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The GHB/GBL Addiction & Withdrawal Thread

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For some strange reason my sleep pattern has somewhat normalised. I ordered G 500ml just before the ban and had no real usage pattern apart from the last couple of weeks using just for sleep purposes dosing 3 times during the night.I think i ran out middle of February with poor quality sleep since up to a couple of weeks ago.

I don't really understand the science behind all this GABA talk but could it be that certain brain chemistries have settled over time thus letting normal sleep patterns materialise?

My sleep has always been haywire on and off anyway for years,G helped in the short term.I hope this "normal" sleep continues unaided.
 
I'm free of addiction again and I'm going to stay this way. You don't realise how nice it is to function normally until you can't do it.
 
scrooloose said:
Yeah i can imagine it must have been hell. Thankfully i never became physically dependant although there was a very strong psychological pull.
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I have no desire to redose other than to stop the anxiety and the shakes. I don't actually have any urges to take it at all while addicted. If I'm at home it's not a problem at all but at work it can become taxing.
 
scrooloose said:
For some strange reason my sleep pattern has somewhat normalised. I ordered G 500ml just before the ban and had no real usage pattern apart from the last couple of weeks using just for sleep purposes dosing 3 times during the night.I think i ran out middle of February with poor quality sleep since up to a couple of weeks ago.

I don't really understand the science behind all this GABA talk but could it be that certain brain chemistries have settled over time thus letting normal sleep patterns materialise?

My sleep has always been haywire on and off anyway for years,G helped in the short term.I hope this "normal" sleep continues unaided.
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GBL isn't a good drug to use for sleep (then again no chemical solution generally is) unless its for comedowns.

If you have work/uni to get up early for, spending half the night awake on the rebound isn't really ideal to say the least and thats where redosing comes in and before you know it you're dependent.

My problem with GBL is that whenever I have it I want it first thing in the morning/day, I guess I'm a GBL-aholic :\. Simply because it would give me a positive kick start to the day. Though as I said the other day, this positive kick seems to be dwindling quicker and quicker with each period of use.

Luckily it's not available immediately and I have to actively order more online. So my addiction can be controlled by just buying small amounts for specified times.

I'm just glad, touch wood, that despite being quite a heavy drinker, I never have an urge to have that in the morning. Simply because alcohol gives less of an immediate positive effect. If GBL was available to buy at every nearby shop for cheap, I think I'd be screwed! My self control is rather shocking =D

I've been a heavy stimulant user for years, so this is probably where a lot of my GBL use comes about. I just want that quick, immediate elevation in mood. Despite GBL being a downer, it can have strong stimulant qualities.

It's a shame I don't get pretty much any strong positive effects from cannabis because that's a pretty safe drug that I could get regularly high on without too much negative effect.
 
65daysofstatic said:
GBL isn't a good drug to use for sleep (then again no chemical solution generally is) unless its for comedowns.

If you have work/uni to get up early for, spending half the night awake on the rebound isn't really ideal to say the least and thats where redosing comes in and before you know it you're dependent.

My problem with GBL is that whenever I have it I want it first thing in the morning/day, I guess I'm a GBL-aholic :\. Simply because it would give me a positive kick start to the day. Though as I said the other day, this positive kick seems to be dwindling quicker and quicker with each period of use.

Luckily it's not available immediately and I have to actively order more online. So my addiction can be controlled by just buying small amounts for specified times.

I'm just glad, touch wood, that despite being quite a heavy drinker, I never have an urge to have that in the morning. Simply because alcohol gives less of an immediate positive effect. If GBL was available to buy at every nearby shop for cheap, I think I'd be screwed! My self control is rather shocking =D

I've been a heavy stimulant user for years, so this is probably where a lot of my GBL use comes about. I just want that quick, immediate elevation in mood. Despite GBL being a downer, it can have strong stimulant qualities.

It's a shame I don't get pretty much any strong positive effects from cannabis because that's a pretty safe drug that I could get regularly high on without too much negative effect.
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I'm the same as you. I love having g for breakfast but it too quickly descends into breakfast,brunch,lunch,tea,supper and a midnight snack.
 
DS_ said:
I'm the same as you. I love having g for breakfast but it too quickly descends into breakfast,brunch,lunch,tea,supper and a midnight snack.
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Yeah I end up dosing pretty much every 2 hours till bed. The rebounds get quite bad during the day when a dose wears off and of course the line between rebounding and withdrawal is quite blurry.
 
Both you guys have suffered physical addiction with this stuff,it's frightening how quickly this sneaks up on you. My use was rather erratic but i could see a pattern developing.Suppose it was lucky i ran out when i did.If i ever decided to order again it would be small amounts and try to plan a more routined use. There would be a few days here and there when i wouldn't touch the stuff.There are certain things i have control over.

