Captain Brewster
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I feel ya there, dissociatives are the shit.
To drag the personality I create on dissociatives into sobriety would be phenomenal.
I would be complete.
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The Ketamine Discussion thread
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I feel ya there, dissociatives are the shit.
To drag the personality I create on dissociatives into sobriety would be phenomenal.
I would be complete.
DigitalLove
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Had crazy stomach cramps last night after having a couple of bumps. Had the time of my life till they started tho, definitely have found my new thing
lovepsychadelics
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Cut for sure. Have just finished up some damn pure shit myself 80 mg line and never get stomach issues of pure shit. Shame I only had like 300 mgs and have finished it off in 24 hours
that was the last of it. Mysterie I'll get back to you soon on the aniracetam and K. First time sighhhh.... K is lovely but a bit more mechanical than MXE. I find MXE to be like floating on clouds almost smack like (Mu agonist so no surprise). Just hit up 25 mgs of 2cb and hovered the last 80 mgs!! Magical except I needed a little Xanax for anxiety on the come up. I LOVE benzo's with K and others plus 2cb... nice and colorful experience, feeling empathetic but relaxed, euphoric but chilled... really wired but calm. Strange and lovely... "Both aniracetam (25, 50, 100 mg/kg os) and oxiracetam (50 mg/kg os) restored object recognition in aging rats, in rats treated with scopolamine, and with lesions of the nucleus basalis. In the rat, object discrimination appears to depend on the integrity of the cholinergic system, and nootropic drugs can correct its disruption." www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8808132 Scopolamine is a deliriant but has similar dissociative effects as K so the combo may make your trip more functional or less intense. This is just a guess based on a few articles I could be bothered to read so and couldn't find similar trials using K so go easy. Enjoy!!!Sorry, can't answer because I don't have the experience, but i am interested inthis, too.
I am planning on taking piracetam soon as part of a recovery plan from months of heavy dissociative abuse. I am saving teh piracetam for affter I've finsihed with the dissociatives, but I'll also be tapering from benzos during this time.
I'll look into it before starting, but I'm curious to know about interactions between racetams and K, MXE, benzos, and stims, if anyone has the knowledge off the top of their heads....
Mysterie: please let us know how you go after your K and aniracetam experiment.
You know, the irony of this is cruel. I found MXE to be a wonder drug for a good many months. I enjoyed it on its own, and in combination with damn near everything else I took.
It also helped me to reduce my opiate intake and taper off a relatively moderate benzo habit.
HOWEVER... the cruel irony bit:
It is the very fact that it does not cause physical dependency, has virtually no crash or hangover (the opposite in fact, I'd often feel better the days after a decent sized MXE dose), and for many people - I'm one of the lucky ones - doesn't have any side effects compared to stims, benzos, opiates, alcohol, etc... it is these things that led to me abusing MXE like nothing else I've ever done before.
This was a good two or three years back. I was lucky enough to get a decent amount, which I thought would basically last forever. I won't go into specifics about how much I ended up taking and how quickly I got through the supply which I had initially (and stupidly called "a lifetime supply), but there is no doubt that I was addicted to it. I ended up using in all day, every day. Even when it became clear that I was starting to experience delusional thoughts, and behaving in a way that had friends and family very concerned about my mental stability, I kept going. I couldn't stop until it was all gone.
It's almost too perfect: a versatile drug which seems to do a million different things (and gives radically different experiences via different ROAs) and can be used and even abused to excess without immediately noticeable side-effects. The fact is, it's ridiculously (psychologically) addictive. If you have a choice between knowing that you can feel better with minimal to nil negative after effects, what rationale do you have not to take it all the time?
Lastly:
I've posted a few times about 3-MeO-PCP. It's also a hell of a drug, but don't treat it as an MXE replacement. It is very, very potent, and efffects are non-linear. You can quickly get into trouble with redosing and find yourself experiencing overwhelming states of psychosis-like episodes. It's not forgiving like MXE, and is best left as a once in a while thing.
