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The GHB/GBL Addiction & Withdrawal Thread

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Ruffchuck said:
ETA Thanks loulou you are correct 3.5mg is strong dose of Zopi for me, and 7.5mg I pretty much have to take in bed as it kicks in hard, but I've not taken it whilst on G and stimulants. However knowing it's strength I wouldn't dare take 2 of the 7.5mg and would question the safety of it with benzo's esp for a new user. I only wanted it to get my night time routine on track as I have got into a habit of doing the GBL in evening and then stimulants to stay awake and doing it thru the night - bad idea LOL
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Just to add the zopiclone I bought was fake even though I bought it from the place I get decent valium from, and trying to get to sleep is ridiculous at the moment even with benzo's so I really could have done with the assured lon g sleep on that for a night or so. I bought the zopiclone ages ago so can't really complain now.

Is mixing my GBL with my methylphenidate making this worse? I stop the methylphenidate when tapering the G and take a herbal substitute as I take high doses of methylphenidate when taking G to counteract some of the drowsy stage with some doses.

Advice appreciated.

Also my ADHD is all about Dopamine so does that mean it's having a alernative w/d effect on me because of that - some people here seem so knowledgeable I wondered if there was any feedback.

Cheers all <3

Also if TREACLE is reading this could you give me a hand please? Am I right in thinking Phenibut powder is legal to buy online. You say in a post to email you for taperin information but as I am not at the right level it won't let me send any private messages so I can't take you up on your offer of advice


NEXT DAY UPDATE 25mg Valium and I slept like a baby the last GBL dose befor that was 1.30pm that day, always been a bit reserved on the valium and maybe undeused when coming off, but that worked a treat and I feel fine today, had only been back on it a few days but it worked quickly, feel great today.
 
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Methylphenidate with G is fine, but will cause withdrawal symptoms to appear quite violently when you are due a dose of G. Stopping it when tapering the G is definitely a good idea.

Phenibut is legal to buy, possess and sell in the UK. Any other questions, just ask here. :)
 
Sorry about that DS. I know how easy it is to get back on it once you've gotn clean. How are you getting re-exposed to it though? I assume you got rid of all the G in your house when you got clean. Are your friends using it around you or something, or did you just buy another bottle in a moment of weakness?
 
TJF said:
Sorry about that DS. I know how easy it is to get back on it once you've gotn clean. How are you getting re-exposed to it though? I assume you got rid of all the G in your house when you got clean. Are your friends using it around you or something, or did you just buy another bottle in a moment of weakness?
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It's just that I've got shit loads of it. I have like litres and litres of the stuff and I only have to take 1ml for a dose. I'm not throwing it away I have to learn self control.
 
Hmmm, I could never do that. Props to you if you can manage that sort of self control. Have you tried converting some to GHB? Most people seem to find it less addictive that way. There's always the option of leaving it in the hands of a trusted mate, then you'd at least think twice before jumping back into addictive usage.
 
TJF said:
Hmmm, I could never do that. Props to you if you can manage that sort of self control. Have you tried converting some to GHB? Most people seem to find it less addictive that way. There's always the option of leaving it in the hands of a trusted mate, then you'd at least think twice before jumping back into addictive usage.
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That's my plan. I'm going to taper than give it to a mate. I might look into converting it. Is it diffucult?
 
I'm currently taking one dose of GBL every day. The dose is 1.3ml and I take it around 3pm.
I don't feel the need to redose, and I'm beginning to see the end of my bottle anyway. I'm ok with that, I used to order it from the UK, so after it's finished it's finished.
 
Treacle said:
Not at all.
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I'm going to look into it. I bought a few vallies to help with the addiction but I can't get them till tuesday which is a cunt. Just going to try and cut down over the weekend but do enough to be happy refuse to waste a bank holiday.

I'm being a right silly cunt atm and taking meph while having a gbl addiction. Shit idea but I'm going to use in moderation.
 
I used to take GBL every day but I never really found it addictive. I would get so sick of it and leave the bottle sitting in the cupboard for weeks without the temptation to use it. Its banned here in the UK anyway.

Did you ever get insanely vivid amazing dreams when taking GBL?
 
I did the take-it-every-day thing for a few months. I didn't do it 24/7 and luckily didn't get addicted. However, I ended up in a "I want to stop but I seem to just keep dosing" situation, which was a bit shit.

I was surprised how hard it was to stop, even from just evenings on it. In the end I just had to go for it and get rid of the G in the house. I kept a little 15ml bottle for 'emergencies' (I dunno). Didn't last long -- I ran out 3 weeks ago and have been off it since.

I didn't suffer too badly really. I had some nasty craving moments, and trouble figuring out what to do with myself in the evenings, but generally ok.
Since this isn't really addiction/withdrawal, just my experience of booting a rather pleasant habit, I put most of my ramble in a blog post, if anyone is interested.
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/blog.php?b=2776

I am glad I stopped. I think I stopped just before the slippery slope.

Let's see, what else is there around here that I can buy in bulk and then screw up on? OOH NRG-1, what's dis?
 
angelsmoke said:
I did the take-it-every-day thing for a few months. I didn't do it 24/7 and luckily didn't get addicted. However, I ended up in a "I want to stop but I seem to just keep dosing" situation, which was a bit shit.

