Ksmut69
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The High Dose LSD Appreciation Thread!
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Drderms
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Love high doses of lsd love just laying there and waving my arm around it looks so cool
Astronaught
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I have read thru this whole thread and I found it quite incredible. I never considered doing high doses of LSD, and for a long time only stuck to the 100-150 mics range. Recently, I got a 200 mics blot from the deep rabbit hole market, and the source is reliable. I did it with a friend who had also only stuck to that range. Both of us have tripped on LSD many times, probably 15+, but never higher than 150. I didnt think people were taking such high doses as 500 mics and above.
Anyway, I want the opinions of all those of you who have gone beyond 200 mics. On 200 mics, my first time doing that dose ever, going into the peak of it, I was feeling this strong sensation of forgetting who i was, and I even asked my friend 'is this ego death?', because I had never before quite fully experienced ego death in any of my trips before. Very close once or twice, where i forgot who i was or where i was or what was going on, and not being able to make sense of all the movement that was happening on this random piece of land before me (it was a rave and people were dancing :-/) but i was calm through out, and if i tried really hard, i could remember who i was or where i was, then it faded again. I was just sitting there puzzled the whole night.
So back to the trip, soon after i articulated this question, i entered the peak and this experience was very unsettling and extremely intense for me. I felt my sense of self, reality, sense of meaning in the world all slipping away, and i resisted and held onto it, believing that if i let my mind completely forget who i was and all my 27 years of existence, that i could never go back to my normal life ever again. It was confusing, scary, panic inducing, and the world looked absolutely absurd. I was hallucinating like crazy but could barely pay attention to the visuals because I was totally lost in my head, and at some points truly believed that i had gone insane, never to come back to sanity again. There were few other moments that was so ineffable and so surreal (what the actual experience was or felt like, i cant recall anymore, but just my thoughts and reactions to it) that i felt like even if i got back to normal, i could never unsee what i had seen or unexperience what i had experienced, and therefore could never function in my ordinary sober daily life again. There were a few moments where I experienced eternity, but an eternity of absurdity, of me believing my whole life had been a figment of my imagination, that my family, friends, girlfriend, everything was made up, and that i had been standing there in the middle of the forest in a clearing (where we had chose to trip) since the beginning of time and will be standing right there forever, imagining up stories of a life that was not real. I was desperately trying to prove the objective reality of the world around me in my head, making to myself logical arguments that proved the existence of an objective reality outside of me. Like, that fact that i was wearing clothes, must mean there is an objective life outside of my head where clothes mean something and serve a purpose and are necessary, and my life had therefore not been imaginary but real etc. During the peak of my trip, it did not help me at all to think that I was just experiencing 200 mics of acid. Everytime I told myself that, I thought 'no way this is 200 mics. this intensity is at least like 800 mics or maybe even a 1000 mics, and i didnt do that much. Now i've done it. This is why people say dont do drugs. I pushed it too far. Now i flipped a switch and i've lost my sanity. Nothing will ever make sense to me anymore.'
It was a harrowing experience to say the least. Coming down from the peak later, I had tears of gratitude that i had, in fact, not gone crazy and was, in fact, coming back down to my ordinary reality again. At the time, I told myself out loud that i would never ever do LSD ever again, that someone had to be insane to pay money to go thru that horrifying experience. Of course after completely coming down i marveled at the experience and knew i wouldn't stop doing LSD lol. But this has put a little fear into me now, and I am reluctant to take anything more than 150 mics. I realize I was at the door of ego death and resisted, and that's probably what turned my trip bad.
But I want to know from all you experienced trippers if my trip sounds familiar to you. Is this how intense 200 mics usually is? Did i just maybe freak out because it was my first time doing a high does like that? Will the next time be easier or better? Or will it be as intense and I just have to figure out a way to let go and stay calm to enjoy the experience? What is 300 or 400 mics compared to this? Is it true that doing doses even higher than 250 mics will push me completely past the paranoia and fear and all the resisting ego death phase and just take me to another place? Should I start slow and build up to 200 mics next time, or will I be able to handle it better if i jump into 200 mics again, now that I know what it feels like? Oh god, so many questions. And so strange, reading about all the people talking about the most amazing trips on 500+ mics, something i cant even fathom right now. Can i get any tips for next time? I hope someone here can relate to what i said and understand me. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts and opinions.