Foreigner
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I've used a ketamine regimen for depression with great success. Doses at 12mg or below seem to have the opposite effects of high doses and trigger certain kinds of brain repair.
lovepsychadelics
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3 meo-pcp is unforgiving if you over use ie a few 5-10 mg doses over several hours seems to just increase the effect till you get so out of it, very intense, could see it causing "dust delirium" like pcp. It's as unforgiving in that respect as MDPV. I agree with the psychological addiction if you have access to large amounts. Used a 1-2 grams a week for 5 weeks while in UK (and it was technically legal). Starts out with just a few small (20 mg) a day and within a few days your just hitting it cause it's there, it was cheap and tolerance builds fast. Best used to tapper off other drugs and then down size your use. Hard to do if you have a "life time supply", those kind of supplies never last that long. I agree with Foreigner using one or two small doses a day of K, around 10-20 mg, does seem to repair rather than fry your brain. 3 meo would not be good for this as the dose level is so damn low and measuring 1 mg is a pain. 3 meo also seems to be active for ages. 25 mg total in 3 doses of 5-10 mg over 4 hours had me still feeling affected almost 10 hours later.
junkie skumbag
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hmmm sounds interting i've got a bag of K stashed away in the safe n might start trying this out.....ive been taking 5-http and it seems to work REALLY well for me as a anti-D or what ever,would it have any effects on the K....also a old friend of mine has been IV'ing ketamine and saying how good it is and how little you need.whats the go with that would it be safe to shoot a small amount?or for HR purposes it would not be advised........everything i inject is micron filtered well the only thing i inject anymore is MS contin due to its poor BA such a cunt having to use those huge 10cc barrels
lovepsychadelics
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K just hits hard and quick when you IV like in a few seconds. IM gives you a minute or two before it hits. Enough time to withdraw the pick and get comfortable. IV you would need to get comfy and sorted and then use. Micron is always a must no matter what IMO. Even really pure K may have a small amount of cut if it is not pharmacy hospital/vet grade. Illicit K like the S isomer Indian K may have cutters from the source of production to increase profit. Then more cutters may be added once it reaches street level distribution.
On separate and very personal note I have been through hell this last week coming down from a bender last weekend. I thought I'd try synthetic weed as a weed substitute during the come down. I have not used this stuff for a while but it's available at the local shopping center and older blends have been okish. I had almost no K left and getting weed was more effort than I could be bothered with. Felt ill as soon as I smoked it. I've experimented once or twice earlier in the year with MXE and synthetic and just got really smashed. Synthetic weed is poison but I've been ok having it on the odd occasion.
This latest stuff was like an instant heroin with-drawl minus the itching. Nausea, sweating, headache, hallucination, paranoia, felt like death and wanted more despite feeling sick and feeling sicker with every toke. I tried a line of K (the last of it) to ease the synthetic with-drawl and blacked out. Needless to say I threw it out (synthetic weed shit) but have suffered 2 days of with-drawl. K may have helped if I had any left but the black out was kinda scary. Xanax and panadine forte have eased the pain. I fear xanax with-drawl but this new synthetic weed shit is rubbish and I'll chance xanax with-drawl over this new synthetic weed any day. Whatever this new Qld legal blend is it's dangerous as fuck. Off the drugs for a while, my enthusiasm has totally vanished after this past week and I look and feel like I've aged a decade.
On separate and very personal note I have been through hell this last week coming down from a bender last weekend. I thought I'd try synthetic weed as a weed substitute during the come down. I have not used this stuff for a while but it's available at the local shopping center and older blends have been okish. I had almost no K left and getting weed was more effort than I could be bothered with. Felt ill as soon as I smoked it. I've experimented once or twice earlier in the year with MXE and synthetic and just got really smashed. Synthetic weed is poison but I've been ok having it on the odd occasion.