I was surprised how hard it was to stop, even from just evenings on it. In the end I just had to go for it and get rid of the G in the house. I kept a little 15ml bottle for 'emergencies' (I dunno). Didn't last long -- I ran out 3 weeks ago and have been off it since.

I didn't suffer too badly really. I had some nasty craving moments, and trouble figuring out what to do with myself in the evenings, but generally ok.
Since this isn't really addiction/withdrawal, just my experience of booting a rather pleasant habit, I put most of my ramble in a blog post, if anyone is interested.
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/blog.php?b=2776

I am glad I stopped. I think I stopped just before the slippery slope.

Let's see, what else is there around here that I can buy in bulk and then screw up on? OOH NRG-1, what's dis?
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It's a shame it's so moreish because it's a very useful chemical for comedowns, hangovers and general illness.
 
angelsmoke said:
I did the take-it-every-day thing for a few months. I didn't do it 24/7 and luckily didn't get addicted. However, I ended up in a "I want to stop but I seem to just keep dosing" situation, which was a bit shit.

I was surprised how hard it was to stop, even from just evenings on it. In the end I just had to go for it and get rid of the G in the house. I kept a little 15ml bottle for 'emergencies' (I dunno). Didn't last long -- I ran out 3 weeks ago and have been off it since.

I didn't suffer too badly really. I had some nasty craving moments, and trouble figuring out what to do with myself in the evenings, but generally ok.
Since this isn't really addiction/withdrawal, just my experience of booting a rather pleasant habit, I put most of my ramble in a blog post, if anyone is interested.
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/blog.php?b=2776

I am glad I stopped. I think I stopped just before the slippery slope.

Let's see, what else is there around here that I can buy in bulk and then screw up on? OOH NRG-1, what's dis?
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I love your honesty angel <3 your posting / blog is useful stuff and I'm there with you on the - let's be upfront, some of us with addictive personalities fuck up over our love of getting fucked up :D But let's not delude ourselves and pretend :)

Harm reduction at it's best %)

Big hugs to you <3 and my admiration xxx
 
Lazyscience said:
I used to take GBL every day but I never really found it addictive. I would get so sick of it and leave the bottle sitting in the cupboard for weeks without the temptation to use it. Its banned here in the UK anyway.

Did you ever get insanely vivid amazing dreams when taking GBL?
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For the first few weeks of taking it, I get amazingly vivid and realistic dreams. After waking up after having one of them it can be really surreal.
 
6 weeks and 2 days without currently.
And the alcohol consumption has ramped up and up. And other things.

Think its about time for another liver test. And get some liv 32 and milk thistle.
And how much do I want to find a supposed anti-depressant that actually works?

I had hoped that only GBL caused me to binge obscenely on tobacco, but opiates do too. Fuckery fuck, which cancer will get me first?
Need a bike and exercise and I'm supposed to be on another talking therapy list.
All I have been doing is replacement drugs. OK I tried one anti-depressant and felt no benefit, so others will have to be looked into.

I can't function verbally sober. And certain other things have gone out of control. But I haven't felt the need to touch GBL... but there are multiple reasons for that.
 
Had a couple of 'relapses' since giving up a few weeks ago. I've twice bought 100ml bottles, cained it then had a break. Previously I've always had benzos to take care of withdrawals, this time round I've none so today I've been slowly drinking vodka which seems to be keeping my head fairly straight.

I definitely need to take a long look at myself now and it's time to have a break from drugs (how many times do I say this 8) ) and rethink things. This time round with GBL is also the first occasion I've got into proper 24/7 use. I think because I had no benzos and also the rebounds were getting damn severe. In fact I think withdrawals were maybe coming into play very early because an hour or 2 after dosing I was starting to feel sick.

Previously with GBL I was an every night user but this has gone from every night > early morning happyness (great way to start the day - any hangover/ill feeling is gone for starters > dosing all the time to function normally. Once you get to this point there really is no point continuing, the 'high' becomes minimal to say the least. In fact frequent GBL use has turned me into an aggressive, inconsiderate arse hole. Once I'd had a few doses (my high goes after the first couple tbh) I wouldn't care about anything and just sat about monged and one night I had too much and seizured and needed medical help.

I'm off GBL 27.5 hours so hoping things don't get much worse. I've drunk about 200ml vodka today though. From Tuesday afternoon to Saturday 5pm I consumed about 70ml +, previously to that I'd been off it 9 days from a similar binge. Luck9ily yesterday I spilled the bottle and that put an end to my binging.

Such a great yet horrible drug.
 
^ Opiates and GBL are the two things that make me smoke like a chimney - even speed isn't as bad for chainsmoking as GBL in particular. Alcohol comes close though.

Hector said:
For the first few weeks of taking it, I get amazingly vivid and realistic dreams. After waking up after having one of them it can be really surreal.
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GBL gives me the most insanely vivid dreams. Last night I dreamt that people came through my window and under my door to bring me heroin. When I woke up I honestly had to think twice then thrice to convince myself it hadn't happened :D

On topic, I still take G daily and still have no problems with addiction or withdrawal. If I run out or just don't take any for whatever reason I get no cravings and no physical or mental problems whatsoever. I just wish I could share that with those of you who get it so bad on the stuff :\
 
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