Anyway, I want the opinions of all those of you who have gone beyond 200 mics. On 200 mics, my first time doing that dose ever, going into the peak of it, I was feeling this strong sensation of forgetting who i was, and I even asked my friend 'is this ego death?', because I had never before quite fully experienced ego death in any of my trips before. Very close once or twice, where i forgot who i was or where i was or what was going on, and not being able to make sense of all the movement that was happening on this random piece of land before me (it was a rave and people were dancing :-/) but i was calm through out, and if i tried really hard, i could remember who i was or where i was, then it faded again. I was just sitting there puzzled the whole night.
So back to the trip, soon after i articulated this question, i entered the peak and this experience was very unsettling and extremely intense for me. I felt my sense of self, reality, sense of meaning in the world all slipping away, and i resisted and held onto it, believing that if i let my mind completely forget who i was and all my 27 years of existence, that i could never go back to my normal life ever again. It was confusing, scary, panic inducing, and the world looked absolutely absurd. I was hallucinating like crazy but could barely pay attention to the visuals because I was totally lost in my head, and at some points truly believed that i had gone insane, never to come back to sanity again. There were few other moments that was so ineffable and so surreal (what the actual experience was or felt like, i cant recall anymore, but just my thoughts and reactions to it) that i felt like even if i got back to normal, i could never unsee what i had seen or unexperience what i had experienced, and therefore could never function in my ordinary sober daily life again. There were a few moments where I experienced eternity, but an eternity of absurdity, of me believing my whole life had been a figment of my imagination, that my family, friends, girlfriend, everything was made up, and that i had been standing there in the middle of the forest in a clearing (where we had chose to trip) since the beginning of time and will be standing right there forever, imagining up stories of a life that was not real. I was desperately trying to prove the objective reality of the world around me in my head, making to myself logical arguments that proved the existence of an objective reality outside of me. Like, that fact that i was wearing clothes, must mean there is an objective life outside of my head where clothes mean something and serve a purpose and are necessary, and my life had therefore not been imaginary but real etc. During the peak of my trip, it did not help me at all to think that I was just experiencing 200 mics of acid. Everytime I told myself that, I thought 'no way this is 200 mics. this intensity is at least like 800 mics or maybe even a 1000 mics, and i didnt do that much. Now i've done it. This is why people say dont do drugs. I pushed it too far. Now i flipped a switch and i've lost my sanity. Nothing will ever make sense to me anymore.'
It was a harrowing experience to say the least. Coming down from the peak later, I had tears of gratitude that i had, in fact, not gone crazy and was, in fact, coming back down to my ordinary reality again. At the time, I told myself out loud that i would never ever do LSD ever again, that someone had to be insane to pay money to go thru that horrifying experience. Of course after completely coming down i marveled at the experience and knew i wouldn't stop doing LSD lol. But this has put a little fear into me now, and I am reluctant to take anything more than 150 mics. I realize I was at the door of ego death and resisted, and that's probably what turned my trip bad.
But I want to know from all you experienced trippers if my trip sounds familiar to you. Is this how intense 200 mics usually is? Did i just maybe freak out because it was my first time doing a high does like that? Will the next time be easier or better? Or will it be as intense and I just have to figure out a way to let go and stay calm to enjoy the experience? What is 300 or 400 mics compared to this? Is it true that doing doses even higher than 250 mics will push me completely past the paranoia and fear and all the resisting ego death phase and just take me to another place? Should I start slow and build up to 200 mics next time, or will I be able to handle it better if i jump into 200 mics again, now that I know what it feels like? Oh god, so many questions. And so strange, reading about all the people talking about the most amazing trips on 500+ mics, something i cant even fathom right now. Can i get any tips for next time? I hope someone here can relate to what i said and understand me. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts and opinions.
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BananaCoupon
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I find i cant achieve any spiritual enlightenment with out taking larger doses of acid, smaller doses become more recreational to me, although given the right set and setting any dose can become profound.
Muzda Jonxx
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Nice to find a thread with like minded people about the high dose acid thing. Anything less than 750ug is a waste for me. Much more than 750ug is dicey because I'll invariably have a good few hours where I remember not a thing and tend to accidentally destroy things. To the guy who took 12mg somewhere in the middle of this thread, hats off! That's the most reckless acid related act that I've ever heard of, other than the mythical dreaded thumb print. I'm not sure I'd ever come back from that.
