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The GHB/GBL Addiction & Withdrawal Thread: mk. II

Probably getting close to the line with synth discussion - but yes, I did pH test. It's ph 7, like a perfect ph 7. Last time it was more like 8, but was a different GBL batch. Both times I had to use a lot more gbl than called for on the page I followed. This time I had a lot more to spare so kept adding until it went neutral.

The purple hands thing I get a bit from GBL too - never did until I'd been using it for about a year daily. My hands go cold and white when I'm not using, and purply when I am. Think it just fucks up my circulation. Maybe my circulation was already fucked.

I wish I'd not gone on that binge. I have 4 choices now: 1. Another night of no sleep, which I just can't face. 2. More gbl. 3. potentially dodgy ghb. 4. Alcohol. Gone with the ghb, dodgy or not it's not as nasty as the GBL.

I wanna stop this shit.


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Shambles -- thanks for your reply too. I'm sticking with the key worker stuff, although she seemed pissed off with me last week because I was mentally in a good place despite still being on the G. I guess I'm so used to justifications and being defensive that she was like "why are you here?". Which was fair.
 
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Only just seen this. I thought you meant actually touching the GHB made your skin purple! :D Yeah, it sounds more like your withdrawals give you that problem. It doesn't explain why it makes you feel ill, unless you're taking massive doses, though. All I can think is that your sodium hydroxide contains something else. I doubt it's impure GBL, to be fair. Hope you're getting on alright, I've been down this road a lot.
 
Think it made me feel ill straight away because I wasn't taking enough of it, so just went into slight withdrawal mode straight away. Could well be dodgy sodium hydroxide -- wasn't exactly medical grade (drain cleaner). I read around and there are places that sell purer sodium hydroxide, but there didn't seem to be much of a consumer market. Drain cleaner is probably full of all sorts of impurities. I was a bit "nnnngh" at first, but then I mixed my alloy cleaner and drain cleaner together and thought yeah. This is the high life.

I'm not sure how I'm getting on at the moment. I bought some pregabalin, which finally arrived on Tuesday. I didn't have any G on Tuesday or Wednesday. Slipped Thursday, but not had any more since. I've read good things about it on here, and it's effective in knocking the cravings on the head. Not easy to convince myself to take it when I'm really desperate for g, but I think I'm through all the w/d stuff I'm going to have.

So that's good, and I was feeling quite pleased with myself. Unfortunately my key worker has had a real meltdown about it -- saying I;d be better off staying on the G and trying to taper because pregabalin has so many side effects. Yes... not like a million other drugs, prescribed or not. I don't enjoy it, I don't want to be on it long term -- it's just helping me a lot at the moment.

She's got no reason to try to stop me from helping myself, so she obviously has some genuine concerns. But she herself has openly admitted that she knows very little about G -- so I'm a bit pissed off at her saying that I'd be better on on G. I should get a bunch of angry houseflies and stick them in her brain for a day and see how she gets on. Then sell her some pregabalin.

I'm supposed to call on Monday and make an appointment with their doctor. Presumably he'll just give me a big talking to about the risks. Odd that no one can shown any concern over g, benzos, other stuff.... enter pregabalin. I dunno. I'm sure if there was a big double blind placebo controlled study of GBL it'd not come back looking too rosy.
 
Depends what you mean by easy! It's certainly possible. It's harder than just placing an order for some RC though, but not much harder. You'll find out when you try, I suppose! You need a scanner.
 
Not sure if I want to try it or not at the moment.
The enjoyment that folk seem to get from it did pique my interest but then on the flipside the dependancy some people get and some of the bad points I've read about it have left me in two minds about trying it at the moment.
I'm certainly not going to rush into anything that I may later regret if I find out I like the substance too much for my own good.
 
Depends what your impulse control is like. There's a long time when I could have just gone "no, no dose tonight", but given the choice between housework and slobbing, and housework and slobbing while geebd.... no contest. I think it does take a while to start to cause problems, it did for me anyway. That's the positive side.

On the other hand, I wish I'd never laid eyes on it. How can I put it..... if you get on with it, it's good. Really good. Very few side effects. Just don't kid yourself that it's sustainable -- I did, despite having read this thread many times. I thought I was immune. Sounds so stupid, but it really didn't give me any trouble for a long time.

