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The Ketamine Discussion thread

what are the actual effects of ketamine? i've never tried it.. can it be compared to any other drug? what's the high like?
 
If you've ever tried other dissociatives like Nitrous or MXE, you might have an idea of what it feels like. A very rough comparison could be made to both psychadelics (in that it produces profound shifts in perception and consciousness) and opiates (in that it produces a relaxed and euphoric state and has a strong analgesic effect), but in reality the effect it causes, the experience it induces, is very different to both of those classes of drugs. Like most drugs, it's really something you have to have taken to understand. But here's a rough description I wrote in another thread:

You'll feel a sense of disconnection from your surroundings (derealization) and your own sense of identity (depersonalization), with reality taking on a 'video game-like' feel. Sensory experiences will become more vivid, music, TV, movies etc will become immersive and easy to lose yourself in. The effect on mood can vary depending on set and setting, if you're comfortable and relaxed, it can be incredibly euphoric, if you're in a bad situation or find the sense of disconnection scary, it can be agitating or anxiety inducing - although in my experience this is far less of an issue than it is with psychedelics, as the 'disconnected' feeling makes it hard to become too invested in any emotional state.

Most people find it rather more-ish, so be prepared for that. At higher doses the hallucinogenic effects become more pronounced, ramping up to the 'k-hole,' in which your sense of reality dissolves completely, you effectively pass out and sink into an otherworldy dream-like state, completely losing any sense of your body or the world around you. This can be a beautiful experience, incredibly profound and spiritual, but I'd imagine it could also be rather scary if you aren't ready for it, so keep track of your doseage.
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"if you're in a bad situation it can be agitating or anxiety inducing"

try being out at a doof on a semi k-hole dose with some irish cunt running around screaming weak aussie cunts u cunts dont know how to party.then cus i looked of my tits 1 eye open sometimes both he sat down next to me and just bagged me out the WHOLE trip until it wore off enough to where i was able to kinda stand up wobbling a bit told him to shut the fuck up (i just said what everyone was thinkingn but didn't have the balls to speak up) then he started on me and just me focused all his attention on fucking up my trip i felt VERY agitated the cunt was like twice my size and age and i was soooooo ready to fight him witch is not like me AT ALL.....i stared at him for like 2 hours beating him up in my head lol until he jumped up on stage and started tugging on his dick :/ then he walked over to me and his mate pretty much surrounded me but from a distance luckily my friend pulled me out of the situation and we went back to the car were i was fucking so pissed i tried to grab a spanner to go and bash his skull in but my mate stopped me luckily cus i would of regretted it big time
 
js, that's a fucked up sitcho. it sucks too when someone who is clearly bigger and stronger breaks your balls like that, especially at a doof where people should be having a good time etc
 
The spanner may have seemed like a good idea at the time but I'm glad your mate restrained you JS. The bigger the prick the smaller the dick. The guy sounds like a complete tosser, the only thing he would have pulled that night is his cock... or maybe his mates. ;)
 
I think that not so much the ketamine but in any situation where for whatever reason you were unable to respond to somebody bullying you for an hour straight, you would be left with a ton of angry energy after that
 
Sweet Jones said:
I think that not so much the ketamine but in any situation where for whatever reason you were unable to respond to somebody bullying you for an hour straight, you would be left with a ton of angry energy after that
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I second this, if anything K/MXE will make it less of an issue as I really don't give a shit about others while high on either. I mean if someone was sick/OD whatever then yes I'd care but an agro prick nahhh... let it slide and think "He's acting like this cause of blue balls... that and a massive inferiority complex in more than one area". Don't let other pricks ruin your night. However meth or 3 meo pcp and a few others, I know where JS is coming from...
 
does anyone have any experience or just anything to say with the differences between ketamine isomers?
 
ah yeah, sounds fairly accurate to how i found it last night, with the addition that i found the racemic longer lasting. couple mates told me it's been easier for them to hole on it though i havent had the opportunity to try that yet
 
I've heard that hallucinogens can help "cure" an addiction to opiates because of the insights gained during the trip. Do dissociatives such as Ketamine have any similar properties which may be explored by adventurous people? I understand that ket is related to opioods in some way, would a reduction in say, heroin over a week or two with an increase in ketamine over the same period help mitigate some of the more intense withdrawal symptoms, leaving only the lifelong depression, suicidal thoughts and PAWS to deal with?
 
I doubt it would be a silver bullet, but I know a lot of people who say that their experiences with ketamine have helped them quit or cut down on their addictions, at least temporarily. One friend was quite bad on the pipe a few years back, got stuck into a big pile of K one weekend and ended up doing a couple months sober afterwards. He went back to it eventually, but even a few months was pretty amazing compared to where he'd been beforehand.

I wonder if it's something to do with the 'reset' effect dissociatives seem to have on the brain, the same reason K is such a great recovery drug because it wipes out the grungy scat feeling after a big night?

Interestingly, on that topic, after my K use over the last few weeks I've found myself with a newfound resolution to cut off my drug use and change my life for the better, something that hasn't crossed my mind once since I dropped my first pill at 16 and loved it. It certainly wasn't overnight, I think I've been building up to it for a while, and I figure there's a good chance it won't be permanant, but this is the first time I've ever actually thought 'man, I've pushed this drug thing as far as it can go, time to knock it off,' instead of just 'oh I'll quit X since it's kinda fucking me up, but I can keep having fun with Y instead!' I even ended up giving away what was left of my stash, which is pretty revolutionary for me :p
 
i couldnt speak from experience with your specific addiction but a few times k has made me look at myself and think 'wtf', no lasting resolutions though
 
I always find doind K/MXE that I have little to no desire to do other substances for some time after using the dissociative. Can be days, weeks or even months. Running out of dissociatives while in a party mind set however and it's all on!
 
I love the antidepressant effects of ketamine, 1 x 50mg dose keeps me happy for 1.5ish weeks
 
K helps me smile about all those little things that make life rich and reminds me of the subtleties I overlook in day to day life

It doesn't take a k-hole either, a couple of bumps is all
 
I found ket to q
Work WDs pretty a while back I was feeling pretty shit after binging on smack for close to a week I found myself in full on WDs while wd ing from benzos at the same time (that was a very veryyyy bad time....) I found that snorting an average amount of ket to be almost as reliving as having a line or shot of smack
 
Control freak addict here. It took taking LSD a few times and hating everything about it to even begin to realize my drug use was about control. Not about being a crazy creative free spirit...

6+ years after giving MDMA the boot I found out that a long time aquiantance was a reasonably high up dealer. Would never have picked it. University lecturer ect...
Only sold Molly by the gram at absolute minimum and same with K.
So many bullshit stories of 80% pure MD I was skeptical. Anyway MD was as stated.

Week later I bought some K. A gram. 80% purity ect...

Long story short having never liked those sort of drugs I found K to be really fun. Was interspective and really made my life seem so simple. Only lasts 3 hours tops and could be killed by Xanax pretty quickly if it got out of control.

Had a few weekend K binges since and found it the only psych/ dissociative drug that I found enjoyable and usefull.

Each there own but the short half life and decent purity made it the only drug of that type that I found enjoyable.

Sustained use though will fuck your bladder like nothing else. Be carefull
 
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