GaryGlisten
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Interesting piece about the thumbprint phenomenon. http://insanebraintrain.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/massive-dosing-lsd-thumbprint.html
lysergamide
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I used to love ChinaCat posts back in the day. But years on and many trips later I just find it a bit silly. I've never heard of anyone needing 'initiating' to work or gain access to crystal acid, even the purest, it's been knowing a chemist or having lots of cash.
Even from this additional report this person doesn't seemed to have received any further enlightenment than anyone who doses even a standard or high dose LSD trip.
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There are countless LSD trip reports reporting the exact same thing at much lower doses except it seems with a thumbprint your permanently fucked afterwards. Additionally the person who thumbprints now thinks they have been 'chosen' for the thumbprint based on their character and that because no one has experienced it they can't possibly understand the same thoughts even if they've taken LSD, just sounds like the ego at play to me. What made them eligible for a thumbprint? The fact they trafficked loads of LSD?
If you want to think your dead go smoke some DMT or similar tryptamines or if that's enough do it on LSD. It all just seems like mysticism. All that needlepoint stuff is a load of shit too, a chemist wants purity/% a ratio of LSD to iso-LSD and impurities, not some silly term based on its appearance or colour.
Does it not make more sense to share out the thumbprint and get more people thinking the same way than to waste it all on yourself?
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GaryGlisten
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I posted that as I thought the replies were interesting and there is a link to a medical report from an incident in 1972 when 8 people snorted LSD at a party, believing it was cocaine. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1129381/pdf/westjmed00307-0025.pdf
The seriousness of the physical effects on the participants of this much LSD casts some doubt on the veracity of the thumbprint legend.
The seriousness of the physical effects on the participants of this much LSD casts some doubt on the veracity of the thumbprint legend.
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lysergamide
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Yeah, apologies, I definitely should have scrolled more than 5 comments before making that post! Very valid point with the medical report.
I was of the same thinking staying around the 100 to 200 mcgs, range but recently went to 300 and it was definitely a much better trip. I sometimes get anxious on the come-up and can find myself restless but not really 'there' with the smaller doses but the 300mcgs took me right where I wanted to go with no problems on the come up. It was 1p-LSD as that's all I can source at the moment.
WAS wondering would ETH-LAD be the same at 300 mcgs or does it get more difficult to manage at those higher levels?
Xorkoth
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I have taken ETH-LAD once at 300ug (the only time I've done it thus far), and I found it very strong, especially visually, it was an absolute visual soup of awesomeness. Mentally I felt more with it and calm than I would on an LSD trip that strong. I rarely get anxious come-ups anymore on anything, but I would say ETH-LAD comes up stronger than LSD, and some people report it to be quite rough, which I would imagine would increase at higher dosages. I found the ETH-LAD mindstate to be kinda similar to mescaline, I felt quite peaceful and zen, despite the intense effects. Definitely not as out there as LSD, and no hints of the delerium that can come with LSD.
Toltec
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I Love the higher doses, especially 300ug and up to 700ug. Anything after 700ug is blackout time for me.
At usually the first or second peak .. I'll sit up and like shake my head, just so too, snap me back, then to loss myself again & again in the insightful giddiness of euphoric bliss .
Music is Amazing with LSD. Acess to the akashic realms for info is just a thought vibration away, as all/most answers to question one wonders about before a trip comes to the surface, just for you to understand a new paradigm, bring in an awareness a way to do something different to better this planet.
Yes, Eth-Lad is amazing as well.. as ALD-52 each has its own use for spiritual type work.
As a lightworker is careful with these psychedelic. They can influence someone in a direction they might not want to venture into.
At usually the first or second peak .. I'll sit up and like shake my head, just so too, snap me back, then to loss myself again & again in the insightful giddiness of euphoric bliss .
Music is Amazing with LSD. Acess to the akashic realms for info is just a thought vibration away, as all/most answers to question one wonders about before a trip comes to the surface, just for you to understand a new paradigm, bring in an awareness a way to do something different to better this planet.
Yes, Eth-Lad is amazing as well.. as ALD-52 each has its own use for spiritual type work.
As a lightworker is careful with these psychedelic. They can influence someone in a direction they might not want to venture into.
