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The GHB/GBL Addiction & Withdrawal Thread

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Thats an incredible GB withdrawl tale Cha1kie. Rough ride to say the least. Yes, I did read it all and yeah, I want to hear your other story.

How high was your average dose prior to this, How long had you been using it and I assume at that point you were dosing 24/7. Thats some serious hallucinations. BTW were you ever charged with anything?
 
Can someone from the UK PM me please. If I don't get some help I will possible die...

And don't say go to hospital, I have been 4 times or so in the last 2 weeks.

Thanks
 
whats up flippingtop?

if you think there is a possibility you might die, phone an ambulance immediately.
 
You're not going to die FT. You are going to have some wd's though. I know you've been 4 times already but if you have nothing to help with the wd's I'd say that you should perhaps head over
 
I haven't added up the time since I last dosed, but its more than 16 weeks ago.

Unbelievable that the main drug of my life for years turned bad on me.

I could easily get some more but the last time was 2 days of ok'ness and then 7 days of feeling awful, but unable to stop as I can only do withdrawals with a minimum of 48 hours without human contact, as it happened I made my withdrawal drug choices and spent 4 days locked in my flat.

The problem is that everything I used it for has now got a different substance for and nothing has really changed in my head. Although I really am glad to be able to sleep 8 - 12 hours a night without redosing, christ I hated that so much.

On Mirtazapine now and am wondering if it mixes positively/negatively or has zero effect. I always put down the absolute amazingness of it during the 2005 honeymoon period to the high level of venlafaxine I was on. Taken with anything else or nothing it was never as good. I really think that it was the only good thing about venlafaxine. I really do think that 225mg of snri mixed with the glutamate fuckage did something special. The same way that people have used it for coming down off pills, it definitely boosts serotonin for a short while or suchlike.
 
For anyone struggling with wd's I suggest taking 1200mg of gabapentin when you wake up then 10-20mg of valium to sleep. You'll be right as rain in no time with little no fuss, in my experience anyway.
 
my friend has developed hand tremors after taking GHB alot, he went to the doctors and was told he had developed parkinsons and may have it for the rest of his life now. I though this was bollocks because i've never heard of it before, but a week plus after stopping taking it and he still says he gets serious shakes (to the point where he cant even roll a cigarette) anyone know if this is really a long term thing?
 
If he really has Parkinson's then sadly yes - it is permanent and eventually fatal but there are treatments to help slow its progress and reduce symptoms. That is truly shit if he has and am very sorry to hear about your friend :(

I honestly can't see how it would be caused by GHB though. Has never even been suggested that it could cause anything like that (or anything beyond the acute effects and aftereffects at all, in fact). Parkinson's is rare in younger people but not unknown. Does he have relatives with the condition at all?

It could just be a temporary thing too, of course. Has he been officially tested and diagnosed with Parkinson's? It's something you either definitely have or definitely don't have.
 
It's a diagnosis of exclusion really, based on symptoms and signs and rejecting other possible causes - there is no definitive test as such unfortunately :( There are a whole bunch of things that cause Parkinsonism, including Parkinsons disease and drugs such as antipsychotics.. can't think why GBL would really but if his GP thinks he has it he should def see a neurologist, they should know! I hope yout mate is OK and it turns out to be only temporary, loooads of things can cause a tremor, many harmless, so fingers crossed :)

Edit, but yes you either have it or you don't, it's caused by a very specific thing in a very specific part of the brain. In fact it is all based around dopamine depletion in the basal ganglia soooo.. in theory maybe GBL could cause it? Need someone with better pharmacological knowledge than me!
 
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3 months of 24/7 for me now, and about 2 years of unregular use. When i stop, the withdrawals aren`t too bad, but i feel so bored, tired and irritable without it, so i keep taking it anyway. Dont really know what to do. I can function well on it, and no real problems except weight gain, but i feel, that without it im not the same person i used to be.

Cant`t get benzos, so my only option is slow tapering.
 
overdosing - ... what do people act like when they OD?? i've just witnessed someone who has, incohearant, moaning, nearing the stage of convulsing, chewing on tongue..well pushed out of mouth.. horrible to watch and calmed them down but i had not realised gb could do that?
 
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overdosing - ... what do people act like when they OD?? i've just witnessed someone who has, incohearant, moaning, nearing the stage of convulsing, chewing on tongue..well pushed out of mouth.. horrible to watch and calmed them down but i had not realised gb could do that?
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That's pretty much it but past that they can just stop breathing etc. How are they doing now? You should've probably have phoned an ambulance in future you never know how things are likely to progress.
 
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That's pretty much it but past that they can just stop breathing etc. How are they doing now? You should've probably have phoned an ambulance in future you never know how things are likely to progress.
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absolutely fine now.. grumpy as fuck with me..
i'm absolutely fuming with them now.. i need to some how explain to them how close they were... :(

they don't realise at all what they've done and everyone else just left them to it..
 
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That's pretty much it but past that they can just stop breathing etc. How are they doing now? You should've probably have phoned an ambulance in future you never know how things are likely to progress.
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when i came in i kept them awake by constantly keeping them up right and talking.. splashing face with water, cold fan.. but this is not happening again:!
 
Going to detox of gbl wish me luck, I hate being a ghbaholic, what works best for me was a librium taper, klonidine for high blood pressure and by the second day a hit or two of acid to take away it all.
 
Acid during G withdrawals?! I would not recommend that to anyone. Christ.
 
Well i went to the doctors and that doctor couldn't help me they wanted me to go to a program and i told them that I'm not going to do that i know what i need its worked before now just prescribe it and he said he couldn't because he didn't have enough experience in withdraws to do that. which is bullshit so i told him okay ill go to a doctor who will help me then. So i called my original doctor 2 hours away im waiting for a phone call back.
 
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