Problem is it's kinda hard to get except in large quantities. I miss the legal days when you could just buy 50ml.
 
I think that I'd like to try it as it's always nice to experience new drugs but I do think if I liked it too much then I'd no doubt end up using it as much as possible.
I'm just trying to find something to fill the hole left by heroin. Ideally I'd just like to go back to smoking spliffs but last time I tried I had a panic attack which surprised me as years before I had been a daily toker with no problems at all.
 
If you are going to try it, just don't buy a litre of the stuff. It's very easy to fall straight into 24/7 dosing, if you have loads, and it makes you feel great. I'd try and find someone who can send you 50mls, or so, then you know how it's going to affect you. Saying that, my first 125ml order (when legal) lasted me a good while, because I was hesitant to try it, and I was quite careful with it. I think my next order was 500mls, and that was the start of my problems... I think making the stuff illegal may have actually had the intended effect, especially in my case, which is a first. It's not something you find regular dealers selling, as most people have no idea what the stuff is.
 
What dose of baclofen are you on? I hope you do manage to kick it, it's a proper bastard.
 
Was doing 10mg every 2h, they work pretty fucking good, but sometimes i had to take another 10mg on the hour, just got rid of the glass pipette that served me for 2 years+, one baclofen left, havent slept more than 2h in 8 months so with these etizolam i real sleep would be very nice :P
 
maxalfie said:
I think that I'd like to try it as it's always nice to experience new drugs but I do think if I liked it too much then I'd no doubt end up using it as much as possible.
I'm just trying to find something to fill the hole left by heroin. Ideally I'd just like to go back to smoking spliffs but last time I tried I had a panic attack which surprised me as years before I had been a daily toker with no problems at all.
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thatll be down to tolerance i think. Its weird when i first started smoking hash as it was in my day, it gave me nothing but pure joy and fits of the giggles and music enhancement. All the negative shit came later, and started to outweigh the positives. I now take etiz before any noids, though i certainly wouldnt recommend you taking up benzos just to be able to enjoy a spliff.

Im the same with GHB i just fear id like it too much and end up using too much. It sounds dangerous to me too, ive heard of a number of O/Ds connected to this stuff.
 
Can't believe how long these wd's have gone on, 7 days on baclofen using g to sleep, only because was skint and doc wouldn't give anything to help with sleep
royal fail have been 2 days late with my etizolam so gonna go grab some nytol and maybe some chammloie tea ill take anything at this point
 
phenergan (promethazine) and diphenhydramine are very good sleep aids, and very easily available, be carefull you dont mix too many downers though, says me who was taking 2 phenergans, 2 diphens, and 12mg of etiz to get to sleep just a few days ago. I would sleep for 15 hours or something, it's gradually dawning on me that i need to reduce this night time regime. Ive reduced by 3mg of etiz in 3 days and that hasnt affected my sleep atall, except im sleeping about 12 hours now. Please note i have a very high etizolam tolerance so for the sake of HR these quantities could be dangerous for someone without tolerance. It says on the diphen jar that you should only take 1.
 
Slowly getting there MDB, had 4mg last night got about 4 hours sleep, (no benzo/eti tolerance) did another 4mg and got to 10am, woke up with the eti afterglow, (unlike last night where using cider/nytol cold/hot sweats at same time 8(
2 more solid nights sleep and i think im finally able to sleep with no aids, although i have some nytol left so hopefully they should help me get back into a pattern of a solid 8 hours :)

stopped the fags and coffee for the last two weeks so that has helped, i really can't imagine what would of happened if i didn't have those baclofen, my last wds i went 4-5 nights with no aids and it was terrible.

and yeah im well aware of your insane etizolam tolerance ;)
 
Well done, very well done. Yeah be like Ray Charles and do not return to it.

My natural sleep is completely fucked atm, my first daily dose of etiz has the greatest effect and all the redosing afterwards doesnt add much, so i need sleeping pills on top of etiz just to get to sleep atm. I need help from my dual diagnosis worker to help me sort this mess out, if i can work towards making my first dose later and later every day, then it need not be so big, and i can get this tolerance down and not need the sleeping pills.
 
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