticides were a possibility, but this happens with both vendors i've had. are the b complex vitamins an unfortunate interaction?
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Yup, most definitely!!!

I took Vit. B while taking kratom and started having panic attacks, shivers, weird dizzy feelings in my head, and almost had a seizure. The two dont mix for some reason, I dont know why. But when I stopped the Vit. B everything went away.

Try cutting out Vit. B for a month and see if everything goes away. It takes at least 2 weeks for vit. B to completely leave your system
 
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I'm having no prob using B12-supplements while using kratom.

Btw, i was wondering why i'm so horny these days and just today i read that during opiate-withdrawal there's a possible surge in sex-drive. Oh hell, yeah, there is, since i stopped taking kratom 8 days ago and from approx. day 3-4 i noticed a massive increase in libido which is even increasing now. Crazy shit. I could swear i wasn't that horny for years. Have taken Tramadol for the past 5 days, low dosed, who knows what happens if i'm skipping that, what is what i'll do from today on.

Ladies, here i come ;)
 
THCified said:
I'm having no prob using B12-supplements while using kratom
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B-12 is just one of the vit. B-complex vitamins. The others are:

Thiamine (B1)
Riboflavin (B2)
Niacin (B3)
Pyridoxine (B6)
Folic acid (B9)
Biotin (B7)
Pantothenic acid (B5)

I'm guessing if you took the complete complex + kratom you too would start getting weird side-effects

harlans said:
wow, who would've thought? thanks for the info - i will definitely try skipping my B supplement. %)
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Can you report back in a few weeks and let us know if it made a difference??
 
silentcowboy said:
^weird, what was it like?
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Really, really strange spacey feeling in my head followed by some panic attacks. I'm still not 100% sure it was the Vit. B's, but since I cut them out the weird side-effects seem to have subsided somewhat. I also take DLPA, which I've now stopped. So maybe that added to it as well.

Or maybe I fried my brain neurons, thats also possible
 
Does DLPA affect serotonin? I took 100mg 5-htp with kratom before and it was horrible, waves of terrible feelings and depression instead of the normal great feeling of kratom. I would avoid taking anything that affects serotonin with kratom. Did you take any psychedelics or weed? That could explain the spacey feeling and panic attacks. Although sometimes kratom makes me a bit anxious by itself, especially with green malay.
 
slayerhatesusall said:
Does DLPA affect serotonin? I took 100mg 5-htp with kratom before and it was horrible, waves of terrible feelings and depression instead of the normal great feeling of kratom
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I know for sure DLPA increases norepinephrine and endorphins. I dunno about serotonin though. Maybe I just got an overload of endorphins, since kratom also releases endorphins

EDIT: this site claims it does release serotonin. But I dont know how reliable their info is:

http://www.isnare.com/?aid=334480&ca=Medicines+and+Remedies

DLPA also helps the body release serotonin. Serotonin is a neurotransmitter, and when it's low it may leave you with a bad mood, poor concentration, and a headache. Serotonin is our natural mood stabilizer, sleep promoter, and mind-focusing chemical if we have enough of all four, our emotions are stable
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Maybe it does have something to do with serotonin, although Ive never had any problems. Ive taken kratom with vitamins (multivitamins, and the kirkland pack from CostCo with like 8 different pills), mushrooms, ssri's, and ectasy with the latter acting pretty hard on serotonin. People differ, maybe some people are more sensitive to it...

slayerhatesusall said:
Does DLPA affect serotonin? I took 100mg 5-htp with kratom before and it was horrible, waves of terrible feelings and depression instead of the normal great feeling of kratom. I would avoid taking anything that affects serotonin with kratom. Did you take any psychedelics or weed? That could explain the spacey feeling and panic attacks. Although sometimes kratom makes me a bit anxious by itself, especially with green malay.
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On another topic: I've noticed that if I don't drink enough water while using kratom that I get mega-agitation and rage. If I piss dark yellow, I know why I'm off my rocker. A couple of tall glasses of water then make me feel a lot better. Anyone else noticed something like this?
 
I havent personally, but i find water to increase effects, also eating like 10 mins taker taking it helps a TON. I think it kinda makes your body recognize it as nutrients.
 
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