This latest stuff was like an instant heroin with-drawl minus the itching. Nausea, sweating, headache, hallucination, paranoia, felt like death and wanted more despite feeling sick and feeling sicker with every toke. I tried a line of K (the last of it) to ease the synthetic with-drawl and blacked out. Needless to say I threw it out (synthetic weed shit) but have suffered 2 days of with-drawl. K may have helped if I had any left but the black out was kinda scary. Xanax and panadine forte have eased the pain. I fear xanax with-drawl but this new synthetic weed shit is rubbish and I'll chance xanax with-drawl over this new synthetic weed any day. Whatever this new Qld legal blend is it's dangerous as fuck. Off the drugs for a while, my enthusiasm has totally vanished after this past week and I look and feel like I've aged a decade.
Sweet Jones
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I think I'd better put this stuff down for a week or so, it's getting too delicious.
junkie skumbag
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all of that synthitic weed stuff is SHIT i havnt used it since the first blends came out (kronic skunk) and overdosesed on the stuff not much fun hate was racing my liver hurt really really bad and i felt dizzy non stop (kind of like when u smoke weed and your REALLY drunk) dont chance it with xanax WD's man they are bad bad bad baaaaad ive gone through some full on opiate WD's and would take them any day over benzo WD's again.not to mention benzo WDs can kill you.i hope your feeling better mate maybe you should try some promethazine or dolaxyamine to calm you along with the codeine.again i hope your feeling better please let us know how your feeling in a few days all the best J~S PLUR
tiestoberlin27
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My first post go easy on me, Just a experience I had a few years ago with my ex girlfriend while on k just want your thoughts?,
First of all my brother had passed away months earlier.
We had a small line then 30 - 40 minutes later had more under a point all up each? Anyway had some visuals of things moving a bit but felt alright then All of a sudden I said I want to see my brother (who had passed away). Then I seen a black gate with darkness behind it and I believe we both fell in the k hole at same time at that stage. In all that time we were out of it I wasn't seeing visuals more just darkness but it was like me and my girlfriend were connected in the trip that I was her voice guiding her along the way some how. What ended it was I spoke out something like "why do u get to see him or something" and automatically said fuk I shouldn't have said that it made me come out of it then she come back to reality to, the music was so loud and lights on when I come to it and realised that over a hour had passed or more hadn't planned on going in k hole, but I had no visuals apart from black gate then blackness and what felt like we were connected In the k hole like telepathy or something guiding her to see him, if I was out of it I wouldn't of been talking would I during it? Just want to know if it is possible to connect like that while on K?
The weird thing was it was either that night or next night we were in bed sober going to sleep all of a sudden I heard In my head what sounded like someone with concrete shoes running getting louder and louder and louder was real strange I sat up and my misses believes she had the same experience. Cant see why she would lie about it. So just wanting to know has anyone else had anything similar happen or is it possible on k? . cheers guys/girls
First of all my brother had passed away months earlier.
We had a small line then 30 - 40 minutes later had more under a point all up each? Anyway had some visuals of things moving a bit but felt alright then All of a sudden I said I want to see my brother (who had passed away). Then I seen a black gate with darkness behind it and I believe we both fell in the k hole at same time at that stage. In all that time we were out of it I wasn't seeing visuals more just darkness but it was like me and my girlfriend were connected in the trip that I was her voice guiding her along the way some how. What ended it was I spoke out something like "why do u get to see him or something" and automatically said fuk I shouldn't have said that it made me come out of it then she come back to reality to, the music was so loud and lights on when I come to it and realised that over a hour had passed or more hadn't planned on going in k hole, but I had no visuals apart from black gate then blackness and what felt like we were connected In the k hole like telepathy or something guiding her to see him, if I was out of it I wouldn't of been talking would I during it? Just want to know if it is possible to connect like that while on K?