Would you be willing to expand upon this? I have a general idea of what you mean but it seems you are farther down the path than I with I'm sure valuable insights.
lysergamide
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If you've a benzo tolerance 2-3mg at least. I think xanax is only good for if it's a mild bad trip/anxiety attack. If someone is going into complete meltdown mode (i.e. getting naked, jabbering nonsense) then I've found xanax completely ineffective even in 5mg+ dose amounts with no benzo tolerance, they really need an anti-psychotic or a more sedative benzo just to k.o them. Once you get into a strong LSD trip it's very powerful and can override a lot of things, really it depends on how much control the person has and their experience with psychedelics.
If someone is having a bad trip it's just about not moving, breathing and not fighting it. If the person is unable to do that a high dose of a non-sedative benzo like alprazolam/pyrazolam/etc isn't going to do shit unless you dose them so high they are knocked out and really if that was the case you should've just used a more sedative benzo. Even diazepam can be ineffective. Some people go into completely different realities once you get into that territory.
Toltec
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What I mean is psy997 I am directing this to first timers and young people taking 250ug on up. In this 3d duality we live in,
everyone has a dark side to them too, that is usually hidden and never manifest.. Sometimes with newbies they flip.. if there set and setting is off depending on content of what they are exposed to.. Can change them..
By dark side i mean.. a complaner, whoah is me, i can't, hypochondriacs people with a negative langish that holds them back. The people who were tought and brought up in disfuntionel families those environments that teach lak.. (it's Not there falts).
Psychedelic can lock them in.
All of the posible bad thing can be prevented if psychedelic where legal and trip guilds where a rule of thumb for first time users.
Albeit Out of the millions using psychedelic it has done more good than harm. I feel this is a game of dice, when you are using LSD for the first time with out guidance.
Here at BL there are so many folk saying the wrong things the risk takers, the D-sizer... And there are the way showers too .. Your choice what road will you take.
As different streams having different sources all mingle their waters in the sea, so different tendencies, various though they appear, crooked or straight, all lead to source eventually.
everyone has a dark side to them too, that is usually hidden and never manifest.. Sometimes with newbies they flip.. if there set and setting is off depending on content of what they are exposed to.. Can change them..
By dark side i mean.. a complaner, whoah is me, i can't, hypochondriacs people with a negative langish that holds them back. The people who were tought and brought up in disfuntionel families those environments that teach lak.. (it's Not there falts).
Psychedelic can lock them in.
All of the posible bad thing can be prevented if psychedelic where legal and trip guilds where a rule of thumb for first time users.
Albeit Out of the millions using psychedelic it has done more good than harm. I feel this is a game of dice, when you are using LSD for the first time with out guidance.
Here at BL there are so many folk saying the wrong things the risk takers, the D-sizer... And there are the way showers too .. Your choice what road will you take.
As different streams having different sources all mingle their waters in the sea, so different tendencies, various though they appear, crooked or straight, all lead to source eventually.
The Shadow Self
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In my finer moments, on high doses of LSD, that exceeding 700ug, that is, I have seen what I thought, at the time, were the answers to the most sacred and guarded secrets of all time. During those times, I felt as though there was no distinction between me and the entire universe, and that I had been "shown" everything there is to see. Yes..........that's some high-dose LSD shit for you. 
Research Professor
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Temporary glimpses of the Truth. Sounds like a temporary enlightenment. Like Ram Dass says, if only there wasn't the comedown....In my finer moments, on high doses of LSD, that exceeding 700ug, that is, I have seen what I thought, at the time, were the answers to the most sacred and guarded secrets of all time. During those times, I felt as though there was no distinction between me and the entire universe, and that I had been "shown" everything there is to see. Yes..........that's some high-dose LSD shit for you.
Research Professor
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I don't use LSD anymore. The chemical turned dark on me, no matter the purity, I truly believe there are spirits involved in realms beyond our mundane senses when we utilize these molecules to gain access to whether consciously or not so much maybe we're just naive and novice psychonauts with little to no understanding not to speak of belief in the metaphysical layers of reality and the big, wide multiverse.
The Shadow Self
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Oh, it sure can turn dark on you. It's what made me stop doing LSD for over a decade. Part of the plunge into the abyss was my abusing it, frequently doubling up heroic doses and such. I had some trips where I was convinced that I was "in hell" and saw all manner of extraordinary and profoundly "evil" things. LSD has always been a little dark for me, anyway, since that's part of who I am. There were times when I embraced this darkness, then came a time when the battle for my sanity was taking place and I just had to stop. It is both the most wonderful drug and the most catastrophic, if you let it be. I have seen this highest of highs, and the lowest of lows.