Like you 65 i have always been a chronic binge drinker and i too could never function with a hangover,until i discovered that magical hair of the dog.I also can't stand cannabis,it leaves me feeling edgy,paranoid,negative and depressed.I found G to be similar to alcohol,but with a euphoric happy twist.

G is too good to be true,you just CANNOT be unhappy on it,there is no hangover or comedown..................until addiction takes hold.When used responsibly it is one of the most positive,happy substances i have ever taken.

stay safe.
 
65daysofstatic said:
Has anyone else experienced fucking severe depression for a long while since stopping GBL? It won't go away this time
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I've a lingering urge for doing drugs during the evenings that's left unsatisfied since GBL but that's about it. Perhaps you need to look at your personal life maybe see the doctor?

I retox'd last night I had one night of dosing and I had withdrawals today. I coped with them fine but I nearly had a panic attack at one point. How annoying. I've knocked it on the head already though I feel much better already.
 
I've been reading up on everything I could find the last couple of weeks on GHB as I've been interested in it for some time now. It seems like this drug had been made for me and the thought of having it about scares me somewhat. I'm a bit of a problem drinker and and having beer in the house is hard enough. I need to buy it as I need it ffs or I'll do it all in. I'm not a 24/7 drinker by any means but I could see this turning into a problem because of the lack of hangovers and that. I'm glad I've gave this thread a good read to be honest now, some scary shit.
 
there have been cases where people use it for alcohol addiction, but to me it will just convert the alcohol addiction to a gbl addiction. Alcohol addiction is meant to be the hardest to get off from so if I were you I'd avoid developing another addiction..

Has anyone else noticed seizures (or muscle spasms?) when mixing GBL and mephedrone? I usually have around 1.8ml to start with and keep going with 1.3-1.5 every 60 minutes along with 150-200mg balls of mephedrone...

Ive experienced the seizures once, where I overdosed on GBL and I don't know how much I took...
 
I've combined meph and GBL loads of times, often making weekend sessions out of it with alcohol too. Both GBL and meph go hand in hand for me, they compliment each other well if done carefully.

As I said earlier in this topic, GBL + meph can be great but also horrible if you misjudge it. Doing meph on the rebound can cause really bad anxiety, sweats and head pain. And yes this combination has made me seizure at least once, I think. Also, on long sessions I can get shakes. It's a combination which dehydrates you really badly and if you drink too much water it will just go straight through your system. Isotonic sports drinks are probably a good idea to balance hydration levels and replenish lost electrolytes.

BTW - When I say I do them together, I still space them out a bit. They compliment each other well but leave a bit of a gap between doing each drug, don't just go for an all at once cheap 'speedball' type effect.
 
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Those twitches and jerks aren't actual seizures. It's the result of something trying to send you to sleep and you resisting it (either naturally, or with stims). Sort of like the hypnic jerks you get whilst falling asleep. An actual seizure would be dropping to the floor and spazzing about (too much G can mimic that, too, in my experience).
 
ack ack....took a 9 month break from the guice, and recently stumbled into some more. I woulda thought the magic would have returned after such a break but the results are mixed. I must say i am enjoying it, or else i wouldnt continue doing it? maybe.:| The first day was pretty alright, had the self control to stop early evening. Yesterday was the third day, last 2ml dose at 8:00 pm, didnt get to sleep until 4 am...can see and feel it creeping on me....and after going thru MANY bouts of 24/7 use and extreme withdrawal cant quite figure out a healthy pattern of use. Its all or nothing. Have the foresight now to stock up on phenibut/baclofen beforehand but still, I must say I feel the "deer in the headlights"....can see an auto bearing down on me, quickly, but it just feels too damn good to get outta the road..:\.....more testament to the fact that once yr a pickle u cant go back to being a cucumber......*shrugs*, poor gaba-b......:D
 
gbl to ghb

my friend told me how ridiculously easy to turn gbl into ghb. he heard it hearsay but he's interested in how to do it. anybody, does anybody body have the recipe. don't worry, he's not going to experiment but is just insanely curious if it's as east as people say. somebody, anybody, and fedback?
 
It's well easy. There's no discussion allowed about it on here, but Google is your friend. :)
 
I don't know if this info will be of any use to any body here, and will be dependant on a willing GP.

I was prescribed an anti psysotic that seems to dramatically decrease the efectiveness of G. it also has the added bonus of putting you to sleep and incresing appetite. Add in the effect of a standard anti-psyc and you have a pretty effective tapering, mind calming, sleep inducing drug.

I was prescribed chlorpromazine for other issues but this in conjunction wioth an anti depressant like mitrazapine (to chase away the post G blues) may be an effective withdrawal solution?
 
It would probably be better for serious withdrawals than just throwing handles of benzos and bottles of spirits at them. Anything that decreases dopamine levels will stop G being as effective and enjoyable, and would certainly help calm withdrawals and induce sleep.
 
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