The weird thing was it was either that night or next night we were in bed sober going to sleep all of a sudden I heard In my head what sounded like someone with concrete shoes running getting louder and louder and louder was real strange I sat up and my misses believes she had the same experience. Cant see why she would lie about it. So just wanting to know has anyone else had anything similar happen or is it possible on k? . cheers guys/girls
tiestoberlin27
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See people talking about mxe never had heard about it, is it very similar to k? which would have better feel? only usually take k small dose for fun not k holed but cant find
junkie skumbag
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mxe is VERY fun its an analog of ketamine and pcp ( i think) you need much muuuuuch less mxe than you would ketamine.thing is tho if you binge on mxe for more than a day or 2 it really starts putting bad thoughts into your head and im not the only one of that has had those bad thoughts after a massive mxe bender...........personally i'd pefer ketamine cus its been around longer studys have been done all that razz mc jazz but mxe is fucking great too.......be VERY careful if you are on mdma and take MXE.i was not aware of this until i had done it myself and wound up with minor serotonin syndrome out at a beach doof..............it all comes down to personal preference i love how even the smallest ammount of mxe makes walking super fucking hard whereas you do get a simmilar effect off ketamine but you have to have a fair bit to achieve that feeling
junkie skumbag
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when a close friend of mine died i was using K and this was when i'd binge on the shit having stupidly high doses commming out of a K hole and then snorting more to send me straight back in,a few times i felt as if i was connecting with him talking to him and all that.but it could of just been a drug induced trip bought on by my friend recently dieing who knows.i guess we wont until we die one day
lovepsychadelics
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Xanax with-drawl or any benzo with-drawl is HELL. I have used it with K/mxe etc in the past and it makes the experience more pleasurable IMO. Recently I did have some benzo with-drawl combined with serotonin syndrome and then the synthetic shit. It was HELL that is why I'm sober now. Walk through the valley of the shadow of death come out of it in one piece you will rethink your use/addiction etc and probably do what I did quit. K is a great anti-depressant though and I hope it becomes an option for people with sever depression as it's much safer and better than ECG. Almost 1 week strait and I'm loving it. Going to take a while before I can skate for 1 hour straight and not be breathless but just doing things like that give me pleasure while before I dug a dark hole. I think using K in the past has helped turn my view of life around, that and the hellish with-drawl I experienced... Well I cracked when I found a small amount of 3 meo pcp I had tucked away and forgot about today while cleaning. 3 meo-pcp is too stimulating on it's own and fuck trying to hole on this stuff could end up being a horror experience. Had 10 mgs + bag lick out and felt a bit speedy but nice and slight dissociation, very weird stuff, probably more similar to the old school angel dust than anything else in this family of substances. Heart still pounding but not bad, enough to be a reminded for me to stay sober, my health sucks.
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Sweet Jones
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anyone know much or have anything to say about 2-meo-ketamine? Looking at getting a batch, I understand it's less potent than k but similar in other regards
I had a couple of goes at 2-meo-ket; one from a vendor I'd never used and the product was crap, and another from the most reliable vendor I've ever come across... and I can say that 2-meo-ket is probably the most useless substance I've ever consumed.
I could not get anything from it. Nothing. I tried different ROAs, and amounts. Nothing.
I do have a tolerance to dissociatives, but I'm also very sensitive to the effects of substances as I've become highly attuned to my mind and body's states and reactions.
This is the only substance I've tried that honestly could have been inert powder. I'd have said it was in fact inert powder if I'd only tried it once from one vendor, but the other vendor I have used for years and have never, ever been given a dodgy product.
I'd be curious to hear from anyone else who has tried it and what their experience was.... please report back Sweet Jones if you do go ahead with it.
I could not get anything from it. Nothing. I tried different ROAs, and amounts. Nothing.
I do have a tolerance to dissociatives, but I'm also very sensitive to the effects of substances as I've become highly attuned to my mind and body's states and reactions.
This is the only substance I've tried that honestly could have been inert powder. I'd have said it was in fact inert powder if I'd only tried it once from one vendor, but the other vendor I have used for years and have never, ever been given a dodgy product.
I'd be curious to hear from anyone else who has tried it and what their experience was.... please report back Sweet Jones if you do go ahead with it.
Sweet Jones
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looks like i am going ahead with it as its gonna be cheap enough that i wont really care if it is an inert powder, mate reckons it's 1/2 - 2/3 the strength of the K we've been getting, i'll see what i can get out of it and report back in a couple weeks